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Re: Southgate drops his best playmaker Jack Wilshire. Hmmm

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 2:13 pm
by King Futcha
Ayo Akinfe wrote:
King Futcha wrote:
Ayo Akinfe wrote:
Goldleaf wrote:Pope
Butland
Pickford

Alexander-Arnold
Cahill
Macguire
Stones
Trippier
Dier
Rose
Young
Jones
Walker

Delph
Dele Alli
Sterling
Loftus-Cheek
Linguard
Henderson

Kane
Vardy
Welbeck
Rashford

England Manager Gareth Soughgate's 23 for Russia. The 3 keepers only have 9 caps between them all. This is very unlike England. Soughgate obviously believes that chemistry matters more than experience judging by England's victories at U17 and U20. The days of established names representing England for years and years seems to have come to an end.

Dele Alli will end up being his playmaker.
Lingard will start over dele...

with that said, this team will be home before the post cards.

Jessie Lingard is not a playmaker!
well he played that so-called role for them in their last match.

https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/12451 ... land-Italy

do you ever know what you're talking about?

Re: Southgate drops his best playmaker Jack Wilshire. Hmmm

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 3:43 pm
by danfo driver
Ayo Akinfe wrote:
King Futcha wrote:
Ayo Akinfe wrote:
Goldleaf wrote:Pope
Butland
Pickford

Alexander-Arnold
Cahill
Macguire
Stones
Trippier
Dier
Rose
Young
Jones
Walker

Delph
Dele Alli
Sterling
Loftus-Cheek
Linguard
Henderson

Kane
Vardy
Welbeck
Rashford

England Manager Gareth Soughgate's 23 for Russia. The 3 keepers only have 9 caps between them all. This is very unlike England. Soughgate obviously believes that chemistry matters more than experience judging by England's victories at U17 and U20. The days of established names representing England for years and years seems to have come to an end.

Dele Alli will end up being his playmaker.
Lingard will start over dele...

with that said, this team will be home before the post cards.

Jessie Lingard is not a playmaker!

Same way you said Osaze is not a striker, you want to start another prolem for yourself.

Lingard plays as a number 10 for Man United. I will agree with you if you say Lingard is a horrible playmaker. Because he is. But to say he is not one is inaccurate

Re: Southgate drops his best playmaker Jack Wilshire. Hmmm

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 4:05 pm
by felarey
So happy for Young, an embodiment of what can happen when you put your head down, work hard and listen to your coach. It`s the reason why successive coaches have kept him at Man Utd, even when he struggled and the entire stadium booed him. He just goes back, works hard and give all on the pitch hoping it`s good enough and it is! Feel Smalling is a miss though, but since this is a 23 man squad, perhaps he just didn`t make it and the coaches looked elsewhere. When selected, he usually starts and played a lot of games this season. Even gave indestructible Bailly one or two things to think about.

Re: Southgate drops his best playmaker Jack Wilshire. Hmmm

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 5:34 pm
by Coach
The idea of Jack Wilshere being a playmaker extraordinaire is as flawed as an open plan kitchen with freshly laid laminate. The suggestion of said Jack being country’s best, calls into question the reliability of any further contributions from the poster. The one question Southgate has to answer wrt the midfield, was Jonjo Shelvey. A question he chose to avoid, hedging his bets on the points already bagged.

Re: Southgate drops his best playmaker Jack Wilshire. Hmmm

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 5:40 pm
by Coach
@Fela, Bertrand should’ve gotten the nod ahead of Young. Yes, Ashley’s reinvented himself as a right-footed left back, a bootleg Dennis Irwin perhaps, but he’s benefited from association more than anything else. Bertrand has been consistent and sound and is certainly the better of the two. If both were in plying their trade at the foot of the table, it wouldn’t have been close. Good luck to Young, if Southgate has any sense, Delph will be his deputy for Rose and Young will just be old.

Re: Southgate drops his best playmaker Jack Wilshire. Hmmm

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 7:16 am
by Cristao II
I dont expect much from England. Forget the 'easiness' of the group

Re: Southgate drops his best playmaker Jack Wilshire. Hmmm

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 7:23 am
by danfo driver
Coach wrote:@Fela, Bertrand should’ve gotten the nod ahead of Young. Yes, Ashley’s reinvented himself as a right-footed left back, a bootleg Dennis Irwin perhaps, but he’s benefited from association more than anything else. Bertrand has been consistent and sound and is certainly the better of the two. If both were in plying their trade at the foot of the table, it wouldn’t have been close. Good luck to Young, if Southgate has any sense, Delph will be his deputy for Rose and Young will just be old.
The Betrand who fought relegation? Did you watch Bertrand and Southhampton last season? Or you are just remembering the Betrand from last season? :oops:

Re: Southgate drops his best playmaker Jack Wilshire. Hmmm

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 7:34 am
by Cristao II
danfo driver wrote:
Coach wrote:@Fela, Bertrand should’ve gotten the nod ahead of Young. Yes, Ashley’s reinvented himself as a right-footed left back, a bootleg Dennis Irwin perhaps, but he’s benefited from association more than anything else. Bertrand has been consistent and sound and is certainly the better of the two. If both were in plying their trade at the foot of the table, it wouldn’t have been close. Good luck to Young, if Southgate has any sense, Delph will be his deputy for Rose and Young will just be old.
The Betrand who fought relegation? Did you watch Bertrand and Southhampton last season? Or you are just remembering the Betrand from last season? :oops:
Even Danny Rose IMHO. I believe people are selecting him based on his past performance pre-his video outburst/injury. Rose has not been up to his usual top performance pre-2017. I am hoping it is just injury but Rose has seriously regressed.

Re: Southgate drops his best playmaker Jack Wilshire. Hmmm

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 6:12 pm
by Ayo Akinfe
King Futcha wrote:
Ayo Akinfe wrote:
King Futcha wrote:
Ayo Akinfe wrote:
Goldleaf wrote:Pope
Butland
Pickford

Alexander-Arnold
Cahill
Macguire
Stones
Trippier
Dier
Rose
Young
Jones
Walker

Delph
Dele Alli
Sterling
Loftus-Cheek
Linguard
Henderson

Kane
Vardy
Welbeck
Rashford

England Manager Gareth Soughgate's 23 for Russia. The 3 keepers only have 9 caps between them all. This is very unlike England. Soughgate obviously believes that chemistry matters more than experience judging by England's victories at U17 and U20. The days of established names representing England for years and years seems to have come to an end.

Dele Alli will end up being his playmaker.
Lingard will start over dele...

with that said, this team will be home before the post cards.

Jessie Lingard is not a playmaker!
well he played that so-called role for them in their last match.

https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/12451 ... land-Italy

do you ever know what you're talking about?
He and Sterling played as wide men in that match!

Re: Southgate drops his best playmaker Jack Wilshire. Hmmm

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 6:46 pm
by Spicyee
Goldleaf wrote:Pope
Butland
Pickford

Alexander-Arnold
Cahill
Macguire
Stones
Trippier
Dier
Rose
Young
Jones
Walker

Delph
Dele Alli
Sterling
Loftus-Cheek
Linguard
Henderson

Kane
Vardy
Welbeck
Rashford

England Manager Gareth Soughgate's 23 for Russia. The 3 keepers only have 9 caps between them all. This is very unlike England. Soughgate obviously believes that chemistry matters more than experience judging by England's victories at U17 and U20. The days of established names representing England for years and years seems to have come to an end.
Loftus-Cheek over Ross Barkley? :oops:

Re: Southgate drops his best playmaker Jack Wilshire. Hmmm

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 7:14 pm
by Coach
Again, appointment by association. Ashley Young is no left back and if called upon, will be exposed. Knockaert’s issuing of salad should’ve been enough of a wake up call for Southgate, instead he indulged the mirage. Hopefully Rose will need to sit out a few, there are few sights more spectacular than seeing a good ol’ fashioned roasting. There’s something all the more proper when the recipient is old.

Re: Southgate drops his best playmaker Jack Wilshire. Hmmm

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 7:26 pm
by kajifu
How did Danny Welbeck make it?Is it that they must select at worst 1 player from each top club?

Re: Southgate drops his best playmaker Jack Wilshire. Hmmm

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 7:59 pm
by danfo driver
Spicyee wrote:
Goldleaf wrote:Pope
Butland
Pickford

Alexander-Arnold
Cahill
Macguire
Stones
Trippier
Dier
Rose
Young
Jones
Walker

Delph
Dele Alli
Sterling
Loftus-Cheek
Linguard
Henderson

Kane
Vardy
Welbeck
Rashford

England Manager Gareth Soughgate's 23 for Russia. The 3 keepers only have 9 caps between them all. This is very unlike England. Soughgate obviously believes that chemistry matters more than experience judging by England's victories at U17 and U20. The days of established names representing England for years and years seems to have come to an end.
Loftus-Cheek over Ross Barkley? :oops:
what did Ross Barkeley do this season?

Re: Southgate drops his best playmaker Jack Wilshire. Hmmm

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 10:13 pm
by Coach
Ross Barkley’s only accomplishment this season was a low fade with a level two on top.

Re: Southgate drops his best playmaker Jack Wilshire. Hmmm

Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 2:29 am
by Chief Ogbunigwe
danfo driver wrote:
Spicyee wrote:
Goldleaf wrote:Pope
Butland
Pickford

Alexander-Arnold
Cahill
Macguire
Stones
Trippier
Dier
Rose
Young
Jones
Walker

Delph
Dele Alli
Sterling
Loftus-Cheek
Linguard
Henderson

Kane
Vardy
Welbeck
Rashford

England Manager Gareth Soughgate's 23 for Russia. The 3 keepers only have 9 caps between them all. This is very unlike England. Soughgate obviously believes that chemistry matters more than experience judging by England's victories at U17 and U20. The days of established names representing England for years and years seems to have come to an end.
Loftus-Cheek over Ross Barkley? :oops:
what did Ross Barkeley do this season?
is he still playing football?

Re: Southgate drops his best playmaker Jack Wilshire. Hmmm

Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 4:25 pm
by danfo driver
Chief Ogbunigwe wrote:
danfo driver wrote:
Spicyee wrote:
Goldleaf wrote:Pope
Butland
Pickford

Alexander-Arnold
Cahill
Macguire
Stones
Trippier
Dier
Rose
Young
Jones
Walker

Delph
Dele Alli
Sterling
Loftus-Cheek
Linguard
Henderson

Kane
Vardy
Welbeck
Rashford

England Manager Gareth Soughgate's 23 for Russia. The 3 keepers only have 9 caps between them all. This is very unlike England. Soughgate obviously believes that chemistry matters more than experience judging by England's victories at U17 and U20. The days of established names representing England for years and years seems to have come to an end.
Loftus-Cheek over Ross Barkley? :oops:
what did Ross Barkeley do this season?
is he still playing football?
He played vs Newcastle, last weekend. If you want to call that "played"