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Well Nigerians know Obi is talented but also know he is injury prone,the Ghana man got lucky that's all!kawawa wrote:http://global.espn.com/football/match?gameId=491357
Came in at 57 min, replaced by Ghanaman at 85 min. Anyone watch the game?
Know what happened?
not sure if Obi can play 2 full 90mins in a tournament - lets not just risk we already know is the inevitableYemiBrazil wrote:Commentary
85' - Substitution, Torino. Afriyie Acquah replaces Joel Obi because of an injury.
Then our eyes clear and we start blaming the coach for not paying attention to statistics leading to waste of a valuable slot if he gets injured after 2 matches? Good player but is he that vital to how we play? That's the big questionMYMIND wrote:If he is fit at the time of team selection, he will make the squad. Simple.
How is it a waste of a slot if he gave us 2 good matches? How many matches do you think we will play at the WC? You know sey only 3 are guaranteed abi?YemiBrazil wrote:Then our eyes clear and we start blaming the coach for not paying attention to statistics leading to waste of a valuable slot if he gets injured after 2 matches? Good player but is he that vital to how we play? That's the big questionMYMIND wrote:If he is fit at the time of team selection, he will make the squad. Simple.
Not true. Was good against Polandjohn12 wrote:The guy was absolutely horrible in the past 2 games for Nigeria and if he intends on going to World Cup he needs to step up his game. If ogu had performed that bad in our last 2 games that would had been the end of OGU on CE
Completely agreeohenhen1 wrote:He was average. Got driven off the ball to easily, didn't contribute much going forward. Was okay in his defensive duties. I actually think Mikel Agu looked better in past games for Nigeria minus that one bad game against Cameroon. Joel Obi is not an automatic selection.
3 guaranteed with possibilities of 4, 5, 6, 7. The waste may not be glaring initially but possibilities may turn to reality and then you look stupid for being myopic.maceo4 wrote:How is it a waste of a slot if he gave us 2 good matches? How many matches do you think we will play at the WC? You know sey only 3 are guaranteed abi?YemiBrazil wrote:Then our eyes clear and we start blaming the coach for not paying attention to statistics leading to waste of a valuable slot if he gets injured after 2 matches? Good player but is he that vital to how we play? That's the big questionMYMIND wrote:If he is fit at the time of team selection, he will make the squad. Simple.
Bros, what are you on about? You really want to compare Joel Obi's injury history to Uwa, Taiwo and Iroha's???nzeogwu wrote:Some of us are funny, sha. In 1994 we took Iroha to the Mundial, he got hurt in the first match. No one said he was plastic in 1998. In 2010, again, we lost Taiwo and Uwa Echeijele, both left backs in the Argentina game, nobody said they were plastic. Some had the nerve to request Uwa in 2014 only to see him replaced by Juwon again after the first match. I think we should be more concerned about phony left backs than a terrier like Joel.
Bros, at the level of our team, its a pretty safe bet that we are not playing more than 4 games if that. To me if we can get 2 good games out of Obi that would be a good return. Also, his injuries of late have been less serious than in the past and require less time out, if he's out for a week after the first game he would still be available for us in the tourney. Also, he might not even be a starter anyways, but we need players of his quality to push the starters for a spot.YemiBrazil wrote:3 guaranteed with possibilities of 4, 5, 6, 7. The waste may not be glaring initially but possibilities may turn to reality and then you look stupid for being myopic.maceo4 wrote:How is it a waste of a slot if he gave us 2 good matches? How many matches do you think we will play at the WC? You know sey only 3 are guaranteed abi?YemiBrazil wrote:Then our eyes clear and we start blaming the coach for not paying attention to statistics leading to waste of a valuable slot if he gets injured after 2 matches? Good player but is he that vital to how we play? That's the big questionMYMIND wrote:If he is fit at the time of team selection, he will make the squad. Simple.
nzeogwu wrote:Some of us are funny, sha. In 1994 we took Iroha to the Mundial, he got hurt in the first match. No one said he was plastic in 1998. In 2010, again, we lost Taiwo and Uwa Echeijele, both left backs in the Argentina game, nobody said they were plastic. Some had the nerve to request Uwa in 2014 only to see him replaced by Juwon again after the first match. I think we should be more concerned about phony left backs than a terrier like Joel.
Iroha's injury history was dire. He got injured after the first game in Algiers'90 CAN and did not play for the rest of the tournament. He missed CAN'92 due to injury and also played just the opening match against Bulgaria in the 1994 WC before succumbing to injury. The only tournament he played injury free was CAN 94.deanotito wrote:Bros, what are you on about? You really want to compare Joel Obi's injury history to Uwa, Taiwo and Iroha's???nzeogwu wrote:Some of us are funny, sha. In 1994 we took Iroha to the Mundial, he got hurt in the first match. No one said he was plastic in 1998. In 2010, again, we lost Taiwo and Uwa Echeijele, both left backs in the Argentina game, nobody said they were plastic. Some had the nerve to request Uwa in 2014 only to see him replaced by Juwon again after the first match. I think we should be more concerned about phony left backs than a terrier like Joel.
Common! I'm all for taking him to the WC, but I've said it before...his injury frequency is not normal for a hardworking, preparation-minded player. The only explanation is that his body type is not suited for his chosen profession. Yes, that's actually a thing.
When I was growing up as a teen, I noticed that my brother and I both suffered from a lot of cramps while playing soccer. Our diets were as good or better than those of our peers....but give us a day or 2 of inaction, and we'd pull up on the field clutching our hammies, and calves. My friends didn't even know what a cramp was, let alone understand how it felt. But there was something about my brother and I's physiology that made us susceptible to them, even at what was a low level of kickabout soccer.
Joel's injuries are not normal for a player of his caliber. If you told me he never trained, and didn't eat well, I would understand why he was always getting hurt. But if that were the case, he would have been fired from top flight football. He is obviously professional enough, and takes his career seriously. His body just doesn't cooperate.