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Dammy wrote:There are so many closed minds on CE, unwilling to re-evaluate a situation even when it is obvious that a reassessment is needed.
Some can call me an agent without even evaluating my comments but at least they cannot call me his townsman like they do to Obong and Imeh.
I am a concerned Nigerian and the SE belongs to Nigeria and not Mikel as some are suggesting. It is a team for the best Nigerian players and not any individual player's monopoly.
The ship has not sailed and we have almost 3 months and 3 friendlies to assess Enyeama. A goalkeeping coach can be sent to work with him just like was done for Uzoho. Enyeama's exclusion from the first team at Lille was not a sporting or technical decision. The motive was to remove the high earners and reduce the wage bill, a move that has backfired if the recent fans protests is anything to go by.
Enyeama is not hibernating but has started playing games for the reserves in the 4th division. So it is incorrect to compare him with Rufai in 2008. Rufai in 1994 was not getting any playing time in Holland with Go Ahead Eagles of Deventer but he was recalled after a public clamour and he picked the starting shirt ahead of Wilfred Agbonavbare, who was one of the best goalkeepers in Spain and Alloy Agu. The situation we have today is precarious and a stitch in time saves nine. I Don talk my own!
Closed minds? It's your inability to swallow the bitter pill that I the issue here. Plus the need to follow due process.
It seems
1. We have no criteria for selecting our players. One player seem to be bigger than the team.
2. A player that resigned publicly but has not publicly showed his willingness to return is nothing more than a waste of time discourse.
3. If Enyeama does come back, how long will his return be? Don't we still have to face the prospect of finding a goalkeeper? Isn't it better to bite the bullet now than postponing the inevitable?
4. What is the mood in camp going to be like or that us of no concern?

People always view that absent player as the saviour until they get into the team.
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First time watching this video, Oliseh actually explained why Musa was selected as captain. Enyeama had stated he was going to retire before 2018. Undeniable is the cosy relationship Oliseh had with him.

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Damunk wrote:
oloye wrote:Rather than spamming the cyber space with these we need Enyama articles, why not send a letter to Enyeama to come out of retirement. What am are missing here? Did the man announce he is no longer retired and the management of the team refused to extend an invitation? The last time i checked , Enyeama not being in the team had nothing to do with wether we on this forum want him or nothing....the ball was passed to his side for months now and the team management have been waiting for him to send it back.

I am sorry Dammy my buddy ,this is a waste of time flogging an arguement that makes no addition to solving the issue.

The decision to come back os Enyama's to make, whether he would be acceptes or not , whetherr it is welcome or not by folks here have no bearing on what os on the ground.

The first question that demands an answer is...has Enyama said he is ready to come back? If the answer is no,then please those who want him back should invest quality time gathering their thoughts in a letter and send it to Vincent....it makes more sense, adds more value and a right step towards finding a perceived solution than jaw jawing on the cyberspace.
Oloye, the fans' debate has been long and emotional and even tho we nor get any other work :D , we can still all be forgiven for missing some crucial bits of information.
Plus, unless we are 'Inner Caucusians', we do not know what is going on behind the scenes.

Enyeama is no longer in 'retirement' from the SE if you read between the lines.
All those his twitter images and quotes are sending coded messages to us the fans.
And I can bet my mortgage he has a regular, direct line to Rohr. :idea:
He does not need to send any coded messages to the fans, the decision is between him and the management of the team to make. There is no need for the drama, the last thing we need right now is a stupid charade that will mark my word ...will blow up in our face spectacularly.

Personally i hate dramas and i hate even more drama queens! They all belong to the dustbin in my humble opinion. As far as i am concerned there is no official announcement that he has unretired unless well maybe his foot soldiers are trying to do some pr work to test the mood of the fans...an error if i may say. Such only draw an unneccessary attention and distraction that would become a sideshow....we do not need that nonsense. Of he wants to come back,make the damn announcement, wait for an invitation and join others in camp. I hate stupid charade and drama!
Oloye completely agree with you, but does Enyeama even need to dignify all this silliness with a response?? He's said more than enough in his own words.
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Enyeama is not coming back guys. No need to debate this matter further. Can we please move on.
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oloye wrote:Rather than spamming the cyber space with these we need Enyama articles, why not send a letter to Enyeama to come out of retirement. What am are missing here? Did the man announce he is no longer retired and the management of the team refused to extend an invitation? The last time i checked , Enyeama not being in the team had nothing to do with wether we on this forum want him or nothing....the ball was passed to his side for months now and the team management have been waiting for him to send it back.

I am sorry Dammy my buddy ,this is a waste of time flogging an arguement that makes no addition to solving the issue.

The decision to come back os Enyama's to make, whether he would be acceptes or not , whetherr it is welcome or not by folks here have no bearing on what os on the ground.

The first question that demands an answer is...has Enyama said he is ready to come back? If the answer is no,then please those who want him back should invest quality time gathering their thoughts in a letter and send it to Vincent....it makes more sense, adds more value and a right step towards finding a perceived solution than jaw jawing on the cyberspace.

Oloye, Enyeama already agreed to return since last year....

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/08/25/ex ... -to-mikel/

And these are Rohr's observations and comments...

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/09/05/en ... clarifies/

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/09/11/en ... ohr-warns/

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/10/24/ro ... as-return/

He played for Lille Reserves as recently as last Saturday and is fit and available...
I believe if he is invited, he will honor the call. He can't invite himself, so the ball is not in his court.All the postulations and non-neutral information being given by people who don't even know Enyeama or the team are just opinions, not reality. Enyeama is personally disciplined and a professional. You don't last as long as he has in football at the highest level if you are not personally and professionally at the right place. The coaches apparently decided to pitch the tent with Uzoho and see how he pans out in the friendlies. While the young man has great potential, the experiment has shown he has shortcomings that cannot be glossed over with barely two months to the World Cup. A fit and experienced goalkeeper is a sine qua non for any team(as a defender, you know the value of one behind you). Personally, I don't feel the World Cup is where we should "try" a goalkeeper when we have a player of Enyeama's calibre that is ready and available. The next camp in May should have Uzoho, Ezenwa, Enyeama, Akpeyi and Ajiboye in camp. We should work them out and select the best three to Russia.
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What I hate the most about this saga is Enyeama's coded social media behavior that is causing all this talk. He shows his little videos and put his little sub texts on it knowing fully well that the onus is on him if he wants to return. Talk about a drama queen! Unnecessary theatrics and frankly immature behavior.

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truetalk wrote:My response to Damunk on the same issue. Making the GK position stronger should not be all about Enyeama.

No SE fan with a decent knowledge of the game will think that we are all set with the GK position.

The problem with you and others championing for Enyeama is that, that is all you are doing. You are not suggesting ways to improve the GK position.

A lot of people have said (with valid reasons) that having Enyeama in camp will make the team worse. I was around the team a lot during qualifiers and I can tell you that this is Mikel's team. The signal the coach is giving is that the pecking order is the Coach, Mikel & the troops. It is interesting that the former and Vice Captains have recently started on the bench, or might not make the team. Bringing Enyeama back might upset that fabric. Check out Mikel's body language when Rohr's was asked about this after Cameroon.

Secondly, Vince said he could not sit on the bench with the SE, as it would cost him his job with his club. The club job is mostly gone. Is he now willing to seat on the bench if he is deemed to be the 2nd or 3rd best available keeper?

Third, there are options that I believe are better than some of the guys in camp. Why the focus on Vince and not these guys. Pre SA match, I mentioned David Nwolokor, Femi Thomas and Francis Uzoho as options that were better than the 3 Keepers in camp for that game (Akpeyi, Alampasu & Ezenwa). Do you guys not know about these keepers. Nobody is talking about Philip Ejimadu who is about to be snatched by the US, right under our noses. How come it is all about Vince to you guys?

BTW, I doubt than Vince will emerge among the top 3 if the pool is opened up to 6 of these, based on current form, without even considering the baggage he brings.

So, there is a clear distinction between calling for Enyeama's return and asking for an improvement of the SE GK position with a view to making the team better.

You guys don't seem to get that.
This Enyeama (EA) discussion has been going on here for awhile and to date, I am surprised it is still going on. I just don't understand why people are stuck with their positions even with evidence and data to show otherwise. Thus for me, I am done with this issue unless I am FORCED to came back to it
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Ugbowo wrote:What I hate the most about this saga is Enyeama's coded social media behavior that is causing all this talk. He shows his little videos and put his little sub texts on it knowing fully well that the onus is on him if he wants to return. Talk about a drama queen! Unnecessary theatrics and frankly immature behavior.

KEEP THIS GUY AWAY FROM THE SE!!!! I beg you.
You own your social media pages and are free to exercise your unabridged rights of communication and expression so we should not even contemplate restricting anyone's rights on their private pages. Enyeama has clearly been in communication with Rohr and certain NFF officials and such evidence abounds. He doesn't need sub-texts to keep communicating. He is no drama Queen. Like every Nigerian player from Kafanchan to Vietnam he has a RIGHT to aspire to play for the Super Eagles. If deemed good enough, he should be invited. His fans clamouring for his return also have a right to do so. And, the onus is not on him. Like every other player, he must first be invited. If he is invited and he starts being theatrical by giving conditions or declining, then you can rightly describe him as a drama "King" (I'm leery of using "Queen", even if grammatically correct).
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I'm beginning to warm to the idea of Enyeama being given a run-out. I still doubt that a keeper who hasn't played for a year can offer anything, but at this point, I'm willing to see Enyeama in a friendly.
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oloye wrote:Rather than spamming the cyber space with these we need Enyama articles, why not send a letter to Enyeama to come out of retirement. What am are missing here? Did the man announce he is no longer retired and the management of the team refused to extend an invitation? The last time i checked , Enyeama not being in the team had nothing to do with wether we on this forum want him or nothing....the ball was passed to his side for months now and the team management have been waiting for him to send it back.

I am sorry Dammy my buddy ,this is a waste of time flogging an arguement that makes no addition to solving the issue.

The decision to come back os Enyama's to make, whether he would be acceptes or not , whetherr it is welcome or not by folks here have no bearing on what os on the ground.

The first question that demands an answer is...has Enyama said he is ready to come back? If the answer is no,then please those who want him back should invest quality time gathering their thoughts in a letter and send it to Vincent....it makes more sense, adds more value and a right step towards finding a perceived solution than jaw jawing on the cyberspace.

Oloye, Enyeama already agreed to return since last year....

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/08/25/ex ... -to-mikel/

And these are Rohr's observations and comments...

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/09/05/en ... clarifies/

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/09/11/en ... ohr-warns/

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/10/24/ro ... as-return/

He played for Lille Reserves as recently as last Saturday and is fit and available...
I believe if he is invited, he will honor the call. He can't invite himself, so the ball is not in his court.All the postulations and non-neutral information being given by people who don't even know Enyeama or the team are just opinions, not reality. Enyeama is personally disciplined and a professional. You don't last as long as he has in football at the highest level if you are not personally and professionally at the right place. The coaches apparently decided to pitch the tent with Uzoho and see how he pans out in the friendlies. While the young man has great potential, the experiment has shown he has shortcomings that cannot be glossed over with barely two months to the World Cup. A fit and experienced goalkeeper is a sine qua non for any team(as a defender, you know the value of one behind you). Personally, I don't feel the World Cup is where we should "try" a goalkeeper when we have a player of Enyeama's calibre that is ready and available. The next camp in May should have Uzoho, Ezenwa, Enyeama, Akpeyi and Ajiboye in camp. We should work them out and select the best three to Russia.
Chief did Enyeama retired via "owngoal Nigeria"? Even on his tweeter account he couldn't say he's ready and available if Nigeria needs him? Since when has own goal become the official NFF news channel? Wetin happen to NFF tweeter and Instagram account? Abeg this thing is becoming like too many agent interest. No player, not even Enyeama is bigger Tha the team. Let us go and lose all 3 games and come home. It is better than this over celebrating a player like he's God. :curse:
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Ayo Akinfe wrote: Akpeyi and Ezenwa are not among our top six goalkeepers in Nigetia. They have no business in the Eagles camp!
Chief Ayo; if that is the case, why are they still being invited by our coach? Does our coach not know of them and their capabilities? Just asking
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Odas wrote:
Ayo Akinfe wrote: Akpeyi and Ezenwa are not among our top six goalkeepers in Nigetia. They have no business in the Eagles camp!
Chief Ayo; if that is the case, why are they still being invited by our coach? Does our coach not know of them and their capabilities? Just asking

This is one of my beefs with Rohr. He can be too conservative. He gets too attached to his players and is reluctant to let them go even when they are total liabilities. For instance, can he really justify the continued inviting of Ahmed Musa and Uwua Echiejile to camp?
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pajimoh wrote:
Dammy wrote:I have opened a new thread to discuss our goalkeeping position regarding the possibility of recalling Vincent Enyeama.
On CE when forum members take a position, other options or superior argument/logic is closed. This could be due to ego or stubbornness or both. We have a goalkeeping crisis and despite Francis Uzoho 's potentials, it is obvious he is not ready to be Number 1 at the WC. Successive coaches at his club recognize this fact and that is why he is playing in the 2nd team rather than the main team. I doubt if there is any of the 36 teams going to the WC will go with a rookie goalkeeper. It is obvious that other teams in our group already know we have an inexperienced keeper and would be looking at capitalizing on his naivety. The pressure of 180 million Nigerians should not be put on Uzoho's young shoulders. He should be allowed to develop without being rushed as a disastrous WC could derail his promising career just like it did to Ogbeche in 2002.
In the best interest of Nigeria, I believe it is time to recall Enyeama. If he was an outfield player, I wouldn't advocate for his recall as he is playing for Lille reserves in the 4th tier. However, as a goalkeeper, playing regularly will bring back his sharpness and he would be match fit. Both Enyeama and Uzoho are playing for their club's reserves but experience gives Enyeama the edge. Cameroon's goalkeeper, Ondoa, keeps for Seville's 2nd team, Sevilla Athletico in the Spanish 2nd tier and despite not even playing regularly for that team won the 2017 CAN with Cameroon.
Desperate times call for desperate measures and I think it is time to recall Enyeama and avoid the repeat of 1998, when Peter Rufai was called up in the last minute.
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papilo wrote:
Dammy wrote:I have opened a new thread to discuss our goalkeeping position regarding the possibility of recalling Vincent Enyeama.
On CE when forum members take a position, other options or superior argument/logic is closed. This could be due to ego or stubbornness or both. We have a goalkeeping crisis and despite Francis Uzoho 's potentials, it is obvious he is not ready to be Number 1 at the WC. Successive coaches at his club recognize this fact and that is why he is playing in the 2nd team rather than the main team. I doubt if there is any of the 36 teams going to the WC will go with a rookie goalkeeper. It is obvious that other teams in our group already know we have an inexperienced keeper and would be looking at capitalizing on his naivety. The pressure of 180 million Nigerians should not be put on Uzoho's young shoulders. He should be allowed to develop without being rushed as a disastrous WC could derail his promising career just like it did to Ogbeche in 2002.
In the best interest of Nigeria, I believe it is time to recall Enyeama. If he was an outfield player, I wouldn't advocate for his recall as he is playing for Lille reserves in the 4th tier. However, as a goalkeeper, playing regularly will bring back his sharpness and he would be match fit. Both Enyeama and Uzoho are playing for their club's reserves but experience gives Enyeama the edge. Cameroon's goalkeeper, Ondoa, keeps for Seville's 2nd team, Sevilla Athletico in the Spanish 2nd tier and despite not even playing regularly for that team won the 2017 CAN with Cameroon.
Desperate times call for desperate measures and I think it is time to recall Enyeama and avoid the repeat of 1998, when Peter Rufai was called up in the last minute.
Way too risky to call him up now. The best time to assess him would have been the Poland and Serbia games. Unfortunately he was not invited. That ship has sailed now. I agree Uzoho isn't ready to be first choice at the world cup but the truth is he is better that those we have at the moment.
... going by what you said, it means we have no goalkeeper, right?
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Cellular wrote:
smartbrother wrote:I don’t understand the thinking in dropping akpeyi and ezenwa for a 19 yr old who plays division 3 football
Why take such a gamble at this stage
Even if he overcomes his nerves and cuts out the calamitous errors he doesn’t seem particularly good in the air or capable of commanding his area
As for enywama no thanks
A cone is better than Akpeyi. Playing with a field player in goal is better than Akpeyi.

Ezenwa is a good shot stopper but a horrible goalie. He lacks fundamentals of the position.

As for Uzoho, the potential is there. But his poor command of his area and his indecisiveness worries me. Didn't go to the game but couldn't hear him barking orders to this backline or organizing them properly. I think he belongs on the team but not as a starter.

Of the four Keepers I have seen thus far, Ajiboye is actually the best of the lot.
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Ayo Akinfe wrote:
Odas wrote:
Ayo Akinfe wrote: Akpeyi and Ezenwa are not among our top six goalkeepers in Nigetia. They have no business in the Eagles camp!
Chief Ayo; if that is the case, why are they still being invited by our coach? Does our coach not know of them and their capabilities? Just asking

This is one of my beefs with Rohr. He can be too conservative. He gets too attached to his players and is reluctant to let them go even when they are total liabilities. For instance, can he really justify the continued inviting of Ahmed Musa and Uwua Echiejile to camp?
Totally unlikely :tic:

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Fully concur.
Ugbowo wrote:What I hate the most about this saga is Enyeama's coded social media behavior that is causing all this talk. He shows his little videos and put his little sub texts on it knowing fully well that the onus is on him if he wants to return. Talk about a drama queen! Unnecessary theatrics and frankly immature behavior.

KEEP THIS GUY AWAY FROM THE SE!!!! I beg you.
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I see you're back to using "Owngoal" publications as your 'source of truth', in spite of their obvious lack of credibility.
Obong wrote:
oloye wrote:Rather than spamming the cyber space with these we need Enyama articles, why not send a letter to Enyeama to come out of retirement. What am are missing here? Did the man announce he is no longer retired and the management of the team refused to extend an invitation? The last time i checked , Enyeama not being in the team had nothing to do with wether we on this forum want him or nothing....the ball was passed to his side for months now and the team management have been waiting for him to send it back.

I am sorry Dammy my buddy ,this is a waste of time flogging an arguement that makes no addition to solving the issue.

The decision to come back os Enyama's to make, whether he would be acceptes or not , whetherr it is welcome or not by folks here have no bearing on what os on the ground.

The first question that demands an answer is...has Enyama said he is ready to come back? If the answer is no,then please those who want him back should invest quality time gathering their thoughts in a letter and send it to Vincent....it makes more sense, adds more value and a right step towards finding a perceived solution than jaw jawing on the cyberspace.

Oloye, Enyeama already agreed to return since last year....

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/08/25/ex ... -to-mikel/

And these are Rohr's observations and comments...

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/09/05/en ... clarifies/

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/09/11/en ... ohr-warns/

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/10/24/ro ... as-return/

He played for Lille Reserves as recently as last Saturday and is fit and available...
I believe if he is invited, he will honor the call. He can't invite himself, so the ball is not in his court.All the postulations and non-neutral information being given by people who don't even know Enyeama or the team are just opinions, not reality. Enyeama is personally disciplined and a professional. You don't last as long as he has in football at the highest level if you are not personally and professionally at the right place. The coaches apparently decided to pitch the tent with Uzoho and see how he pans out in the friendlies. While the young man has great potential, the experiment has shown he has shortcomings that cannot be glossed over with barely two months to the World Cup. A fit and experienced goalkeeper is a sine qua non for any team(as a defender, you know the value of one behind you). Personally, I don't feel the World Cup is where we should "try" a goalkeeper when we have a player of Enyeama's calibre that is ready and available. The next camp in May should have Uzoho, Ezenwa, Enyeama, Akpeyi and Ajiboye in camp. We should work them out and select the best three to Russia.
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Obong wrote:
oloye wrote:Rather than spamming the cyber space with these we need Enyama articles, why not send a letter to Enyeama to come out of retirement. What am are missing here? Did the man announce he is no longer retired and the management of the team refused to extend an invitation? The last time i checked , Enyeama not being in the team had nothing to do with wether we on this forum want him or nothing....the ball was passed to his side for months now and the team management have been waiting for him to send it back.

I am sorry Dammy my buddy ,this is a waste of time flogging an arguement that makes no addition to solving the issue.

The decision to come back os Enyama's to make, whether he would be acceptes or not , whetherr it is welcome or not by folks here have no bearing on what os on the ground.

The first question that demands an answer is...has Enyama said he is ready to come back? If the answer is no,then please those who want him back should invest quality time gathering their thoughts in a letter and send it to Vincent....it makes more sense, adds more value and a right step towards finding a perceived solution than jaw jawing on the cyberspace.

Oloye, Enyeama already agreed to return since last year....

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/08/25/ex ... -to-mikel/

And these are Rohr's observations and comments...

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/09/05/en ... clarifies/

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/09/11/en ... ohr-warns/

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/10/24/ro ... as-return/

He played for Lille Reserves as recently as last Saturday and is fit and available...
I believe if he is invited, he will honor the call. He can't invite himself, so the ball is not in his court.All the postulations and non-neutral information being given by people who don't even know Enyeama or the team are just opinions, not reality. Enyeama is personally disciplined and a professional. You don't last as long as he has in football at the highest level if you are not personally and professionally at the right place. The coaches apparently decided to pitch the tent with Uzoho and see how he pans out in the friendlies. While the young man has great potential, the experiment has shown he has shortcomings that cannot be glossed over with barely two months to the World Cup. A fit and experienced goalkeeper is a sine qua non for any team(as a defender, you know the value of one behind you). Personally, I don't feel the World Cup is where we should "try" a goalkeeper when we have a player of Enyeama's calibre that is ready and available. The next camp in May should have Uzoho, Ezenwa, Enyeama, Akpeyi and Ajiboye in camp. We should work them out and select the best three to Russia.
Chief did Enyeama retired via "owngoal Nigeria"? Even on his tweeter account he couldn't say he's ready and available if Nigeria needs him? Since when has own goal become the official NFF news channel? Wetin happen to NFF tweeter and Instagram account? Abeg this thing is becoming like too many agent interest. No player, not even Enyeama is bigger Tha the team. Let us go and lose all 3 games and come home. It is better than this over celebrating a player like he's God. :curse:
pajimoh,

Owngoal have shown that they are the most relevant Nigerian football site when it comes to Nigerian players and the Super Eagles. They were giving us live updates from camp in Poland and most of their exclusives (like the invitation of Joel Obi and the secondment of the goalkeeper coach to train Uzoho in Spain have been proved correct). You and I know that the NFF website and their Twitter page is an apology. I would rather get information from Cybereagles forum. I never said Enyeama or any player is bigger than the team. Not even the current ogas(Mikel and Moses) are bigger. Rohr is the undisputed leader assisted by Mikel. And that is how it ought to be.
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Otitokoro wrote:I see you're back to using "Owngoal" publications as your 'source of truth', in spite of their obvious lack of credibility.
Obong wrote:
oloye wrote:Rather than spamming the cyber space with these we need Enyama articles, why not send a letter to Enyeama to come out of retirement. What am are missing here? Did the man announce he is no longer retired and the management of the team refused to extend an invitation? The last time i checked , Enyeama not being in the team had nothing to do with wether we on this forum want him or nothing....the ball was passed to his side for months now and the team management have been waiting for him to send it back.

I am sorry Dammy my buddy ,this is a waste of time flogging an arguement that makes no addition to solving the issue.

The decision to come back os Enyama's to make, whether he would be acceptes or not , whetherr it is welcome or not by folks here have no bearing on what os on the ground.

The first question that demands an answer is...has Enyama said he is ready to come back? If the answer is no,then please those who want him back should invest quality time gathering their thoughts in a letter and send it to Vincent....it makes more sense, adds more value and a right step towards finding a perceived solution than jaw jawing on the cyberspace.

Oloye, Enyeama already agreed to return since last year....

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/08/25/ex ... -to-mikel/

And these are Rohr's observations and comments...

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/09/05/en ... clarifies/

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/09/11/en ... ohr-warns/

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/10/24/ro ... as-return/

He played for Lille Reserves as recently as last Saturday and is fit and available...
I believe if he is invited, he will honor the call. He can't invite himself, so the ball is not in his court.All the postulations and non-neutral information being given by people who don't even know Enyeama or the team are just opinions, not reality. Enyeama is personally disciplined and a professional. You don't last as long as he has in football at the highest level if you are not personally and professionally at the right place. The coaches apparently decided to pitch the tent with Uzoho and see how he pans out in the friendlies. While the young man has great potential, the experiment has shown he has shortcomings that cannot be glossed over with barely two months to the World Cup. A fit and experienced goalkeeper is a sine qua non for any team(as a defender, you know the value of one behind you). Personally, I don't feel the World Cup is where we should "try" a goalkeeper when we have a player of Enyeama's calibre that is ready and available. The next camp in May should have Uzoho, Ezenwa, Enyeama, Akpeyi and Ajiboye in camp. We should work them out and select the best three to Russia.
Like them or hate them, Owngoal have put their money where their mouth is. They sent two reporters to Poland and London that sent us live training and camp reports. While others twiddled their thumbs and copied and pasted stories from their offices in Lagos, they were on ground at where it matters most. They have been the most enterprising football news organization in terms of Nigerian players transfer moves and team performances. Currently, there is no close second.
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So why do you keep 'communicating' on his behalf?
Let me help rephrase then: he is an 'attention grabbing drama Queen'.
Obong wrote: Enyeama has clearly been in communication with Rohr and certain NFF officials and such evidence abounds. He doesn't need sub-texts to keep communicating. He is no drama Queen.
True.
Fact is, he already aspired and had his chance - for well over a decade he was an integral part of the team. He decided he had enough and opted to leave the stage for others. Its you folk that can't seem to wrap your heads and emotions around that decision.
Obong wrote: Like every Nigerian player from Kafanchan to Vietnam he has a RIGHT to aspire to play for the Super Eagles. If deemed good enough, he should be invited. His fans clamouring for his return also have a right to do so.
Its puzzling that people have convinently forgotten that Enyeama, as a nobody at the time, was given a chance by Onigbinde in 2002 (himself and Austin Ejide). That opportunity helped Nigeria have a stable goalkeeping platform for many years. Its time to do the same again (with Uzoho & Ezenwa), yet people would rather have Old Man Enyeama back.
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Ugbowo wrote:What I hate the most about this saga is Enyeama's coded social media behavior that is causing all this talk. He shows his little videos and put his little sub texts on it knowing fully well that the onus is on him if he wants to return. Talk about a drama queen! Unnecessary theatrics and frankly immature behavior.

KEEP THIS GUY AWAY FROM THE SE!!!! I beg you.
I don't know how these things works, but what happens if Enyeama 'crashes' the camp? That is, though without an invitation, calls and talk to the coach before coming - at his expense? Will he NOT be welcomed?
And the BIBLE says: The race is NOT for the swift, neither is the battle for the strong nor ... but time and chance makes them all.
Ecclesiastes 1:18: For in much wisdom is much grief and he that increases knowledge increases sorrow.
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call him up! lets see who does better in camp, why they fear?
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