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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 4:13 pm 
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Breaking: Moses Simon Injured, Out Of World Cup

KAA Gent of Belgium forward Moses Simon is Injured and will miss the 2018 world cup in Russia

The 22 year old winger had a scan which revealed he will be out for at least three weeks . . . . www.soccerassembly.com/breaking-moses-s ... world-cup/


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damn. iwish him a speedy recovery if true. door opens up for someone else

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Benedict Iroha wrote:
Onyekuru!!



Is Onyekuru on 30-man list? Not at all. IMHO, this opens up a spot at third striker position or gives Mikel Agu and John Ogu a spot for sure.

It is aBIG hit on Nigeria TBH. Instead of assured cover on the wide midfield with four players, Nigeria is now down to three with Musa as swingman. This is dangerously moving Nigeria to a serious consideration for structural change on the field itself if no like for like replacement is possible at this time.

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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 4:30 pm 
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Simmy Nwankwo is now probably going to the world cup.

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Enugu II wrote:
Benedict Iroha wrote:
Onyekuru!!



Is Onyekuru on 30-man list? Not at all. IMHO, this opens up a spot at third striker position or gives Mikel Agu and John Ogu a spot for sure.

It is aBIG hit on Nigeria TBH. Instead of assured cover on the wide midfield with four players, Nigeria is now down to three with Musa as swingman. This is dangerously moving Nigeria to a serious consideration for structural change on the field itself if no like for like replacement is possible at this time.


Not really. Four widemen for two positions was always superfluous...

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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 4:36 pm 
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Chei hard luck for MoSimon, which "baba" has Ayo been paying visit to lately on behalf of his boy Kelechi :sneaky:


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Sad to hear Moses Simon is out of the World Cup. Such a credit to the qualifers' campaign.


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When I told you all that Rohr's stupidity will come to haunt us.

NOW WE HAVE 3 WIDE PLAYERS AMONGST 30 AND ONE OF THEM IS "CHICKEN HEAD" MUSA.

How do we have more strikers than wingers when we play a 433

Ighalo, Iheanacho, Nwankwo, Lokosa are all strikers

Iwobi, Moses, Musa are wingers. Musa isn't even a winger to be honest.

Even according to reports dummy Rohr was playing Lokosa in a "wide position" and he wasn't doing well. Well of course he isn't doing well because he is A STRIKER not a winger, but dummy Rohr would rather call a striker and play him as a winger instead of calling up actual wingers


Olayinka
Onyekuru
Samuel Kalu
Imoh
Bazee


But dummy Rohr knows best. what a fool.


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txj wrote:
Enugu II wrote:
Benedict Iroha wrote:
Onyekuru!!



Is Onyekuru on 30-man list? Not at all. IMHO, this opens up a spot at third striker position or gives Mikel Agu and John Ogu a spot for sure.

It is aBIG hit on Nigeria TBH. Instead of assured cover on the wide midfield with four players, Nigeria is now down to three with Musa as swingman. This is dangerously moving Nigeria to a serious consideration for structural change on the field itself if no like for like replacement is possible at this time.


Not really. Four widemen for two positions was always superfluous...


In a 23-man team, the consideration of four men wide is not out of place. However, with this injury that itself is no longer achievable and other considerations are likely to be made. To force it is likely to consider the option of Etebo out wide. However, I believe there is flexibility in terms of the players likely to make the final squad.

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vancity eagle wrote:
When I told you all that Rohr's stupidity will come to haunt us.

NOW WE HAVE 3 WIDE PLAYERS AMONGST 30 AND ONE OF THEM IS "CHICKEN HEAD" MUSA.

How do we have more strikers than wingers when we play a 433

Ighalo, Iheanacho, Nwankwo, Lokosa are all strikers

Iwobi, Moses, Musa are wingers. Musa isn't even a winger to be honest.

Even according to reports dummy Rohr was playing Lokosa in a "wide position" and he wasn't doing well. Well of course he isn't doing well because he is A STRIKER not a winger, but dummy Rohr would rather call a striker and play him as a winger instead of calling up actual wingers

Three wide players for two positions, with the additional options of wing backs is just about right...
Olayinka
Onyekuru
Samuel Kalu
Imoh
Bazee


But dummy Rohr knows best. what a fool.

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Enugu II wrote:
txj wrote:
Enugu II wrote:
Benedict Iroha wrote:
Onyekuru!!



Is Onyekuru on 30-man list? Not at all. IMHO, this opens up a spot at third striker position or gives Mikel Agu and John Ogu a spot for sure.

It is aBIG hit on Nigeria TBH. Instead of assured cover on the wide midfield with four players, Nigeria is now down to three with Musa as swingman. This is dangerously moving Nigeria to a serious consideration for structural change on the field itself if no like for like replacement is possible at this time.


Not really. Four widemen for two positions was always superfluous...


In a 23-man team, the consideration of four men wide is not out of place. However, with this injury that itself is no longer achievable and other considerations are likely to be made. To force it is likely to consider the option of Etebo out wide. However, I believe there is flexibility in terms of the players likely to make the final squad.


Agreed, its not out of place. But my point is that it does not necessarily warrant in-field structural change...

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vancity eagle wrote:
When I told you all that Rohr's stupidity will come to haunt us.

NOW WE HAVE 3 WIDE PLAYERS AMONGST 30 AND ONE OF THEM IS "CHICKEN HEAD" MUSA.

How do we have more strikers than wingers when we play a 433

Ighalo, Iheanacho, Nwankwo, Lokosa are all strikers

Iwobi, Moses, Musa are wingers. Musa isn't even a winger to be honest.

Even according to reports dummy Rohr was playing Lokosa in a "wide position" and he wasn't doing well. Well of course he isn't doing well because he is A STRIKER not a winger, but dummy Rohr would rather call a striker and play him as a winger instead of calling up actual wingers


Olayinka
Onyekuru
Samuel Kalu
Imoh
Bazee


But dummy Rohr knows best. what a fool.

You're listing a player that is not fit enough to play even in a league game talkless of the WC (Onyekuru). Another one may not even be eligible to play for Nigeria (Bazee?) and the rest completely unknown and untested. Thank God you're not the coach!

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Enugu II wrote:
txj wrote:
Enugu II wrote:
Benedict Iroha wrote:
Onyekuru!!



Is Onyekuru on 30-man list? Not at all. IMHO, this opens up a spot at third striker position or gives Mikel Agu and John Ogu a spot for sure.

It is aBIG hit on Nigeria TBH. Instead of assured cover on the wide midfield with four players, Nigeria is now down to three with Musa as swingman. This is dangerously moving Nigeria to a serious consideration for structural change on the field itself if no like for like replacement is possible at this time.


Not really. Four widemen for two positions was always superfluous...


In a 23-man team, the consideration of four men wide is not out of place. However, with this injury that itself is no longer achievable and other considerations are likely to be made. To force it is likely to consider the option of Etebo out wide. However, I believe there is flexibility in terms of the players likely to make the final squad.



of course having 4 wide players is not too much, this clown doesn't know what he is talking about.

we play a 433 usually.

1 goalkeeper
2 central defenders
2 wingbacks
3 midfielders
2 wingers
1 striker

Therefore you should basically have 2 players for each position and an extra goalkeeper in your 23 man squad.

3 goalkeepers
4 central defenders
4 wingbacks
6 midfielders
4 wingers
2 strikers


What kind of dumb coach will only call 4 wingers to a 30 man roster, especially when one of them (Ahmed Musa) isn't really even a winger.

He chose to ignore Onyekuru, Olayinka, Dennis, Kalu, Imoh, Eduok, even Kelechi Nwakali who had played wide often.

Instead calling up junk players, or strikers and forcing them to play wide against their natural inclination (Lokosa)

I am sorry but Rohr is A FOOL. A LAZY CONSERVATIVE FOOL.

he will be our undoing at this WC.

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we just played 2 friendlies where we did not score 1 legitmate goal against average opponents, even with slow defenders.

We didn't have ONE SHOT ON GOAL vs Poland. People are blaming Ighalo, but the fact is that our wingers are not playing smart.

and this clown coach takes 4 wingers to camp. 2 who are known chicken heads. He didn't even want to look at other creative players. See how Eduok was putting in accurate crosses against AM.

Instead he would rather take some homebased striker and play him as a winger in camp. Then wonder why he was putting in a poor shift.

Dumb, lazy coach.

What a joke. This is an embarrassment, honestly it is Keshi-esque.

If this clown knows what is good for him, he will immedietly call up Kelechi Nwakali, and Onyekuru and replace Simon with one of the 2, whoever does better in camp.

This can be legally done, if a player is injured, he can be replaced by someone not on the 30 man list.

Is our coach to lazy to even contemplate this ?


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txj wrote:
Enugu II wrote:
txj wrote:
Enugu II wrote:
Benedict Iroha wrote:
Onyekuru!!



Is Onyekuru on 30-man list? Not at all. IMHO, this opens up a spot at third striker position or gives Mikel Agu and John Ogu a spot for sure.

It is aBIG hit on Nigeria TBH. Instead of assured cover on the wide midfield with four players, Nigeria is now down to three with Musa as swingman. This is dangerously moving Nigeria to a serious consideration for structural change on the field itself if no like for like replacement is possible at this time.


Not really. Four widemen for two positions was always superfluous...


In a 23-man team, the consideration of four men wide is not out of place. However, with this injury that itself is no longer achievable and other considerations are likely to be made. To force it is likely to consider the option of Etebo out wide. However, I believe there is flexibility in terms of the players likely to make the final squad.


Agreed, its not out of place. But my point is that it does not necessarily warrant in-field structural change...


At this time, it changes nothing but it could if some of the current players go down even briefly. With the current 4-2-3-1, the wide players are critical to Nigeria's counters that rely on quick play down wide. IMHO, if you lose men that have that ability a structural change to a 3-5-2 (w/the ball) may become necessary where the wide backs are used for the same purpose. However, I agree that we are not yet at that point.

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vancity eagle wrote:
Enugu II wrote:
txj wrote:
Enugu II wrote:
Benedict Iroha wrote:
Onyekuru!!



Is Onyekuru on 30-man list? Not at all. IMHO, this opens up a spot at third striker position or gives Mikel Agu and John Ogu a spot for sure.

It is aBIG hit on Nigeria TBH. Instead of assured cover on the wide midfield with four players, Nigeria is now down to three with Musa as swingman. This is dangerously moving Nigeria to a serious consideration for structural change on the field itself if no like for like replacement is possible at this time.


Not really. Four widemen for two positions was always superfluous...


In a 23-man team, the consideration of four men wide is not out of place. However, with this injury that itself is no longer achievable and other considerations are likely to be made. To force it is likely to consider the option of Etebo out wide. However, I believe there is flexibility in terms of the players likely to make the final squad.



of course having 4 wide players is not too much, this clown doesn't know what he is talking about.

we play a 433 usually.

1 goalkeeper
2 central defenders
2 wingbacks
3 midfielders
2 wingers
1 striker

Therefore you should basically have 2 players for each position and an extra goalkeeper in your 23 man squad.

3 goalkeepers
4 central defenders
4 wingbacks
6 midfielders
4 wingers
2 strikers


What kind of dumb coach will only call 4 wingers to a 30 man roster, especially when one of them (Ahmed Musa) isn't really even a winger.

He chose to ignore Onyekuru, Olayinka, Dennis, Kalu, Imoh, Eduok, even Kelechi Nwakali who had played wide often.

Instead calling up junk players, or strikers and forcing them to play wide against their natural inclination (Lokosa)

I am sorry but Rohr is A FOOL. A LAZY CONSERVATIVE FOOL.

he will be our undoing at this WC.

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Not necessarily.

There's something called multi role players. Plus the fact there are different definitions of roles in the wide area.

In wide areas, you can use any of the following:

- wingers
- wide midfielders
- wide forwards
- wingbacks

Losing Simon is a blow; but no need to overstate it's importance.

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Wide players

Etebo
Joel Obi
V Moses
Iwobi
Musa

I think the final battle will be between a midfielder and a striker. Who is more valuable to the team. Uche Agbo could make it. He is versatile. He can play in midfield and as center back.

I think the goal of the friendlies should be

1. Work on player fitness.
2. Work on keeping the ball
3. Work on defensive shape

Don't show too much of you tactics before the first match. Winning the next 3 friendlies should not be the goal.

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VE, STFU and stop polluting the forum with your vitriol. The fool as you called him qualified Nigeria from the toughest WCQ group with a game to spare without losing a match.
The fool took over a team that had failed to quality for 2 successive CANs with the likes of South Africa and Egypt qualifying ahead of us.
The fool has earned the right to pick his team without interference from your likes.
The conservative fool has brought in a new player in Simy Nwankwo to his provisional squad.
The fool requested the NFF to bring in the likes of the Nwakili brothers, Usman, Eduok, Alhassan etc into the squad for the friendly against Athletico Madrid. The squad was initially meant to an NPFL All- Stars but was changed to SE B team at Rohr's request because he wanted to watch these players with a view to the future.
Going by your antecedents, I expect you to support the opposition because of your hatred for Rohr, just like you did in 2013 CAN because of your hatred for Keshi.
Like the loud mouth that you are, you disappeared from the forum then and I expect you to do the same after the WC

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vancity eagle wrote:
Enugu II wrote:
txj wrote:
Enugu II wrote:
Benedict Iroha wrote:
Onyekuru!!



Is Onyekuru on 30-man list? Not at all. IMHO, this opens up a spot at third striker position or gives Mikel Agu and John Ogu a spot for sure.

It is aBIG hit on Nigeria TBH. Instead of assured cover on the wide midfield with four players, Nigeria is now down to three with Musa as swingman. This is dangerously moving Nigeria to a serious consideration for structural change on the field itself if no like for like replacement is possible at this time.


Not really. Four widemen for two positions was always superfluous...


In a 23-man team, the consideration of four men wide is not out of place. However, with this injury that itself is no longer achievable and other considerations are likely to be made. To force it is likely to consider the option of Etebo out wide. However, I believe there is flexibility in terms of the players likely to make the final squad.



of course having 4 wide players is not too much, this clown doesn't know what he is talking about.

we play a 433 usually.

1 goalkeeper
2 central defenders
2 wingbacks
3 midfielders
2 wingers
1 striker

Therefore you should basically have 2 players for each position and an extra goalkeeper in your 23 man squad.

3 goalkeepers
4 central defenders
4 wingbacks
6 midfielders
4 wingers
2 strikers


What kind of dumb coach will only call 4 wingers to a 30 man roster, especially when one of them (Ahmed Musa) isn't really even a winger.

He chose to ignore Onyekuru, Olayinka, Dennis, Kalu, Imoh, Eduok, even Kelechi Nwakali who had played wide often.

Instead calling up junk players, or strikers and forcing them to play wide against their natural inclination (Lokosa)

I am sorry but Rohr is A FOOL. A LAZY CONSERVATIVE FOOL.

he will be our undoing at this WC.

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I am still thinking :???: which name will fit you right now... what should one call you this afternoon for this opak, ranting, misjudgement, name calling, abusive words you used against our Coach... does this man deserve your wagging tongue dancing like an over fed Germany Dog?

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Dammy, damn. Easy on VE

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Dammy wrote:
VE, STFU and stop polluting the forum with your vitriol. The fool as you called him qualified Nigeria from the toughest WCQ group with a game to spare without losing a match.
The fool took over a team that had failed to quality for 2 successive CANs with the likes of South Africa and Egypt qualifying ahead of us.
The fool has earned the right to pick his team without interference from your likes.
The conservative fool has brought in a new player in Simy Nwankwo to his provisional squad.
The fool requested the NFF to bring in the likes of the Nwakili brothers, Usman, Eduok, Alhassan etc into the squad for the friendly against Athletico Madrid. The squad was initially meant to an NPFL All- Stars but was changed to SE B team at Rohr's request because he wanted to watch these players with a view to the future.
Going by your antecedents, I expect you to support the opposition because of your hatred for Rohr, just like you did in 2013 CAN because of your hatred for Keshi.
Like the loud mouth that you are, you disappeared from the forum then and I expect you to do the same after the WC



you will all soon see the folly of Rohr's conservative ways.

YOu do not run a team for over 2 years and fail to try out players in positions that need upgrading.

You do not call up only 4 wide players in a 30 man squad, thereby having no replacements for injury, and no competition at all for key positions.

Yet you continue to call up junk like Uche Agbo who serve no purpose what so ever.

You do not call up a striker (Lokosa) and expect him to play on the flanks when we have many legitimate wide options which for some reason you did not call up.

(Kalu, Imoh, Olayinka, Onyekuru, Dennis, Success, Nwakali, Bazee)

And if Moses or Iwobi, God forbid, gets injured, what is this foolish coach going to do ?


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The silliness of his comments are astonishing!
IF there is any truth to Simon being out, is calling Onyekuru, who hasn’t kicked a competitive ball in months or Kelechi, who lacks the pace and disciplines to play on the flanks the right solution?

As you rightly stated, a WC team is picked based on two criteria - that the player has the requisite skills set and that the player is multi functional (able to play multiple roles and positions comfortably).

Most of the players that Rohr is pinning his hopes fit that bill. You do not need 4 wingers in a squad, especially when you are not going to be restricted to playing only 433 or 442. Rohr has demonstrated that Nigeria can also play 352 and 532, which focuses more on wing backs vs wingers.

I really don’t see what the uproar is about. Again, if this story is true (since as at the time of my writing this, no other media outlet have mentioned this), then this just opens the door for Simy, which might even be a good thing for Nigeria
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Not necessarily.

There's something called multi role players. Plus the fact there are different definitions of roles in the wide area.

In wide areas, you can use any of the following:

- wingers
- wide midfielders
- wide forwards
- wingbacks

Losing Simon is a blow; but no need to overstate it's importance.


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