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Iwobi is being played out of position ( both at Arsenal and for SE) as a wide player .... he is a #10. While he might have flashes on the wing he is still very inconsistent because it’s not a position that fits him the best ... if he can’t get that at Arsenal he needs to go somewhere else where his game can flourish at that position



:clap: :clap: I like the way our players positions evolve based on their performance. When Kanu's Juju man was making him score from every tight corner on the pitch for Arsenal he was a top striker. When he refused to pay his juju man and the goals dried out he became a support striker.

When Iwobi was scoring back and forth for Arsenal and Nigeria he was played in the right position, now he is played out of position.

Ideye was once a striker, now he is a holding forward at Malaga ...i.e holding for another striker to come and score. :thumbs: :thumbs:



Bushman :taunt: :taunt: the travails of Victor Moses should be a clear example of how good players struggle when used wrongly by coaches .... I remember both Keshi (bless his soul ) and Brendan Rogers both decided to play Vic Mo in the hole behind the striker .

The poor Lad seemed destined for the Qatari or Indian League ... but when Conte decided to put a round peg in a round hole albeit with more defensive duties look how far VM has been able to bounce back. Many non Nigerian Chelshyt fans are shocked at his ability.

So if I’m AI’s family and agent, the sooner they find a club and a decent coach willing to use him in the proper way the better ... his football life should begin and end at Arsenal.

He has far too much talent and ability to be playing the way he currently is



All he needs to do is follow the trail of the Ox. :winking:

I hope you were watching this past weekend


wetin Ox do wey una no gree us hia word again? Is he the new Coutinho, abi na Gerrard?

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Chief Ogbunigwe wrote:
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Iwobi is being played out of position ( both at Arsenal and for SE) as a wide player .... he is a #10. While he might have flashes on the wing he is still very inconsistent because it’s not a position that fits him the best ... if he can’t get that at Arsenal he needs to go somewhere else where his game can flourish at that position



:clap: :clap: I like the way our players positions evolve based on their performance. When Kanu's Juju man was making him score from every tight corner on the pitch for Arsenal he was a top striker. When he refused to pay his juju man and the goals dried out he became a support striker.

When Iwobi was scoring back and forth for Arsenal and Nigeria he was played in the right position, now he is played out of position.

Ideye was once a striker, now he is a holding forward at Malaga ...i.e holding for another striker to come and score. :thumbs: :thumbs:



Bushman :taunt: :taunt: the travails of Victor Moses should be a clear example of how good players struggle when used wrongly by coaches .... I remember both Keshi (bless his soul ) and Brendan Rogers both decided to play Vic Mo in the hole behind the striker .

The poor Lad seemed destined for the Qatari or Indian League ... but when Conte decided to put a round peg in a round hole albeit with more defensive duties look how far VM has been able to bounce back. Many non Nigerian Chelshyt fans are shocked at his ability.

So if I’m AI’s family and agent, the sooner they find a club and a decent coach willing to use him in the proper way the better ... his football life should begin and end at Arsenal.

He has far too much talent and ability to be playing the way he currently is



All he needs to do is follow the trail of the Ox. :winking:

I hope you were watching this past weekend


wetin Ox do wey una no gree us hia word again? Is he the new Coutinho, abi na Gerrard?

He's just playing better than any Arsenal midfielder, that's all. :D

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1naija wrote:
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Iwobi is being played out of position ( both at Arsenal and for SE) as a wide player .... he is a #10. While he might have flashes on the wing he is still very inconsistent because it’s not a position that fits him the best ... if he can’t get that at Arsenal he needs to go somewhere else where his game can flourish at that position

:clap: :clap: I like the way our players positions evolve based on their performance. When Kanu's Juju man was making him score from every tight corner on the pitch for Arsenal he was a top striker. When he refused to pay his juju man and the goals dried out he became a support striker.

When Iwobi was scoring back and forth for Arsenal and Nigeria he was played in the right position, now he is played out of position.

Ideye was once a striker, now he is a holding forward at Malaga ...i.e holding for another striker to come and score. :thumbs: :thumbs:

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anikulapo wrote:
Bushman :taunt: :taunt: the travails of Victor Moses should be a clear example of how good players struggle when used wrongly by coaches .... I remember both Keshi (bless his soul ) and Brendan Rogers both decided to play Vic Mo in the hole behind the striker .

The poor Lad seemed destined for the Qatari or Indian League ...but when Conte decided to put a round peg in a round hole albeit with more defensive duties look how far VM has been able to bounce back. Many non Nigerian Chelshyt fans are shocked at his ability.

So if I’m AI’s family and agent, the sooner they find a club and a decent coach willing to use him in the proper way the better ... his football life should begin and end at Arsenal.

He has far too much talent and ability to be playing the way he currently is

...and which basement-tier league was he headed to when he was “playing” (to use the term liberally) out wide at Stoke City and West Ham?

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The YeyeMan wrote:
Chief Ogbunigwe wrote:
txj wrote:
anikulapo wrote:
1naija wrote:
anikulapo wrote:
Iwobi is being played out of position ( both at Arsenal and for SE) as a wide player .... he is a #10. While he might have flashes on the wing he is still very inconsistent because it’s not a position that fits him the best ... if he can’t get that at Arsenal he needs to go somewhere else where his game can flourish at that position



:clap: :clap: I like the way our players positions evolve based on their performance. When Kanu's Juju man was making him score from every tight corner on the pitch for Arsenal he was a top striker. When he refused to pay his juju man and the goals dried out he became a support striker.

When Iwobi was scoring back and forth for Arsenal and Nigeria he was played in the right position, now he is played out of position.

Ideye was once a striker, now he is a holding forward at Malaga ...i.e holding for another striker to come and score. :thumbs: :thumbs:



Bushman :taunt: :taunt: the travails of Victor Moses should be a clear example of how good players struggle when used wrongly by coaches .... I remember both Keshi (bless his soul ) and Brendan Rogers both decided to play Vic Mo in the hole behind the striker .

The poor Lad seemed destined for the Qatari or Indian League ... but when Conte decided to put a round peg in a round hole albeit with more defensive duties look how far VM has been able to bounce back. Many non Nigerian Chelshyt fans are shocked at his ability.

So if I’m AI’s family and agent, the sooner they find a club and a decent coach willing to use him in the proper way the better ... his football life should begin and end at Arsenal.

He has far too much talent and ability to be playing the way he currently is



All he needs to do is follow the trail of the Ox. :winking:

I hope you were watching this past weekend


wetin Ox do wey una no gree us hia word again? Is he the new Coutinho, abi na Gerrard?

He's just playing better than any Arsenal midfielder, that's all. :D


that's not hard to do. Me self can play better than Arsenal midfielders like Xhaka, Ramsey, etc. That's a low bar.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 7:31 am 
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Gotti wrote:
1naija wrote:
anikulapo wrote:
Iwobi is being played out of position ( both at Arsenal and for SE) as a wide player .... he is a #10. While he might have flashes on the wing he is still very inconsistent because it’s not a position that fits him the best ... if he can’t get that at Arsenal he needs to go somewhere else where his game can flourish at that position

:clap: :clap: I like the way our players positions evolve based on their performance. When Kanu's Juju man was making him score from every tight corner on the pitch for Arsenal he was a top striker. When he refused to pay his juju man and the goals dried out he became a support striker.

When Iwobi was scoring back and forth for Arsenal and Nigeria he was played in the right position, now he is played out of position.

Ideye was once a striker, now he is a holding forward at Malaga ...i.e holding for another striker to come and score. :thumbs: :thumbs:

:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:57 am 
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Alex is not being played out of position, he plays as an AML/AMC/AMR same position he plays for Nigeria....same as Ozil and Mikhi. the whole team are struggling from cech to Auba.

Things will improve whether Arsene stays for one more season or Low comes in after the world cup.

You will see that for the SE Alex will struggle initially but once, the weight of the season is off his shoulders, he will be a different player....

Everyone at Arsenal right now is low on confidence and it shows even in training.......

the boy is only in his early 20's and the partying rubbish earlier in the season affected him badly. I am sure he has learnt his lesson and will watch who he hangs around with if he wants to go far.

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Gotti wrote:
anikulapo wrote:
Bushman :taunt: :taunt: the travails of Victor Moses should be a clear example of how good players struggle when used wrongly by coaches .... I remember both Keshi (bless his soul ) and Brendan Rogers both decided to play Vic Mo in the hole behind the striker .

The poor Lad seemed destined for the Qatari or Indian League ...but when Conte decided to put a round peg in a round hole albeit with more defensive duties look how far VM has been able to bounce back. Many non Nigerian Chelshyt fans are shocked at his ability.

So if I’m AI’s family and agent, the sooner they find a club and a decent coach willing to use him in the proper way the better ... his football life should begin and end at Arsenal.

He has far too much talent and ability to be playing the way he currently is

...and which basement-tier league was he headed to when he was “playing” (to use the term liberally) out wide at Stoke City and West Ham?



Maybe if you watched more and stopped looking at stats you would have seen how many games he actually played and how well he performed when “healthy” there but nah keep arguing with yourself :roll:

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anikulapo wrote:
Gotti wrote:
anikulapo wrote:
Bushman :taunt: :taunt: the travails of Victor Moses should be a clear example of how good players struggle when used wrongly by coaches .... I remember both Keshi (bless his soul ) and Brendan Rogers both decided to play Vic Mo in the hole behind the striker .

The poor Lad seemed destined for the Qatari or Indian League ...but when Conte decided to put a round peg in a round hole albeit with more defensive duties look how far VM has been able to bounce back. Many non Nigerian Chelshyt fans are shocked at his ability.

So if I’m AI’s family and agent, the sooner they find a club and a decent coach willing to use him in the proper way the better ... his football life should begin and end at Arsenal.

He has far too much talent and ability to be playing the way he currently is

...and which basement-tier league was he headed to when he was “playing” (to use the term liberally) out wide at Stoke City and West Ham?

Maybe if you watched more and stopped looking at stats you would have seen how many games he actually played and how well he performed when “healthy” there but nah keep arguing with yourself :roll:

And maybe if you manage to extricate your head from your arse-nal...
You will learn that he played as many games at Stoke as at Liverpool and even more at West Ham.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:19 am 
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Taken from the Guardian's round up of the weekend's games...

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1) Iwobi missing something vital in his make up

It always feels unfair to single out a young player, not least one who seems with each performance these days to become a one-man Arsenal social media event, a living banter-meme. Just check out Alex Iwobi on Twitter the next time Arsenal are playing – and hope he never makes the mistake of searching his own name.

But watching him against Watford it was tempting to wonder about stalled progress, and a comfort zone at the wrong moment in his career. He has been more productive since Christmas, has made an effort to make more decisive forward runs.

But he remains a strange footballer, a creative midfielder who seems to be always shuttling in vaguely the right area, but who somehow ends up doing very little actual creating. Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain has shown the fruits of moving on to develop. Iwobi still seems unsure of his place in the pecking order, too mannered to have any real sharp edges, and in danger of becoming a poster boy for late-Wenger drift. Barney Ronay


https://www.theguardian.com/football/bl ... end-action

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:28 am 
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The YeyeMan wrote:
Taken from the Guardian's round up of the weekend's games...

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1) Iwobi missing something vital in his make up

It always feels unfair to single out a young player, not least one who seems with each performance these days to become a one-man Arsenal social media event, a living banter-meme. Just check out Alex Iwobi on Twitter the next time Arsenal are playing – and hope he never makes the mistake of searching his own name.

But watching him against Watford it was tempting to wonder about stalled progress, and a comfort zone at the wrong moment in his career. He has been more productive since Christmas, has made an effort to make more decisive forward runs.

But he remains a strange footballer, a creative midfielder who seems to be always shuttling in vaguely the right area, but who somehow ends up doing very little actual creating. Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain has shown the fruits of moving on to develop. Iwobi still seems unsure of his place in the pecking order, too mannered to have any real sharp edges, and in danger of becoming a poster boy for late-Wenger drift. Barney Ronay


https://www.theguardian.com/football/bl ... end-action


The stupid Arsenal fans that should be supportive, following the stupid talking heads to villify the guy, dontworry he would come through this patch like Lingard

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Iwobi needs to be bold, trust his instincts and go for it.

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Kabalega wrote:
Iwobi needs to be bold, trust his instincts and go for it.



:agree:

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:45 am 
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1naija wrote:
Iwobi was very good and played just as good as any Arsenal player on the field in that game. He was involved with the only goal Arsenal scored and never lost balls so I am not sure what else he is supposed to do given how the entire has been playing.

On the contrary, I think Iwobi has actually played his way to a regular starter in the SE like Victor Moses and Mikel, as opposed to when he was coming off the bench. As far as I am concerned the only confirmed starters in the SE today are Mikel, Ndidi, Victor Moses, Iwobi, Balogun and Ekong!


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