Pep Guardiola ‘does not like African Players" - Yaya Toure
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Re: Pep Guardiola ‘does not like African Players" - Yaya Tou
niyi wrote:Bros I agree with you 100%. A DM in the system where Barcelona have the ball all day is what again? A deep-lying CM? His defensive qualities are lost on me and his ability to "dictate" play will completely evaporate in a team where he has to do his actual job - be a defensive midfielder in the mold of Makalele, Gatusso or Kante.airwolex wrote:Not even close. Just lucky to be in Barca.I disagree. Busquets is one of the best DMs I have ever seen in my entire life.
Funny enough Pep does not use a DM at City neither did he use one at Bayern. In both cases he plays with 2-way midfielders like Fernandinho or Vidal. To create a place for Busquets at Barca he decided he was going to play a DM because that was the only way they could justify keeping Yaya on the bench.
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Re: Pep Guardiola ‘does not like African Players" - Yaya Tou
When people claim that Busi doesnt know how to defend i immediately realize that they have never watched him.niyi wrote:Bros I agree with you 100%. A DM in the system where Barcelona have the ball all day is what again? A deep-lying CM? His defensive qualities are lost on me and his ability to "dictate" play will completely evaporate in a team where he has to do his actual job - be a defensive midfielder in the mold of Makalele, Gatusso or Kante.airwolex wrote:Not even close. Just lucky to be in Barca.I disagree. Busquets is one of the best DMs I have ever seen in my entire life.
First of, Fernandinho plays as a DM for City. I have zero idea what you mean by a 2 way midfielder. Thank you for creating another fake position to back up your week point.Funny enough Pep does not use a DM at City neither did he use one at Bayern. In both cases he plays with 2-way midfielders like Fernandinho or Vidal. To create a place for Busquets at Barca he decided he was going to play a DM because that was the only way they could justify keeping Yaya on the bench.
Are you also going to tell us that these guys were "2 way midfielders?'
Xabi Alonso
Javi martinez - first season
Fernando
And Toure under Pep?
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What is he doing at the moment with Leicester City?maceo4 wrote:What’s new...see how the guy shipped off Kele even with his stats.
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Re: Pep Guardiola ‘does not like African Players" - Yaya Tou
box to box midfielders.danfo driver wrote:When people claim that Busi doesnt know how to defend i immediately realize that they have never watched him.niyi wrote:Bros I agree with you 100%. A DM in the system where Barcelona have the ball all day is what again? A deep-lying CM? His defensive qualities are lost on me and his ability to "dictate" play will completely evaporate in a team where he has to do his actual job - be a defensive midfielder in the mold of Makalele, Gatusso or Kante.airwolex wrote:Not even close. Just lucky to be in Barca.I disagree. Busquets is one of the best DMs I have ever seen in my entire life.
First of, Fernandinho plays as a DM for City. I have zero idea what you mean by a 2 way midfielder. Thank you for creating another fake position to back up your week point.Funny enough Pep does not use a DM at City neither did he use one at Bayern. In both cases he plays with 2-way midfielders like Fernandinho or Vidal. To create a place for Busquets at Barca he decided he was going to play a DM because that was the only way they could justify keeping Yaya on the bench.
Are you also going to tell us that these guys were "2 way midfielders?'
Xabi Alonso
Javi martinez - first season
Fernando
And Toure under Pep?
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Re: Pep Guardiola ‘does not like African Players" - Yaya Tou
Are Xabi, Javi, Fernando box to box midfielders?niyi wrote:box to box midfielders.danfo driver wrote:When people claim that Busi doesnt know how to defend i immediately realize that they have never watched him.niyi wrote:Bros I agree with you 100%. A DM in the system where Barcelona have the ball all day is what again? A deep-lying CM? His defensive qualities are lost on me and his ability to "dictate" play will completely evaporate in a team where he has to do his actual job - be a defensive midfielder in the mold of Makalele, Gatusso or Kante.airwolex wrote:Not even close. Just lucky to be in Barca.I disagree. Busquets is one of the best DMs I have ever seen in my entire life.
First of, Fernandinho plays as a DM for City. I have zero idea what you mean by a 2 way midfielder. Thank you for creating another fake position to back up your week point.Funny enough Pep does not use a DM at City neither did he use one at Bayern. In both cases he plays with 2-way midfielders like Fernandinho or Vidal. To create a place for Busquets at Barca he decided he was going to play a DM because that was the only way they could justify keeping Yaya on the bench.
Are you also going to tell us that these guys were "2 way midfielders?'
Xabi Alonso
Javi martinez - first season
Fernando
And Toure under Pep?
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Re: Pep Guardiola ‘does not like African Players" - Yaya Tou
And we can see how well he's doing at his current club.King Futcha wrote:danfo driver wrote:Another one.King Futcha wrote:poor wilfried bony, all he wanted was a chance.another coincidence.The Ivorian spent two-and-a-half seasons at the Etihad and was not considered an option under Pep Guardiola.
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Re: Pep Guardiola ‘does not like African Players" - Yaya Tou
Not true!platinum wrote:Oh boy, here we go again with Yaya Toure.
No case here, at this stage of his career, the guys who played this last season are better than him. When he was moved on at Barca, the guys who played were better then.
Yaya went to the African Nation's cup and Busquets stepped up to fill the void.
When Yaya came back, Pep didn't want to change a winning team, plus Busquets is Catalan.
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Re: Pep Guardiola ‘does not like African Players" - Yaya Tou
so grand wizard pep saw the future and decided not to give him a chance because he knew he would fail when he went to stoke and swansea... ok.Mr. Piffington wrote:And we can see how well he's doing at his current club.King Futcha wrote:danfo driver wrote:Another one.King Futcha wrote:poor wilfried bony, all he wanted was a chance.another coincidence.The Ivorian spent two-and-a-half seasons at the Etihad and was not considered an option under Pep Guardiola.
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Re: Pep Guardiola ‘does not like African Players" - Yaya Tou
How often did he use Fernando? He mostly used Javi Martinez as a CD. I am looking up Fernandinho and Xabi's heatmaps now and trying to compare their average positions to Busquet's average position. I can't find a lot of stuff and I'm not dedicated or passionate enough about this topic but my recollection is that Xabi and Fernandinho play more as Central Midfielders and Busquets plays as a dedicated DM.danfo driver wrote:Are Xabi, Javi, Fernando box to box midfielders?niyi wrote:box to box midfielders.danfo driver wrote:When people claim that Busi doesnt know how to defend i immediately realize that they have never watched him.niyi wrote:Bros I agree with you 100%. A DM in the system where Barcelona have the ball all day is what again? A deep-lying CM? His defensive qualities are lost on me and his ability to "dictate" play will completely evaporate in a team where he has to do his actual job - be a defensive midfielder in the mold of Makalele, Gatusso or Kante.airwolex wrote:Not even close. Just lucky to be in Barca.I disagree. Busquets is one of the best DMs I have ever seen in my entire life.
First of, Fernandinho plays as a DM for City. I have zero idea what you mean by a 2 way midfielder. Thank you for creating another fake position to back up your week point.Funny enough Pep does not use a DM at City neither did he use one at Bayern. In both cases he plays with 2-way midfielders like Fernandinho or Vidal. To create a place for Busquets at Barca he decided he was going to play a DM because that was the only way they could justify keeping Yaya on the bench.
Are you also going to tell us that these guys were "2 way midfielders?'
Xabi Alonso
Javi martinez - first season
Fernando
And Toure under Pep?
I am not claiming it's racism but there's definitely a teacher's pet situation going on because even when Mascherano joined, instead of allowing him to duke it out with Busquets at DM, they converted him into a CD.
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Re: Pep Guardiola ‘does not like African Players" - Yaya Tou
No, he assessed (correctly) he wasn't required and let him go. He's about results and the numbers this season prove that. No be everybody wey get African mentality, it's the reason why we enter a tournament and aim to get to semi finals.King Futcha wrote:so grand wizard pep saw the future and decided not to give him a chance because he knew he would fail when he went to stoke and swansea... ok.Mr. Piffington wrote:And we can see how well he's doing at his current club.King Futcha wrote:danfo driver wrote:Another one.King Futcha wrote:poor wilfried bony, all he wanted was a chance.another coincidence.The Ivorian spent two-and-a-half seasons at the Etihad and was not considered an option under Pep Guardiola.
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Re: Pep Guardiola ‘does not like African Players" - Yaya Tou
Sergio belongs in a La masia generation we will come to miss in a few years. If Spain win the WC again ( Which i quietly predict they will), watch out for Busquets. For Yaya, be quiet, you are a great player........Do not tarnish your legacy by talking like a small man
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Re: Pep Guardiola ‘does not like African Players" - Yaya Tou
not very surprised...Eto once said same thing...
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yes, the African is the small man, while your god who hates you and your family is beyond any criticismThe real deal wrote:
Sergio belongs in a La masia generation we will come to miss in a few years. If Spain win the WC again ( Which i quietly predict they will), watch out for Busquets. For Yaya, be quiet, you are a great player........Do not tarnish your legacy by talking like a small man
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No disrespect and I hate to go off-topic but you support Trump. It's never racism to youThe real deal wrote:
Sergio belongs in a La masia generation we will come to miss in a few years. If Spain win the WC again ( Which i quietly predict they will), watch out for Busquets. For Yaya, be quiet, you are a great player........Do not tarnish your legacy by talking like a small man
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niyi wrote:No disrespect and I hate to go off-topic but you support Trump. It's never racism to youThe real deal wrote:
Sergio belongs in a La masia generation we will come to miss in a few years. If Spain win the WC again ( Which i quietly predict they will), watch out for Busquets. For Yaya, be quiet, you are a great player........Do not tarnish your legacy by talking like a small man
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Not sure if I need to rephrase. Busquets is better than Yaya at the position, HOW Busquets got into the team doesn't matter.Kabalega wrote:Not true!platinum wrote:Oh boy, here we go again with Yaya Toure.
No case here, at this stage of his career, the guys who played this last season are better than him. When he was moved on at Barca, the guys who played were better then.
Yaya went to the African Nation's cup and Busquets stepped up to fill the void.
When Yaya came back, Pep didn't want to change a winning team, plus Busquets is Catalan.
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cic old boy wrote:Pep could hate Africans, but Keita's mama won't start him b/4 Xavi and Iniesta.danfo driver wrote:
Yes! defend your master! how dare these useless Africans speak ill of the master! How much of a starter was Seydou? and how many Africans has Pep purchased? he has coached 3 teams.
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He’s in camp at the moment sirwale1974 wrote:What is he doing at the moment with Leicester City?maceo4 wrote:What’s new...see how the guy shipped off Kele even with his stats.
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Re: Pep Guardiola ‘does not like African Players" - Yaya Tou
The ones who have worked closely with him are telling you the business and we outsiders are here arguing.mouko wrote:not very surprised...Eto once said same thing...
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The real deal wrote:Guys, let us be careful with throwing some names ard. I'm a Barca fan and big admirer of Pep. I have to admit that there's a general DISRESPECT for African talents.....won't go as far to generalize to racism though....... Busquets is better than YAYA, period! As Cruyff said " You don't see busquets if you saw the game, but if you watch Busquets, then you can see the game"! Dude is the best I've ever seen in that position. Please pay close attention to Busqets next time he plays. I don't see anything fantastic that Gabriel Jesus brings to the table to jettison Kelechi for him. Dude isn't nothing spectacular, period! There's a general bias of coaches adapting tactics to bring out the best in certain players and Brazilian players benefit the most from that....Coaches play to their strenght all the time
Can't complete this without talking about Eto'o......I have mad respect for Eto....he could have been less confrontational....but still love him. The likes of Umtiti and Song came to Barca given what Sam did
Did you just compare Gabby Jesus to kele? Ok whatever
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Re: Pep Guardiola ‘does not like African Players" - Yaya Tou
Wole you just compared Busquets to Nicky Butt, really?have seen Busquet play plenty of time and for me, he is like Nicky Butt - an unremarkable but effective player among great
I’m no fan of Barca but this is more about your head no dey house
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Re: Pep Guardiola ‘does not like African Players" - Yaya Tou
but but but... Yaya is an age cheat, Eto'o is known for being cantankerous, kele has failed at Leicester... but but but.. Mama Keita is an ashawo.... but but but lets wait for more evidence before we say anything against the Massa.... the Africans are demons.. wait! but but but...maceo4 wrote:The ones who have worked closely with him are telling you the business and we outsiders are here arguing.mouko wrote:not very surprised...Eto once said same thing...
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Re: Pep Guardiola ‘does not like African Players" - Yaya Tou
Funny enough, the ones that are usually closest to Africans are usually the most racist: Italians, Spanish...