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Smashing and grabbing a bottom placed team is the new Arsenal. Welcome to the new Arsenal.
And hope you guys noticed the difference in coaching between the two teams. How long has this new Huddersfield German coach being with the team? A month or two yet his impact is being felt. If I am a betting man I will bet on Huddersfield surviving the drop even though it seems a lost battle.
On another note and while planning for next season I hope our scouts will start keeping a tab on that Huddersfield jersey # 7, the Dutch Dacuna.


Oh yeah the one that sent a shot at goal so high into orbit it clipped the wings of a 737 :rotf: :rotf:


That tells why you player assessment should be taken with a pinch of salt. You conveniently forgot his last minute shot that Leno saved but conveniently remembered the shot he hoofed over the bar.


So he sent one moon shot and another straight at the keeper with time to aim?

Yup sign him up straight away :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

No be ya fault, you went to school in the North :taunt: :taunt:


Keep enjoying the aesthetics of the game while the real game leave you behind :taunt: :taunt: :taunt: :taunt: :taunt: :taunt:
Dacuna played a significant part in Huddersfield dominating our midfield. Expect him to make the move to a bigger club even if the club goes down. Just remember i told you so as usual Aniks the slow learner :taunt: :taunt: :taunt: :taunt:


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See this Mullah trained Ole :woot: No wonder you moved in with them :taunt: :taunt:

You mentioned the guy and I immediately showed that I was watching yet now you dey stutter and fumble .... Speaking of Slow learners howz ya boy Granit doing these days :mrgreen:


Yeah you watching indeed and all you saw in his full match play was his ballooning the ball to the moon.
How long has Cech being with Arsenal? That's how long it took you to realize what i first said the day we signed him. And yet you call me slow learner. Who's a better definition of slow learner than you. :taunt: :taunt: :taunt: :taunt:
My boy Xhaka is doing great in his new position as the root/base of our midfield. Tell your coach to stop playing him as a CD/LF. This dutch guy is a good player to sign to compete with Xhaka for the base of midfield position.

Why i dey bother talk football with you sef. That una Okigwe football pitch wey be like where earthquake just happened. No wonder you get opportunity to watch better game all you are bother about na the aesthetics. I no blame you oo. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:



Er go and look at my comments on Cech. I fail to see what your outburst is about :woot: I can’t even count how many crap players here that I stood virtually alone and pointed out their hopelessness and later proven right .... Anyway why do I bother with a Wukari trained Bushman :mrgreen:

You didn’t enjoy enough time with The Mullahs Of sambissa forest that you then decided in ya adult life to move in with them :mrgreen:

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There's a paranoia in the the Gooner_nation when it comes to Unai that's unnhealthy & quite honestly should be beneath those who are fans of this club. Most of the arguments put up as defence for poor performance border on insincere.
Let's remember we come from a place in very recent History where we'd become consciously or otherwise enablers of
mediocrity when it came to asking hard questions of Arsene that i believe it led him to lose real hunger to improve until it was too late.

Unai Emery: 'Arsenal were in decline and had lost defensive structure' - said Last year
many of us appreciated the honesty but some of you seem to think he should be above criticism with the most common excuse of squad imbalance. -

"Arsenal remain the only team in the PL yet to keep a clean sheet away from home this season" In a 20 team EPL? Really - are many of these teams with new coaches too with more balanced squad than us?
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Huddersfield managed six shots on target vs. Arsenal on Saturday; West Ham (7) are the only visiting side that have allowed the Terriers more in the Premier League this season.
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@Coral:
Huddersfield had not scored in 9 hours and 57 minutes of football... until they met Arsenal.
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@Squawka:
Arsenal have have had fewer than five shots on target in 16 of their 26 Premier League games this season.
They managed just six in 180 minutes vs. Huddersfield.
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I gotta ask - Is Unai doing a Wenger & ignoring Steve Bould's input cos our defensive shape comes across as yet to be determined - we look like a bunch of guys who aren't used to playing with each other. This gaffer after 26 matches seems to lack something on how to defensively set up in this league. Those who talk about 5/6 transfer windows ignore the ambitions of players to be with teams fighting for trophies.
Emery needs to join the party - we ain't in, not with such performances. "defensive structure" - what's the plan boss?

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There's a paranoia in the the Gooner_nation when it comes to Unai that's unnhealthy & quite honestly should be beneath those who are fans of this club. Most of the arguments put up as defence for poor performance border on insincere.
Let's remember we come from a place in very recent History where we'd become consciously or otherwise enablers of
mediocrity when it came to asking hard questions of Arsene that i believe it led him to lose real hunger to improve until it was too late.

Unai Emery: 'Arsenal were in decline and had lost defensive structure' - said Last year
many of us appreciated the honesty but some of you seem to think he should be above criticism with the most common excuse of squad imbalance. -

"Arsenal remain the only team in the PL yet to keep a clean sheet away from home this season" In a 20 team EPL? Really - are many of these teams with new coaches too with more balanced squad than us?
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@Squawka:
Huddersfield managed six shots on target vs. Arsenal on Saturday; West Ham (7) are the only visiting side that have allowed the Terriers more in the Premier League this season.
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@Coral:
Huddersfield had not scored in 9 hours and 57 minutes of football... until they met Arsenal.
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@Squawka:
Arsenal have have had fewer than five shots on target in 16 of their 26 Premier League games this season.
They managed just six in 180 minutes vs. Huddersfield.
-------------------------------------------

I gotta ask - Is Unai doing a Wenger & ignoring Steve Bould's input cos our defensive shape comes across as yet to be determined - we look like a bunch of guys who aren't used to playing with each other. This gaffer after 26 matches seems to lack something on how to defensively set up in this league. Those who talk about 5/6 transfer windows ignore the ambitions of players to be with teams fighting for trophies.
Emery needs to join the party - we ain't in, not with such performances. "defensive structure" - what's the plan boss?


Some choose to ignore reality of task facing Emery.

For example....




success not linear. This team with not a single top quality winger on either flank, albatrosses such Mustafi, Xhaka, Kola, injuries to vital players, malcontents on insane wages I.e Ozil, Idea Emery should implement "a system" in face squad that has litany of said deficiencies, stamp out front runner culture, dramatically improve off the ball shambles, with a Jan window budget of a diet Coke and box Cheerios and on top of that play champagne football reeks of just do A, B, C, D simplicity.

22 game unbeaten run came with fully fit Holding, Bellerin and Sokratis, Now it's Mustafi and one of Liechtensteiner or AMN. That opened up a nightmarish can of worms for Emery. Arsenal wing play is put it kindly limited. Teams easily expose Arsenal when they attack, easily nullify Arsenal defensively. Hard truth Emery does not trust this team to balance attack and defense. He has opted for pragmatism particularly following injuries to trio of Holding, Bellerin and Sokratis.

Bottom line this is mish mash squad. pieces don't fit, did not work with offensively inclined AW, will not work with Emery. Clear Emery believes limitations of this squad means its either aesthetically pleasing football or results, combination of the two not possible with current squad.

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^Pay peanuts, get monkeys and it’s planet of the Apes at Ashburton. Anyone believing the panacea to a decade of decadence, is a £40m transfer budget, is as lost as Where’s Wally. A transfer budget beneath that of Wolverhampton Wanderers is supposed to catapult this Frankenstinian mess back to the summit. How? Once again, Beloved is settling for mediocrity and one doubts Emeribe’s knowledge of the lie of the ground, will allow for such passivity to prosper. More of the same, groundhog decade, decent cup runs and dogsh*t in the league.

£40m to fix that mess. Who could possibly come in for such? Dennis Suarez, Alberto ‘can’t defend, won’t defend’ Moreno, Gary Cahill, with enough left over to go in light for Phil Jagielka. Big Sam lined up by the winter solstice.


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Like I always insisted and I have for years here. We need perspective. No revisionism, no belittling of bygone legends. Here are the facts and summary of it all.

An injury hit team did not play well, but won away and are still in touch with the top 4. Life could be far worse.

Bring on the Europa League, and let's stop moaning and making things worse than they are.

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Waffiman wrote:
Like I always insisted and I have for years here. We need perspective. No revisionism, no belittling of bygone legends. Here are the facts and summary of it all.

An injury hit team did not play well, but won away and are still in touch with the top 4. Life could be far worse.

Bring on the Europa League, and let's stop moaning and making things worse than they are.


:clap: :clap: Well said...

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Tunisian Gooner wrote:
tolahs wrote:
There's a paranoia in the the Gooner_nation when it comes to Unai that's unnhealthy & quite honestly should be beneath those who are fans of this club. Most of the arguments put up as defence for poor performance border on insincere.
Let's remember we come from a place in very recent History where we'd become consciously or otherwise enablers of
mediocrity when it came to asking hard questions of Arsene that i believe it led him to lose real hunger to improve until it was too late.

Unai Emery: 'Arsenal were in decline and had lost defensive structure' - said Last year
many of us appreciated the honesty but some of you seem to think he should be above criticism with the most common excuse of squad imbalance. -

"Arsenal remain the only team in the PL yet to keep a clean sheet away from home this season" In a 20 team EPL? Really - are many of these teams with new coaches too with more balanced squad than us?
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@Squawka:
Huddersfield managed six shots on target vs. Arsenal on Saturday; West Ham (7) are the only visiting side that have allowed the Terriers more in the Premier League this season.
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@Coral:
Huddersfield had not scored in 9 hours and 57 minutes of football... until they met Arsenal.
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@Squawka:
Arsenal have have had fewer than five shots on target in 16 of their 26 Premier League games this season.
They managed just six in 180 minutes vs. Huddersfield.
-------------------------------------------

I gotta ask - Is Unai doing a Wenger & ignoring Steve Bould's input cos our defensive shape comes across as yet to be determined - we look like a bunch of guys who aren't used to playing with each other. This gaffer after 26 matches seems to lack something on how to defensively set up in this league. Those who talk about 5/6 transfer windows ignore the ambitions of players to be with teams fighting for trophies.
Emery needs to join the party - we ain't in, not with such performances. "defensive structure" - what's the plan boss?


Some choose to ignore reality of task facing Emery.

For example....




success not linear. This team with not a single top quality winger on either flank, albatrosses such Mustafi, Xhaka, Kola, injuries to vital players, malcontents on insane wages I.e Ozil, Idea Emery should implement "a system" in face squad that has litany of said deficiencies, stamp out front runner culture, dramatically improve off the ball shambles, with a Jan window budget of a diet Coke and box Cheerios and on top of that play champagne football reeks of just do A, B, C, D simplicity.

22 game unbeaten run came with fully fit Holding, Bellerin and Sokratis, Now it's Mustafi and one of Liechtensteiner or AMN. That opened up a nightmarish can of worms for Emery. Arsenal wing play is put it kindly limited. Teams easily expose Arsenal when they attack, easily nullify Arsenal defensively. Hard truth Emery does not trust this team to balance attack and defense. He has opted for pragmatism particularly following injuries to trio of Holding, Bellerin and Sokratis.

Bottom line this is mish mash squad. pieces don't fit, did not work with offensively inclined AW, will not work with Emery. Clear Emery believes limitations of this squad means its either aesthetically pleasing football or results, combination of the two not possible with current squad.



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Tunisian Gooner wrote:
tolahs wrote:
There's a paranoia in the the Gooner_nation when it comes to Unai that's unnhealthy & quite honestly should be beneath those who are fans of this club. Most of the arguments put up as defence for poor performance border on insincere.
Let's remember we come from a place in very recent History where we'd become consciously or otherwise enablers of
mediocrity when it came to asking hard questions of Arsene that i believe it led him to lose real hunger to improve until it was too late.

Unai Emery: 'Arsenal were in decline and had lost defensive structure' - said Last year
many of us appreciated the honesty but some of you seem to think he should be above criticism with the most common excuse of squad imbalance. -

"Arsenal remain the only team in the PL yet to keep a clean sheet away from home this season" In a 20 team EPL? Really - are many of these teams with new coaches too with more balanced squad than us?
-----------------------
@Squawka:
Huddersfield managed six shots on target vs. Arsenal on Saturday; West Ham (7) are the only visiting side that have allowed the Terriers more in the Premier League this season.
-----------------
@Coral:
Huddersfield had not scored in 9 hours and 57 minutes of football... until they met Arsenal.
---------------------------
@Squawka:
Arsenal have have had fewer than five shots on target in 16 of their 26 Premier League games this season.
They managed just six in 180 minutes vs. Huddersfield.
-------------------------------------------

I gotta ask - Is Unai doing a Wenger & ignoring Steve Bould's input cos our defensive shape comes across as yet to be determined - we look like a bunch of guys who aren't used to playing with each other. This gaffer after 26 matches seems to lack something on how to defensively set up in this league. Those who talk about 5/6 transfer windows ignore the ambitions of players to be with teams fighting for trophies.
Emery needs to join the party - we ain't in, not with such performances. "defensive structure" - what's the plan boss?


Some choose to ignore reality of task facing Emery.

For example....




success not linear. This team with not a single top quality winger on either flank, albatrosses such Mustafi, Xhaka, Kola, injuries to vital players, malcontents on insane wages I.e Ozil, Idea Emery should implement "a system" in face squad that has litany of said deficiencies, stamp out front runner culture, dramatically improve off the ball shambles, with a Jan window budget of a diet Coke and box Cheerios and on top of that play champagne football reeks of just do A, B, C, D simplicity.

22 game unbeaten run came with fully fit Holding, Bellerin and Sokratis, Now it's Mustafi and one of Liechtensteiner or AMN. That opened up a nightmarish can of worms for Emery. Arsenal wing play is put it kindly limited. Teams easily expose Arsenal when they attack, easily nullify Arsenal defensively. Hard truth Emery does not trust this team to balance attack and defense. He has opted for pragmatism particularly following injuries to trio of Holding, Bellerin and Sokratis.

Bottom line this is mish mash squad. pieces don't fit, did not work with offensively inclined AW, will not work with Emery. Clear Emery believes limitations of this squad means its either aesthetically pleasing football or results, combination of the two not possible with current squad.



I applaud your consistency - but you're arguing for a blank cheque - no ifs or buts.

1st away win since Nov- 25th last yr - Okay.???

only team in the PL yet to keep a clean sheet away from home this season!!! - heck, the performances will come??.

There's nothing wrong with criticising a gaffer you wish well & support - seems to have been forgotten around here -
it's gotten real tribal & unhealthy.

Reality??? - Ain't no player not out of contract can be thrown out w/o payoff - Jenkinson just turned 27 - tell me what he's done for us?
You've gotta use the squad you got - Rafa makes this team one helluva defensive unit - Unai needs defensive assistance - blaming the players is getting old.

As for AMN - fans let him know:

https://twitter.com/afcstuff/

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In Niles' defence, its a dogsh*t curriculum for youth players in England, one that leaves them as intellectually challenged as Ralf Wiggum on Mastermind. Not nearly enough exposure of home grown to competitive, meaningful matches. Truth be told, Niles isn't quite ready for Premier League football week in, week out, irrespective of position.


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I hope you Anti Emery chipmunks can see what City is doing to Chelshyt ..:. At this rate, Arsenal might be in fifth place because of the drubbing

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Holding your club accountable for tactical shortcomings ain't anti_nothing but mediocrity - Prof Niks. Chelsea's owner like any money launderer you can find brought Sarri in to play Sarri_ball - they've got the players but are they sold on their new gaffer's ways.???
We go to Hudders & concede territory & possession in a way that must be troubling for any true fan(You're definitely one of those) - we couldn't hold on to the ball upfront, telegraphed passes & kept dropping deep to our box to defend - must be able to ask questions w/o being called the new "satan"
Chelsea is proving you need more than money & players. Didn't they beat ManC early this season? Sarri has method - does Unai??

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tolahs wrote:
Holding your club accountable for tactical shortcomings ain't anti_nothing but mediocrity - Prof Niks. Chelsea's owner like any money launderer you can find brought Sarri in to play Sarri_ball - they've got the players but are they sold on their new gaffer's ways.???
We go to Hudders & concede territory & possession in a way that must be troubling for any true fan(You're definitely one of those) - we couldn't hold on to the ball upfront, telegraphed passes & kept dropping deep to our box to defend - must be able to ask questions w/o being called the new "satan"
Chelsea is proving you need more than money & players. Didn't they beat ManC early this season? Sarri has method - does Unai??



Man mi I can’t understand this incoherence ... so let’s agree to disagree :taunt: :taunt:

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I hope you Anti Emery chipmunks can see what City is doing to Chelshyt ..:. At this rate, Arsenal might be in fifth place because of the drubbing


As usual you are enjoying the aesthetics of the game and not looking deep. This sort of defeat has long been in the oven baking for Chelsea. Just like you are calling some of us names, so i believe some Chelsea fans saying and highlighting the truth about Sarri's truth would have been called names by those who refuse to look deep.

Sarri's Chelsea of all the top 6 teams is the easiest to beat. Do a number on Jorghino or render him useless and Chelsea is done for. First Jorghino is too slow to play that position. His recoverability which is highly desired for that highly technical position is serious lacking. Sarri's problem started the day he tried to turn the best DM, Kante in the world into an attacking midfielder just to accommodate Jorghino. Only a huff and puff coach like Sarri will do that. It's akin to Unai attempt in playing Xhaka as a CD/LF.

And while we still on this match hope this debate on quality stops. On paper both Man City and Chelsea are equally matched quality wise. But the difference is the tactics adopted on the day. While against Arsenal Unai put a number on Jorghino Pepe went the other way. He simply came up with a tactics to deny Jorghino of the ball. The mistake Sarri did was not to come up with a plan to counter KDB. The result is what we all had today. Man City 6 Chelsea 0.

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azuka wrote:
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I hope you Anti Emery chipmunks can see what City is doing to Chelshyt ..:. At this rate, Arsenal might be in fifth place because of the drubbing


As usual you are enjoying the aesthetics of the game and not looking deep. This sort of defeat has long been in the oven baking for Chelsea. Just like you are calling some of us names, so i believe some Chelsea fans saying and highlighting the truth about Sarri's truth would have been called names by those who refuse to look deep.

Sarri's Chelsea of all the top 6 teams is the easiest to beat. Do a number on Jorghino or render him useless and Chelsea is done for. First Jorghino is too slow to play that position. His recoverability which is highly desired for that highly technical position is serious lacking. Sarri's problem started the day he tried to turn the best DM, Kante in the world into an attacking midfielder just to accommodate Jorghino. Only a huff and puff coach like Sarri will do that. It's akin to Unai attempt in playing Xhaka as a CD/LF.

And while we still on this match hope this debate on quality stops. On paper both Man City and Chelsea are equally matched quality wise. But the difference is the tactics adopted on the day. While against Arsenal Unai put a number on Jorghino Pepe went the other way. He simply came up with a tactics to deny Jorghino of the ball. The mistake Sarri did was not to come up with a plan to counter KDB. The result is what we all had today. Man City 6 Chelsea 0.



You either have trouble reading or it’s the comprehension. Again Emery with major injuries to his defense held on and only lost due to unconscionable mental errors and a handball ... The point was that the Haters are clueless and can’t see below the surface. All this nonsense about the errors of Chelshyt, which are obvious, is so typical of you.

Again this is what happens when you’re educated in the North :mrgreen:

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azuka wrote:
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I hope you Anti Emery chipmunks can see what City is doing to Chelshyt ..:. At this rate, Arsenal might be in fifth place because of the drubbing


As usual you are enjoying the aesthetics of the game and not looking deep. This sort of defeat has long been in the oven baking for Chelsea. Just like you are calling some of us names, so i believe some Chelsea fans saying and highlighting the truth about Sarri's truth would have been called names by those who refuse to look deep.

Sarri's Chelsea of all the top 6 teams is the easiest to beat. Do a number on Jorghino or render him useless and Chelsea is done for. First Jorghino is too slow to play that position. His recoverability which is highly desired for that highly technical position is serious lacking. Sarri's problem started the day he tried to turn the best DM, Kante in the world into an attacking midfielder just to accommodate Jorghino. Only a huff and puff coach like Sarri will do that. It's akin to Unai attempt in playing Xhaka as a CD/LF.

And while we still on this match hope this debate on quality stops. On paper both Man City and Chelsea are equally matched quality wise. But the difference is the tactics adopted on the day. While against Arsenal Unai put a number on Jorghino Pepe went the other way. He simply came up with a tactics to deny Jorghino of the ball. The mistake Sarri did was not to come up with a plan to counter KDB. The result is what we all had today. Man City 6 Chelsea 0.


Stand Up!!! Preach - debating footie tactics is become rare on this thread. it's about what cult you belong to.
What Sarri is doing with Kante is similar to what Unai is asking LT to do( he said earlier in the season the Emery wanted him running forward more) - i suspect to make up for Xhaka's lack of pace & our absence of real wingers.
Jorghino was also wanted by ManC - but i suspect he would've been used in matches where teams came to only defend.
Sarri has also said he was brought in to for Sarri-ball - if they don't adjust soon, it could get worse(not that i am complaining).

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tolahs wrote:
azuka wrote:
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I hope you Anti Emery chipmunks can see what City is doing to Chelshyt ..:. At this rate, Arsenal might be in fifth place because of the drubbing


As usual you are enjoying the aesthetics of the game and not looking deep. This sort of defeat has long been in the oven baking for Chelsea. Just like you are calling some of us names, so i believe some Chelsea fans saying and highlighting the truth about Sarri's truth would have been called names by those who refuse to look deep.

Sarri's Chelsea of all the top 6 teams is the easiest to beat. Do a number on Jorghino or render him useless and Chelsea is done for. First Jorghino is too slow to play that position. His recoverability which is highly desired for that highly technical position is serious lacking. Sarri's problem started the day he tried to turn the best DM, Kante in the world into an attacking midfielder just to accommodate Jorghino. Only a huff and puff coach like Sarri will do that. It's akin to Unai attempt in playing Xhaka as a CD/LF.

And while we still on this match hope this debate on quality stops. On paper both Man City and Chelsea are equally matched quality wise. But the difference is the tactics adopted on the day. While against Arsenal Unai put a number on Jorghino Pepe went the other way. He simply came up with a tactics to deny Jorghino of the ball. The mistake Sarri did was not to come up with a plan to counter KDB. The result is what we all had today. Man City 6 Chelsea 0.


Stand Up!!! Preach - debating footie tactics is become rare on this thread. it's about what cult you belong to.
What Sarri is doing with Kante is similar to what Unai is asking LT to do( he said earlier in the season the Emery wanted him running forward more) - i suspect to make up for Xhaka's lack of pace & our absence of real wingers.
Jorghino was also wanted by ManC - but i suspect he would've been used in matches where teams came to only defend.
Sarri has also said he was brought in to for Sarri-ball - if they don't adjust soon, it could get worse(not that i am complaining).


Ohh you noticed that too. Glad you did. The LT that started the season is not positionally the same LT that plays now. That is another salient point affecting our play. But see how people are going to read meanings into that bold part you just pointed out.

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tolahs wrote:
azuka wrote:
anikulapo wrote:
I hope you Anti Emery chipmunks can see what City is doing to Chelshyt ..:. At this rate, Arsenal might be in fifth place because of the drubbing


As usual you are enjoying the aesthetics of the game and not looking deep. This sort of defeat has long been in the oven baking for Chelsea. Just like you are calling some of us names, so i believe some Chelsea fans saying and highlighting the truth about Sarri's truth would have been called names by those who refuse to look deep.

Sarri's Chelsea of all the top 6 teams is the easiest to beat. Do a number on Jorghino or render him useless and Chelsea is done for. First Jorghino is too slow to play that position. His recoverability which is highly desired for that highly technical position is serious lacking. Sarri's problem started the day he tried to turn the best DM, Kante in the world into an attacking midfielder just to accommodate Jorghino. Only a huff and puff coach like Sarri will do that. It's akin to Unai attempt in playing Xhaka as a CD/LF.

And while we still on this match hope this debate on quality stops. On paper both Man City and Chelsea are equally matched quality wise. But the difference is the tactics adopted on the day. While against Arsenal Unai put a number on Jorghino Pepe went the other way. He simply came up with a tactics to deny Jorghino of the ball. The mistake Sarri did was not to come up with a plan to counter KDB. The result is what we all had today. Man City 6 Chelsea 0.


Stand Up!!! Preach - debating footie tactics is become rare on this thread. it's about what cult you belong to.
What Sarri is doing with Kante is similar to what Unai is asking LT to do( he said earlier in the season the Emery wanted him running forward more) - i suspect to make up for Xhaka's lack of pace & our absence of real wingers.
Jorghino was also wanted by ManC - but i suspect he would've been used in matches where teams came to only defend.
Sarri has also said he was brought in to for Sarri-ball - if they don't adjust soon, it could get worse(not that i am complaining).


Ohh you noticed that too. Glad you did. The LT that started the season is not positionally the same LT that plays now. That is another salient point affecting our play. But see how people are going to read meanings into that bold part you just pointed out.


Journos have asked Sarri about how Kante's deployed - i really hope Emery's asked the same about LT for in my opinion, it's a reckless move - he's a proper ball winner - give the backline that screen.

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tolahs wrote:
azuka wrote:
tolahs wrote:
azuka wrote:
anikulapo wrote:
I hope you Anti Emery chipmunks can see what City is doing to Chelshyt ..:. At this rate, Arsenal might be in fifth place because of the drubbing


As usual you are enjoying the aesthetics of the game and not looking deep. This sort of defeat has long been in the oven baking for Chelsea. Just like you are calling some of us names, so i believe some Chelsea fans saying and highlighting the truth about Sarri's truth would have been called names by those who refuse to look deep.

Sarri's Chelsea of all the top 6 teams is the easiest to beat. Do a number on Jorghino or render him useless and Chelsea is done for. First Jorghino is too slow to play that position. His recoverability which is highly desired for that highly technical position is serious lacking. Sarri's problem started the day he tried to turn the best DM, Kante in the world into an attacking midfielder just to accommodate Jorghino. Only a huff and puff coach like Sarri will do that. It's akin to Unai attempt in playing Xhaka as a CD/LF.

And while we still on this match hope this debate on quality stops. On paper both Man City and Chelsea are equally matched quality wise. But the difference is the tactics adopted on the day. While against Arsenal Unai put a number on Jorghino Pepe went the other way. He simply came up with a tactics to deny Jorghino of the ball. The mistake Sarri did was not to come up with a plan to counter KDB. The result is what we all had today. Man City 6 Chelsea 0.


Stand Up!!! Preach - debating footie tactics is become rare on this thread. it's about what cult you belong to.
What Sarri is doing with Kante is similar to what Unai is asking LT to do( he said earlier in the season the Emery wanted him running forward more) - i suspect to make up for Xhaka's lack of pace & our absence of real wingers.
Jorghino was also wanted by ManC - but i suspect he would've been used in matches where teams came to only defend.
Sarri has also said he was brought in to for Sarri-ball - if they don't adjust soon, it could get worse(not that i am complaining).


Ohh you noticed that too. Glad you did. The LT that started the season is not positionally the same LT that plays now. That is another salient point affecting our play. But see how people are going to read meanings into that bold part you just pointed out.


Journos have asked Sarri about how Kante's deployed - i really hope Emery's asked the same about LT for in my opinion, it's a reckless move - he's a proper ball winner - give the backline that screen.


I think he is trying to use Kante the way he used Allan at Napoli where he(Allan) was tasked with winning the ball back as early as possible but that is not working out because Chelsea doesnt have players(offensive ones) who are as disciplined( at least to play his system) as the ones he had at Napoli. I still dont get why he is not putting more focus in fine tuning other areas before moving Kante a bit forward (keep him close to Jorginho for the time being) and let the offensive players learn to press effectively before moving Kante forward to do the pressing. The other option could be moving Kovacic/Bartley to do the pressing instead. That way when/if the opponent manages to break through the press kante and Jorginho are still there.


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bk-one wrote:
tolahs wrote:
azuka wrote:
tolahs wrote:
azuka wrote:
anikulapo wrote:
I hope you Anti Emery chipmunks can see what City is doing to Chelshyt ..:. At this rate, Arsenal might be in fifth place because of the drubbing


As usual you are enjoying the aesthetics of the game and not looking deep. This sort of defeat has long been in the oven baking for Chelsea. Just like you are calling some of us names, so i believe some Chelsea fans saying and highlighting the truth about Sarri's truth would have been called names by those who refuse to look deep.

Sarri's Chelsea of all the top 6 teams is the easiest to beat. Do a number on Jorghino or render him useless and Chelsea is done for. First Jorghino is too slow to play that position. His recoverability which is highly desired for that highly technical position is serious lacking. Sarri's problem started the day he tried to turn the best DM, Kante in the world into an attacking midfielder just to accommodate Jorghino. Only a huff and puff coach like Sarri will do that. It's akin to Unai attempt in playing Xhaka as a CD/LF.

And while we still on this match hope this debate on quality stops. On paper both Man City and Chelsea are equally matched quality wise. But the difference is the tactics adopted on the day. While against Arsenal Unai put a number on Jorghino Pepe went the other way. He simply came up with a tactics to deny Jorghino of the ball. The mistake Sarri did was not to come up with a plan to counter KDB. The result is what we all had today. Man City 6 Chelsea 0.


Stand Up!!! Preach - debating footie tactics is become rare on this thread. it's about what cult you belong to.
What Sarri is doing with Kante is similar to what Unai is asking LT to do( he said earlier in the season the Emery wanted him running forward more) - i suspect to make up for Xhaka's lack of pace & our absence of real wingers.
Jorghino was also wanted by ManC - but i suspect he would've been used in matches where teams came to only defend.
Sarri has also said he was brought in to for Sarri-ball - if they don't adjust soon, it could get worse(not that i am complaining).


Ohh you noticed that too. Glad you did. The LT that started the season is not positionally the same LT that plays now. That is another salient point affecting our play. But see how people are going to read meanings into that bold part you just pointed out.


Journos have asked Sarri about how Kante's deployed - i really hope Emery's asked the same about LT for in my opinion, it's a reckless move - he's a proper ball winner - give the backline that screen.


I think he is trying to use Kante the way he used Allan at Napoli where he(Allan) was tasked with winning the ball back as early as possible but that is not working out because Chelsea doesnt have players(offensive ones) who are as disciplined( at least to play his system) as the ones he had at Napoli. I still dont get why he is not putting more focus in fine tuning other areas before moving Kante a bit forward (keep him close to Jorginho for the time being) and let the offensive players learn to press effectively before moving Kante forward to do the pressing. The other option could be moving Kovacic/Bartley to do the pressing instead. That way when/if the opponent manages to break through the press kante and Jorginho are still there.


Coaches under the guise of conviction can be stubborn to the detriment of the team & frustration of fans. I remember many Arsenal fans having to sign a petition imploring AW to give Song a shift @DM - he kept playing Denilson there & would provide stats on why he was best suited to the spot.
Likewise, Sarri has misused Kante & put crazy pressure on newbie Jorghino - who obviously has become a target for opposing teams - take him out of rhythm & Chelsea suffer.

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Chelsea recent spending:
Bakayoko 42$,
Barkley 20$
drinkwater 35$,
Morata 80$
Zappacosta 10$,
Jorgingo 57$,
luiz 30$,
Higuain (loan)?
Giroud 20$.
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Like I always insisted and I have for years here. We need perspective. No revisionism, no belittling of bygone legends. Here are the facts and summary of it all.

An injury hit team did not play well, but won away and are still in touch with the top 4. Life could be far worse.

Bring on the Europa League, and let's stop moaning and making things worse than they are.

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I hear Arsenal fans complaining and moaning about style.

Say What???

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