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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 10:27 pm 
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Can anybody offer a perspective on why it was disallowed? It looked like a good goal to me.

Does it have anything to do with being naive Africans, who had no godfathers, cos that goals would have changed the complexion of the tornament, considering also that Algeria was plainly robbed by the shameless and frauduent antics of both West Germany and Austria.


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The Joy of Six: World Cup refereeing controversies

5. Roger Milla's disallowed goal against Peru (1982)
A moment of officiating incompetence that had a surprisingly broad historical significance. With Cameroon's opening group match against Peru goalless Roger Milla ran on to a neat through pass and lofted the ball into the roof of the net, before running off to celebrate, not with a groin-thrusting romance of the corner flag, but with a single erect arm, Alan Shearer style. The goal was disallowed for offside by the Austrian referee Franz Wöhrer and his East German and Romanian linesmen Adolf Prokop and Nicolai Rainea – despite the fact that neither Milla nor any other Cameroon player was close to an offside position at any stage.
The game finished goalless and might, at the time, have seemed an irrelevance – minor African team get unlucky in group game clash – if it wasn't for the fact that this was in fact a fine Cameroon team, as they would show in their subsequent 0-0 with a strong Poland and the 1-1 against eventual winners Italy in the final group game. Milla's chalked-off – and expertly taken – goal turned out to have historically urgent resonance. Not just because Italy went through by virtue of having scored more goals and would eventually beat West Germany convincingly in the final. More pertinent to Milla, Cameroon would have become the first African team to reach the second round, four years ahead of Morocco in 1986. And in the process a sense of injustice – fanned in Cameroon by England's two, fairly unarguable, penalties in 1990 – that African teams were being covertly excluded from the late stages of the World Cup might never have come about.
Milla (already 30 in 1982) would have his moment. The corner-flag groin-thrust would surface finally eight years later as a brilliantly talented Cameroon team came close to a semi-final place. And perhaps, on reflection, there is a tiny sense of who it may have been directed at.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/ ... troversies


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What made you wake up today and decide to add to the pain of the plantanians? Is it not enough that they have to watch this upcoming WC on old black and white Sanyo TV sets, missing one antenna?

What next? Are you going to bring up Suarez' spectacular save against Ghana in WC 2010? :mad:

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 10:42 pm 
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This wrong call pales compared to the call in AFCON 1988 final Cameroon v Nigeria

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Atrocious!! This is why VAR is a great assistance.


anointed wrote:
Can anybody offer a perspective on why it was disallowed? It looked like a good goal to me.

Does it have anything to do with being naive Africans, who had no godfathers, cos that goals would have changed the complexion of the tornament, considering also that Algeria was plainly robbed by the shameless and frauduent antics of both West Germany and Austria.


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The Joy of Six: World Cup refereeing controversies

5. Roger Milla's disallowed goal against Peru (1982)
A moment of officiating incompetence that had a surprisingly broad historical significance. With Cameroon's opening group match against Peru goalless Roger Milla ran on to a neat through pass and lofted the ball into the roof of the net, before running off to celebrate, not with a groin-thrusting romance of the corner flag, but with a single erect arm, Alan Shearer style. The goal was disallowed for offside by the Austrian referee Franz Wöhrer and his East German and Romanian linesmen Adolf Prokop and Nicolai Rainea – despite the fact that neither Milla nor any other Cameroon player was close to an offside position at any stage.
The game finished goalless and might, at the time, have seemed an irrelevance – minor African team get unlucky in group game clash – if it wasn't for the fact that this was in fact a fine Cameroon team, as they would show in their subsequent 0-0 with a strong Poland and the 1-1 against eventual winners Italy in the final group game. Milla's chalked-off – and expertly taken – goal turned out to have historically urgent resonance. Not just because Italy went through by virtue of having scored more goals and would eventually beat West Germany convincingly in the final. More pertinent to Milla, Cameroon would have become the first African team to reach the second round, four years ahead of Morocco in 1986. And in the process a sense of injustice – fanned in Cameroon by England's two, fairly unarguable, penalties in 1990 – that African teams were being covertly excluded from the late stages of the World Cup might never have come about.
Milla (already 30 in 1982) would have his moment. The corner-flag groin-thrust would surface finally eight years later as a brilliantly talented Cameroon team came close to a semi-final place. And perhaps, on reflection, there is a tiny sense of who it may have been directed at.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/ ... troversies


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I feel nothing for those Cameroonian thieves.

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The Cameroonian goalkeeper Thomas Nkono had to be the best goalkeeper out of Africa. Nobody had come close since his retirement. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

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Pure and plain day light robbery.


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It still pains me today to recollect, especially as it may have put one of Poland or Italy out.... so Ill just slide past....

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Thats was a goal, pure and simple, also was a time went there was blatant racism and prejudice against smaller nations

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History has shown that when the oppressed wake, they can be more potent than their former oppressors.

So it is probably unwise the manner.in which Africa is treated.

You look at some of the most dominant groups in the world's economy today, they were formally oppressed.


I just hope people remember history, before they start crying in 50 or 100 years time that Africa is a bully or that

Africa has an unfair advantage.

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achuzia-the-air-raid wrote:
The Cameroonian goalkeeper Thomas Nkono had to be the best goalkeeper out of Africa. Nobody had come close since his retirement. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Every time I watch Thomas Nkono, I realise that I did not even appreciate him enough as a kid. Damn that guy was born to keep, see agility, see reading of the game.....Thomas Nkono a legend!

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I watched that game on TV. The refs were racist against African teams back then. Anyone remember Maldivian tripping the late Yekininwhen he was clean through on goal? Our was it Barrsi?

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I watched that game on TV. The refs were racist against African teams back then. Anyone remember Maldivian tripping the late Yekininwhen he was clean through on goal? Our was it Barrsi?


1. It was Maldini
2. He was the last man
3. He wrapped his arm around Yekini and dragged him to the ground
4. He only got a yellow


Interestingly enough, Antonio Conte was on the bench for this game and never got to play on the pitch. Anyway, no be today wey FIFA begin deal with African teams.

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oloye wrote:
achuzia-the-air-raid wrote:
The Cameroonian goalkeeper Thomas Nkono had to be the best goalkeeper out of Africa. Nobody had come close since his retirement. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Every time I watch Thomas Nkono, I realise that I did not even appreciate him enough as a kid. Damn that guy was born to keep, see agility, see reading of the game.....Thomas Nkono a legend!


He is a legend!

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Scipio Africanus wrote:
What made you wake up today and decide to add to the pain of the plantanians? Is it not enough that they have to watch this upcoming WC on old black and white Sanyo TV sets, missing one antenna?

What next? Are you going to bring up Suarez' spectacular save against Ghana in WC 2010? :mad:


Let me kuku pile up the pain to the platainian o. Remember this Omam Biyik's disallowed goal in 1998 WC?
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Two Cameroon players were sent off with red cards and the Indomitable Lions finished the match with only nine men on the field. But the play that enraged Le Roy occurred in the 59th minute with the score tied at 1-1. Francois Omam Biyick ricocheted a blast off the right post that skittered into the net, apparently giving Cameroon a 2-1 lead and renewing the brilliance that the forward had demonstrated with a short-handed goal to defeat Argentina in the 1990 World Cup.
But the referee, Laszlo Vagner of Hungary, waved off today's goal. He ruled that Cameroon forward Patrick Mboma had fouled Chile's Ronald Fuentes as the two players challenged for a header pass that Mboma placed at Omam Biyick's feet. The foul ruling seemed harsh on what appeared to be a routine play. And the decision was hugely important because Cameroon (0-1-2) needed a victory to advance, while Chile (0-0-3) needed only a tie.
https://www.nytimes.com/1998/06/24/spor ... ation.html






But no be only them o...do you remember this in our match against Argentina circa 2010? Who knows our player that was held there?

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wanaj0 wrote:
oloye wrote:
achuzia-the-air-raid wrote:
The Cameroonian goalkeeper Thomas Nkono had to be the best goalkeeper out of Africa. Nobody had come close since his retirement. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Every time I watch Thomas Nkono, I realise that I did not even appreciate him enough as a kid. Damn that guy was born to keep, see agility, see reading of the game.....Thomas Nkono a legend!


He is a legend!


KPOM :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

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Scipio Africanus wrote:
YUJAM wrote:
I watched that game on TV. The refs were racist against African teams back then. Anyone remember Maldivian tripping the late Yekininwhen he was clean through on goal? Our was it Barrsi?


1. It was Maldini
2. He was the last man
3. He wrapped his arm around Yekini and dragged him to the ground
4. He only got a yellow


Interestingly enough, Antonio Conte was on the bench for this game and never got to play on the pitch. Anyway, no be today wey FIFA begin deal with African teams.

What exactly was rascism there?? That was 94 and the last man rule did not exist then.


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gochino wrote:
Scipio Africanus wrote:
YUJAM wrote:
I watched that game on TV. The refs were racist against African teams back then. Anyone remember Maldivian tripping the late Yekininwhen he was clean through on goal? Our was it Barrsi?


1. It was Maldini
2. He was the last man
3. He wrapped his arm around Yekini and dragged him to the ground
4. He only got a yellow


Interestingly enough, Antonio Conte was on the bench for this game and never got to play on the pitch. Anyway, no be today wey FIFA begin deal with African teams.

What exactly was rascism there?? That was 94 and the last man rule did not exist then.


Where did you see racism in my post?

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I did not realise Thomas Nkono was that good. :clap: :clap: :clap:

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Sorry auto-correct was in full crazy mode. Maldini of course

Scipio Africanus wrote:
YUJAM wrote:
I watched that game on TV. The refs were racist against African teams back then. Anyone remember Maldivian tripping the late Yekininwhen he was clean through on goal? Our was it Barrsi?


1. It was Maldini
2. He was the last man
3. He wrapped his arm around Yekini and dragged him to the ground
4. He only got a yellow


Interestingly enough, Antonio Conte was on the bench for this game and never got to play on the pitch. Anyway, no be today wey FIFA begin deal with African teams.

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Preventing a clear goal scoring opportunity was a red card back then. One can make the case that Maldini was not punished as harshly as say Uche would have been punished for the same foul, thus a case for racism

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Scipio Africanus wrote:
YUJAM wrote:
I watched that game on TV. The refs were racist against African teams back then. Anyone remember Maldivian tripping the late Yekininwhen he was clean through on goal? Our was it Barrsi?


1. It was Maldini
2. He was the last man
3. He wrapped his arm around Yekini and dragged him to the ground
4. He only got a yellow


Interestingly enough, Antonio Conte was on the bench for this game and never got to play on the pitch. Anyway, no be today wey FIFA begin deal with African teams.

What exactly was rascism there?? That was 94 and the last man rule did not exist then.

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But no be only them o...do you remember this in our match against Argentina circa 2010? Who knows our player that was held there?



Kai, Enyeama tried that day o!

And I wan yab Higuain for always chopping chances, but I saw the ones Messi chopped (credit to Vinny).

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