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Tunisian Gooner wrote:When you think of Arsenal today the terms hollow, flaccid, vapid, shallow, feckless are all accurate descriptions.

I have been having these weird dreams that we gonna end up like Portsmouth :curse: :curse: :curse:
Waffi is right, fate of Arsenal over next 3-5 years rests on highly regarded core of kids coming up the ranks.

Off the pitch the best case scenario you have immense growing pains, if not outright shambles.
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http://www.espn.com/soccer/arsenal/stor ... gy-sources
According to club sources, Sanllehi, the former director of football at Barcelona, favoured a recruitment policy based on his extensive network of contacts throughout Europe, while Mislintat had been tasked by Gazidis to follow the kind of analytical and stats-based approach that saw 19-year-old midfielder Matteo Guendouzi join from French second-division club Lorient and 22-year-old Uruguay international Lucas Torreira arrive from Sampdoria.

Contrary to some reports, Mislintat and Arsenal manager Unai Emery have enjoyed a very good working relationship, sources have told ESPN FC, with mooted interest in Mislintat from Bayern Munich also not having played a part in the backroom upheaval either. However, the German's position has been further undermined by the club's willingness to appoint a technical director, a move that would amount to a de-facto demotion.
Apparently Raul and Sven had a falling out...

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Pray I'm wrong but this has all hallmarks of a power grab. Gazidis departure, perfect opportunity for Raul, sees power vacuum as his chance to take complete control of Arsenal.

This is red wedding like coup led by spanish duo. Raul and his man Emery now run the ship.


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bepanda wrote:Again, because Arsenal pay players higher wages doesn't mean they are better players. And that's my point.
Let me ask one more time: How did you measure that we have a better squad?
How would you rate Fabianski vs Leno/Cech? I would take Fabianski
How would you rate AMN vs Zabaletta? I would take Zabaletta
How would you rate Felipe Anderson vs Iwobi I would take Felipe Anderson
How would you rate Xhaka vs Noble? I would take Noble
How would you rate Ozil vs Nasri? I will let you decide this one ... Nasri is on $80k/week at West Ham.
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I'm sorry, Arsenal squad is average.
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bepanda wrote:I'm curious about the criteria you use to believe West Ham squad is inferior to Arsenal.
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cchinukw wrote:At the end of this season, there needs to be a massive clearout of deadwood.
All we need to do is stay the course.
I don't care much for whether we get back to Champions League footie this season.
The rot that ate into the club in the later Wenger years needs at least 2 seasons to rectify.
We simply do not have any defenders to keep us up.
"massive clearout of deadwood" - how long have we heard that? Go back to Bendtner & now Jenkinson etc.
How does West Ham with an inferior squad play more disciplined defence than us? More than just getting new players - i happen to believe we need pace all over the pitch but our defensive habits are disturbing.
I am all for logic but let's not be vacuous with it. Arsenal aims to make top 4 always - Hammers aim to beat relegation always. We could go to their annual seeking to get Arsenal rejects.
The observation i'll make is you were so impressed with Manuel Pellegrini's Hammers that you doubt we've a better squad - gotta wonder why the agents of those players have them working at a level below their talent then.
We were outcoached by an old fox who's got us wondering where we're headed.
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Your logic undermines the argument you're trying to make - Manuel_P has done a far better job of improving the Hammers post Slaven_B than Unai has done with Arsenal post AW.
Comparing retiring veteran Zabaleta(a specialist RB) to AMN(makeshift RB) is nitpicking & doesn't speak to talent pool within both squads.
As for Fabianski, you gotta ask why after Cardiff gets relegated - he ends up @WH. He once played @ a big club -
oh yes, Arsenal - he was a mess most of the time. Does he have the mentality to play at that level? Cech does, Wojciech Szczęsny certainly does.
Nasri is where he's cos of self-destructive acts - that's a man who found ways to underachieve. I'll have to watch him thru the rest of the season to see where he's at.
Your argument like any coming from an emotional place lives on misguided logic. It's really simple, in Manuel Pellegrini W.H. has an old fox who knows the EPL - he took Unai to school.
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If I give you a good wine, you will see how it tastes and after you ask where it comes from,'' ""To put players in my team who are not good enough will not strengthen the England team, and would weaken the Arsenal team.''The only thing I can say is that whenever England do not win it is always my fault,even when I am not at the game".Wenger said.
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Tunisian Gooner wrote:Pray I'm wrong but this has all hallmarks of a power grab. Gazidis departure, perfect opportunity for Raul, sees power vacuum as his chance to take complete control of Arsenal.

This is red wedding like coup led by spanish duo. Raul and his man Emery now run the ship.


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I like Sven's record - & like you, one smells a coup - the spirit's going against the modern structure that we wanted - this is about securing Emery & his boy. What does Emery know about transfers - he'd someone @Sevilla do that for him - we've gotta rectify this b4 we're totally had. He's meant to be a Coach Euro-style not manager old EPL_style.
Bayern respects his rep & that speaks volumes.
If I give you a good wine, you will see how it tastes and after you ask where it comes from,'' ""To put players in my team who are not good enough will not strengthen the England team, and would weaken the Arsenal team.''The only thing I can say is that whenever England do not win it is always my fault,even when I am not at the game".Wenger said.
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Tunisian Gooner wrote:Sven off to Bayern....Banter era is full effect.

Sven exit just one more example how daunting task of rebuilding Arsenal will be. Rebuilding Arsenal is a full blown 5 year project. Retaining top football ops people for long haul, people who have plethora of other opportunities at superior clubs will be extremely difficult.
I bet this is Wenger and Gazidis fault too. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Tunisian Gooner wrote:Pray I'm wrong but this has all hallmarks of a power grab. Gazidis departure, perfect opportunity for Raul, sees power vacuum as his chance to take complete control of Arsenal.

This is red wedding like coup led by spanish duo. Raul and his man Emery now run the ship.


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You wish. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Raul has no record of any note at being a DoF or Sporting Director.

Since you are guessing, why not a return to, and complete takeover by StatDNA and moneyball.
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tolahs wrote:
Tunisian Gooner wrote:Pray I'm wrong but this has all hallmarks of a power grab. Gazidis departure, perfect opportunity for Raul, sees power vacuum as his chance to take complete control of Arsenal.

This is red wedding like coup led by spanish duo. Raul and his man Emery now run the ship.


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I like Sven's record - & like you, one smells a coup - the spirit's going against the modern structure that we wanted - this is about securing Emery & his boy. What does Emery know about transfers - he'd someone @Sevilla do that for him - we've gotta rectify this b4 we're totally had. He's meant to be a Coach Euro-style not manager old EPL_style.
Bayern respects his rep & that speaks volumes.
Think about Emery public comments of no money for Jan window just loans and subsequent fallout. Yet Emery was not saying any of just a week prior, Emery was pushing narrative Arsenal in market, looking to buy 1 or 2 players. This smells to high heaven, again pray I'm wrong but you see this often in corporate, departure of boss aka Gazidis and opportunists pounce to cement place as main power brokers.

Post Gazidis there has been a clear shift under Raul and Emery, Ramsey deal pulled, links to likes of Carrasco, Banega, Suarez and now Sven departure.

Again this has all hallmarks of coup by Spanish duo.
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Tunisian Gooner wrote:http://www.espn.com/soccer/arsenal/stor ... gy-sources
According to club sources, Sanllehi, the former director of football at Barcelona, favoured a recruitment policy based on his extensive network of contacts throughout Europe, while Mislintat had been tasked by Gazidis to follow the kind of analytical and stats-based approach that saw 19-year-old midfielder Matteo Guendouzi join from French second-division club Lorient and 22-year-old Uruguay international Lucas Torreira arrive from Sampdoria.

Contrary to some reports, Mislintat and Arsenal manager Unai Emery have enjoyed a very good working relationship, sources have told ESPN FC, with mooted interest in Mislintat from Bayern Munich also not having played a part in the backroom upheaval either. However, the German's position has been further undermined by the club's willingness to appoint a technical director, a move that would amount to a de-facto demotion.
Apparently Raul and Sven had a falling out...

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Where is the leadership at this club. What exactly is Raul's role now? When did the terms of Sven's contract change? Wenger held all these things together at Arsenal as the figurehead who represented as the face of the club.

Things are going to get worse from what I have heard. You wait for our best players to start their own issues.
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Waffiman wrote:
Tunisian Gooner wrote:http://www.espn.com/soccer/arsenal/stor ... gy-sources
According to club sources, Sanllehi, the former director of football at Barcelona, favoured a recruitment policy based on his extensive network of contacts throughout Europe, while Mislintat had been tasked by Gazidis to follow the kind of analytical and stats-based approach that saw 19-year-old midfielder Matteo Guendouzi join from French second-division club Lorient and 22-year-old Uruguay international Lucas Torreira arrive from Sampdoria.

Contrary to some reports, Mislintat and Arsenal manager Unai Emery have enjoyed a very good working relationship, sources have told ESPN FC, with mooted interest in Mislintat from Bayern Munich also not having played a part in the backroom upheaval either. However, the German's position has been further undermined by the club's willingness to appoint a technical director, a move that would amount to a de-facto demotion.
Apparently Raul and Sven had a falling out...

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Where is the leadership at this club. What exactly is Raul's role now? When did the terms of Sven's contract change? Wenger held all these things together at Arsenal as the figurehead who represented as the face of the club.

Things are going to get worse from what I have heard. You wait for our best players to start their own issues.
Jeremy Wilson shares your sentiments...
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Tunisian Gooner wrote:
tolahs wrote:
Tunisian Gooner wrote:Pray I'm wrong but this has all hallmarks of a power grab. Gazidis departure, perfect opportunity for Raul, sees power vacuum as his chance to take complete control of Arsenal.

This is red wedding like coup led by spanish duo. Raul and his man Emery now run the ship.


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I like Sven's record - & like you, one smells a coup - the spirit's going against the modern structure that we wanted - this is about securing Emery & his boy. What does Emery know about transfers - he'd someone @Sevilla do that for him - we've gotta rectify this b4 we're totally had. He's meant to be a Coach Euro-style not manager old EPL_style.
Bayern respects his rep & that speaks volumes.
Think about Emery public comments of no money for Jan window just loans and subsequent fallout. Yet Emery was not saying any of just a week prior, Emery was pushing narrative Arsenal in market, looking to buy 1 or 2 players. This smells to high heaven, again pray I'm wrong but you see this often in corporate, departure of boss aka Gazidis and opportunists pounce to cement place as main power brokers.

Post Gazidis there has been a clear shift under Raul and Emery, Ramsey deal pulled, links to likes of Carrasco, Banega, Suarez and now Sven departure.

Again this has all hallmarks of coup by Spanish duo.
Arsenal stand no chance in signing Carrasco. How can we? We do not want to pay Ramsey's wages, yet we will pay Carrasco's plus his transfer fee. Besides, other top clubs are interested, we are not acting like a top club.
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From the Oracle himself....

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/46886457


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Not till it’s reduced to rubbles.
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Tunisian Gooner wrote:From the Oracle himself....

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/46886457


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Total & utter shambles. No leadership at all. Marcotti said when Sarri's asked about transfers he makes it clear the people above him handle that & questions should be directed their way - Emery has in his ans recently become an old-style manager as opposed to new-school coach we thought we were getting - no wonders Sven is stunned about how much power Unai now has.
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Independent: Mislintat has put forward some strong recommendations for players that have not been followed up + Emery have taken a more active role RE: transfer targets than the Sven had anticipated. Relation with #AFC new regime not as smooth as hoped.
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Raul, Emery & Sven know how the structure is meant to operate since they've all worked within similar environments most of their careers - looks like they're sending Sven away to end up lobbying for some other Spaniard - some of the corruption that takes place in La Liga will not fly in the EPL.
Sad time for Gooner_Nation. Kroenke's as clueless as you'll ever find. Really hope Unai is confronted with hard questions in his pre-match conf.
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This is almost looking like what happened in Yugoslavia after Marshall Tito passed on. Carnage, with armed camps and factions all trying to create their own little Fiefdoms without one central authority to dictate the tone and direction.

This story was first broken by the LeGrove twat and I initially ignored because he is a petulant little prick. However it seems that the cracks in leadership left by the ouster of Arsene and the later departure of Ivan G have left this club on the edge.

Who knows what the real story is but clearly there is a huge problem at the Emirates. Im hoping against hope that they can retain Sven because clearly Rowley and Grimandi simply stole a living for de ades :curse: :curse:

I will stay tuned to this but this makes for depressing reading. There are some real dark clouds forming above the Emirates :shock: :shock:
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So I am meant to believe successful clubs must choose one method of recruitment - Mislintat's analytical approach vs Sanllehi European contacts?
Thought management was about marrying the 2 approaches amongst many & getting the best deal for Arsenal. The narrative is poor but allowed to swim cos of the toothlessness of us the Gooner_nation. Our collective silence is taken for approval - any noises made are barely loud enough to ruffle feathers. Fan movement is needed ASAP cos like Niku alluded to - we're looking like those Yogoslavs sipping Coffee/tea in cafes while our club is been taken from us.
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"Mislintat [5 Dec 2017]: “At Arsenal I want to do the very best job I can do. I’m excited for the challenge and can easily imagine myself at Arsenal, in London, for 10, 12 years as long as my family and I feel at home there.”


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http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/sv ... 48230.html
SPIEGEL's version -by Raphael Honigstein:

" the reason for this is not, as the English media speculate, an alleged offer by FC Bayern München to the former boss scout of Borussia Dortmund . There are fundamental disagreements about the transfer policy and corporate structure of the London club, which make separation on the point of view indispensable.....After the departure of Gazidis, who joined in September 2018 as managing director at AC Milan, but the Spaniard Raul Sanllehi was promoted at the Gunners to the "Head of Football". The notions of 49-year-olds, who are very much networked in European football, were reportedly not in line with Mislintat's analytical approach when it came to signing new commitments. Sanllehi relies on good contacts, Mislintat rather on numbers. Gazidis lacked a mediator between the two different views.
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"An agent with close connections to the club has told the independent: “There was no unifying vision. Steak is great. Apples are great. But who wants apple steak?” Regarding how #AFC new regime approaches transfer targets."

Who's the captain of our Ship? & we all blamed AW for dithering!!!?


I respect Edu - but what does bro bring to the TD spot? Sven not giving any job guarantees last yrs seems to suggest Raul & co came with a plan from the start - "tear the roof off the mother s*cker "
We are been played for suckers y'all. :sad: :boo:
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Doubling the danourubicin but there are lumps in the ball bag. Too late. “It”, that hideous Frankensteinian monster or rather, Carlton Drake symbiote, had long proven itself parasitic for many moons, yet more opiates and less antimicrobials were the answer. Yes, there was a need for modernity, a change from totalitarianism to a more focused, labour divisive, action accountable approach, yet, for all the speculation, the revolution seems blighted by the very same venom. Power, power, power...is it any surprise, it has been the way, behold the new Machiavellians. Who cares? Everything needed to be reduced to rubble, including the broken bricks, let them be trampled to dust...only then can the land be cleared for building and planning permitted.

If Emery wants the power of his predecessor, or seeks to create a cabal of kinfolk, let it be. Let him keep the circle that he feels imperative to his success. No more excuses, no more, “they made me do it”. If the riches have been yahoozied, then give a man wealth in other resources. Fill the halls and corridors with Spaniards wall to wall. And let those knives that lay blunt and shamelessly escaped their duty, be made sharp and kept at the ready.

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Edu no gree dance:

https://extra.globo.com/esporte/por-lea ... 61718.html

For loyalty to Tite, Edu Gaspar says 'no' to Arsenal to stay in the selection

Invited by Arsenal to join the board of directors, Edu Gaspar decided to remain as CBF's national team coach until 2022. In the balance, it was mainly the commitment to work alongside the technical Tite in the current World Cup cycle and also the relative contract long relationship with CBF - the bond expires after the Qatar World Cup......
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So Raul & co are briefing journos that with Edu in they can cope with the loss of Sven only to come to find out - dude hadn't accepted.
You want him to dump his country for this N.London Circus - really.
Gotta wonder if Raul intends to appoint a TD - maybe a relative a la' Trump(the way this is playing out).
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The ship has been sinking in the harbour for far too long, cut anchor and let the whole lot, crew and captain, succumb to the sea. The woods have sprung more leaks than Julian Assange on a pogo stick. Truth be told, the Titanic hasn’t been sea worthy for some time, building on that very frame, is no more than dressage on a diplodocus. As suggested by the right, honourable Gentleman above, five years or more. Drown the lot and start it new. That which remains buoyed in the water, pinch its nose and hold the head beneath the surface.
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Is Emery & Raul really pushing for Denis Suarez & James Rodriguez - can't see why we need those guys now - we need pace, power, ball winning ability, defensive solidity etc - hope Agents aren't paying peoples' relatives off('xcuse me) - can't help the thought.
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@Tolahs, if Brexit and Trump have achieved anything at all, tis the death of PC. In its most blunt, brutal and straight to the meat-ness, Beloved needs Blacks. Dacoure, in, Boly, in, that pacy chap from Crystal Palace, in!

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