Mo Salah is better than Hazard

deanotito · Post by **deanotito** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:12 pm

I feel like a broken record, but I don tell some of una for months that Mo Salah is the best EPL player I've seen in many many years

Bigpokey24 · Post by **Bigpokey24** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:00 pm

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Bigpokey24 · Post by **Bigpokey24** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:14 pm

yall forget Mo-Salah is just 24 years old

danfo driver · Post by **danfo driver** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:16 pm

Bell wrote:
1) If Salah is not a striker, what is he?

At Liverpool, Roma, Fiorentina, Basel and Egypt, he has played as a right forward/winger.

His last club game vs. Man City

http://www.skysports.com/football/liver ... ams/388721

His last national team game vs. Portugal

http://www.skysports.com/football/portu ... ams/386985

Salah can also play as an 8, if necessary, but he rarely plays there.

2) Ok, I'm not aware of his Italian exploits, so let's see what happens next season (I'm not saying he'll be bad; just saying let's not judge him on basis of this season only. Certainly, football exists outside England)

Sir, you are the one judging him based on this season only. Thats why you are ignoring "his Italian exploits, of which you are "not aware." I am judging based on his years in Italy and this one in England.

3) Salah's assist history: very few players are in the lineup because they have great assist numbers.

I mentioned his assists because you claimed that without his goals, he wouldnt be playing "top flight football." So, are we to also take away his assists? And are we using this same criteria for every single player or only Salah?

zee · Post by **zee** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:18 pm

deanotito wrote:I feel like a broken record, but I don tell some of una for months that Mo Salah is the best EPL player I've seen in many many years

He is a freaking 'normal' good player.......that looks great 'cos he plays for the Dean.

danfo driver · Post by **danfo driver** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:19 pm

Ugbowo wrote:
Bell wrote:
Cally wrote:I'm not a fan of Hazard's but to me, he's a better all-round player than Salah. I've watched hazard do things, this season, that I never expected he'd be able to do. Having said that, Mo Salah has also done some amazing things at break-neck speed that have been astounding.
AGREED, HAZARD IS SOCCER'S KOBE BRYANT

How much better he'd be if he'd just make pass when the opportunity is there instead of beating his man, stopping, looking for another person to beat, before making an ineffective pass. Meanwhile, the team mate is standing around not sure when or if Hazard would pass. How come no one has told I'm that?
Bell
Kobe Bryant???? What are u on today???

Kobe and Hazard? Are you serious? Kobe has a mentality that Hazard can only dream of. Kobe wanted to and strived to be the best. Worked so hard at it and has 5 championships to show for it. Part of his "ball hogging" was because he believed he was going to KILL you and he did a lot of times. Hazard does his almost because he thinks its fun.

Bell you have surprised me in this thread sha.

Thats what everyone is misunderstanding in this thread. Hazard lacks the mental toughness and killer instinct to be successful. There is a reason he never has to good seasons in a row.

kajifu · Post by **kajifu** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:21 pm

Ugbowo wrote:
Bell wrote:
Cally wrote:I'm not a fan of Hazard's but to me, he's a better all-round player than Salah. I've watched hazard do things, this season, that I never expected he'd be able to do. Having said that, Mo Salah has also done some amazing things at break-neck speed that have been astounding.
AGREED, HAZARD IS SOCCER'S KOBE BRYANT

How much better he'd be if he'd just make pass when the opportunity is there instead of beating his man, stopping, looking for another person to beat, before making an ineffective pass. Meanwhile, the team mate is standing around not sure when or if Hazard would pass. How come no one has told I'm that?
Bell
Kobe Bryant???? What are u on today???

Kobe and Hazard? Are you serious? Kobe has a mentality that Hazard can only dream of. Kobe wanted to and strived to be the best. Worked so hard at it and has 5 championships to show for it. Part of his "ball hogging" was because he believed he was going to KILL you and he did a lot of times. Hazard does his almost because he thinks its fun.

Bell you have surprised me in this thread sha.

No mind Bell,Kobe that is compare with the best in the game and someone is comparing with Hazard that is not best in his club every season.
Some post you ignore it.

Tobi17 · Post by **Tobi17** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:46 pm

No denying the fact that Mo Salah is a terrific player, but there's an extra cherry to the top which is playing under the Dean... Not sure if it's the Klopp effect, but any player that plays under his management always turns out to be good.. Ox Chamberlain's talent was mostly underutilized I'm Arsenal, now see him turning up for Liverpool under the Dean, even Milner looks the part under Klopp.

lionga · Post by **lionga** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:20 pm

Hazard and Kobe

? Come on now.

Every now and then in the past few years, after a good spell Hazard's name is mentioned in the same sentence as Messi and Ronaldo. Don't know why, because, for my money, he's not and has never been on the same level as Neymar.

paj · Post by **paj** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:35 pm

Salah is a winger/forward in an attacking team...Hazard is a 10 in a defensive team.....nuff said

Pa

danfo driver · Post by **danfo driver** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:02 pm

paj wrote:Salah is a winger/forward in an attacking team...Hazard is a 10 in a defensive team.....nuff said

Pa

Pa Jeun Ko Ku, You are making silly excuses. Although that is what we have come to expect from you. Hazard has played Left Forward for Chelsea, since he came there. In match fixer’s 343, he plays as a left forward.

Post by **YUJAM** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:28 pm

The guy is having a season that's out of this world. But let's remember this season is an aberration compared to others. If he does this again next season, then we'll know he's arrived

Bell · Post by **Bell** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:48 pm

Ugbowo wrote:
Bell wrote:
Cally wrote:I'm not a fan of Hazard's but to me, he's a better all-round player than Salah. I've watched hazard do things, this season, that I never expected he'd be able to do. Having said that, Mo Salah has also done some amazing things at break-neck speed that have been astounding.
AGREED, HAZARD IS SOCCER'S KOBE BRYANT

How much better he'd be if he'd just make pass when the opportunity is there instead of beating his man, stopping, looking for another person to beat, before making an ineffective pass. Meanwhile, the team mate is standing around not sure when or if Hazard would pass. How come no one has told I'm that?
Bell
Kobe Bryant???? What are u on today???

Kobe and Hazard? Are you serious? Kobe has a mentality that Hazard can only dream of. Kobe wanted to and strived to be the best. Worked so hard at it and has 5 championships to show for it. Part of his "ball hogging" was because he believed he was going to KILL you and he did a lot of times. Hazard does his almost because he thinks its fun.

Bell you have surprised me in this thread sha.

REST EASY, ugbowo, HAZARD & KOBE ARE SIMILAR IN THAT...

...they'd hold the ball when a pass is called for. For all his talent and greatness, Kobe could have been much better if he'd simply pass the ball. He probably would have played longer, received less physical pounding and his teams more successful. Kobe was the man who wouldn't pass the ball even when guarded by three players, leaving open team mates unsure what to do. The irony is that if he'd simply pass the ball, he'd probably get it back and face an easier scoring opportunity. But no, he'd want the whole world to know he could overcome all three. That's why his shooting percentage is not as good as it could have been. I think Hazard has the same traits except that he's not as good a footballer as Kobe was a basketballer.
Bell

Bell · Post by **Bell** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:51 pm

YUJAM wrote:The guy is having a season that's out of this world. But let's remember this season is an aberration compared to others. If he does this again next season, then we'll know he's arrived

WHICH IS...

...all I've been saying.
Bell

Bell · Post by **Bell** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:01 am

danfo driver wrote:
Bell wrote:
1) If Salah is not a striker, what is he?
At Liverpool, Roma, Fiorentina, Basel and Egypt, he has played as a right forward/winger.

His last club game vs. Man City

http://www.skysports.com/football/liver ... ams/388721

His last national team game vs. Portugal

http://www.skysports.com/football/portu ... ams/386985

Salah can also play as an 8, if necessary, but he rarely plays there.

2) Ok, I'm not aware of his Italian exploits, so let's see what happens next season (I'm not saying he'll be bad; just saying let's not judge him on basis of this season only. Certainly, football exists outside England)
Sir, you are the one judging him based on this season only. Thats why you are ignoring "his Italian exploits, of which you are "not aware." I am judging based on his years in Italy and this one in England.

3) Salah's assist history: very few players are in the lineup because they have great assist numbers.
I mentioned his assists because you claimed that without his goals, he wouldnt be playing "top flight football." So, are we to also take away his assists? And are we using this same criteria for every single player or only Salah?

SALAH MAY BE LISTED AS A RIGHT FWD/WINGER (whatever that is these days)...

...but in attacking situations he's to be found mainly in the box (6 or 18), not on the touchline. Very much like other well known strikers. And his team counts on him for scoring. That to me is a striker. If he's playing as a winger, then there's something wrong with that arrangement.
Bell

The YeyeMan · Post by **The YeyeMan** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:09 am

Bell, he's not a striker.

danfo driver · Post by **danfo driver** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:15 am

YUJAM wrote:The guy is having a season that's out of this world. But let's remember this season is an aberration compared to others. If he does this again next season, then we'll know he's arrived

The comparison is Salah vs. Hazard.

I dont think anyone is saying "Salah has arrived"

danfo driver · Post by **danfo driver** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:18 am

Bell wrote:
SALAH MAY BE LISTED AS A RIGHT FWD/WINGER (whatever that is these days)...

...but in attacking situations he's to be found mainly in the box (6 or 18), not on the touchline. Very much like other well known strikers. And his team counts on him for scoring. That to me is a striker. If he's playing as a winger, then there's something wrong with that arrangement.
Bell

I absolutely disagree with you. But thats fine, as we do not have to agree on this. I believe it is obvious to everyone where Salah plays and how he plays.

Tbite · Post by **Tbite** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:53 am

danfo driver wrote:
YUJAM wrote:The guy is having a season that's out of this world. But let's remember this season is an aberration compared to others. If he does this again next season, then we'll know he's arrived
The comparison is Salah vs. Hazard.

I dont think anyone is saying "Salah has arrived"

The point being that Hazard has had more than one standout season.

Bell · Post by **Bell** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:55 am

The YeyeMan wrote:Bell, he's not a striker.

OK. I'LL TAKE YOUR WORD FOR IT, SO NOW...

...does Liverpool play with a striker and who's he?
Bell

danfo driver · Post by **danfo driver** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:28 am

Tbite wrote:
danfo driver wrote:
YUJAM wrote:The guy is having a season that's out of this world. But let's remember this season is an aberration compared to others. If he does this again next season, then we'll know he's arrived
The comparison is Salah vs. Hazard.

I dont think anyone is saying "Salah has arrived"
The point being that Hazard has had more than one standout season.

uhmm do you know how many stand out seasons Salah has had?

I realize you only watch EPL, but you should go ask Serie A watchers about Salah. Like I said, football does not start and end in England. let Hazard go to Italy and perform! After all, Salah has performed in Italy for multiple years and came to England and performed better than Hazard HAS EVER PERFORMED IN HIS ENTIRE LIFE. FACT!

danfo driver · Post by **danfo driver** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:30 am

Bell wrote:
The YeyeMan wrote:Bell, he's not a striker.
OK. I'LL TAKE YOUR WORD FOR IT, SO NOW...

...does Liverpool play with a striker and who's he?
Bell

Sir, You have got to be trolling.

airwolex · Post by **airwolex** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:12 am

Never been that sold on Hazard myself but he has been elite for a long time, winning best player in France and the EPL. If Mo Salah can keep this level up for the next few years then we can talk. One thing though, this has to be one of the best ever seasons by a player I have ever seen in the EPL.

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