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blah blah blah blah

When is the interesting part. :rotf:

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I am watching the Congress live on FIFA TV online. A big difference between the two presentation is the gender and age diversity in the United bid compared to Morocco which was simply adult males. Stark difference which I hope does not affect voting.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR308Yr8tsg

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:53 am 
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USA/Canada/Mexico just won the BID!!!! Congratulations



UNITED BID = 134 votes
MOROCCO BID = 65 votes
NONE BID = 1
INELIGIBLE = 7

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Yuck!
Can’t believe the world katowed to Trump’s threats...
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USA/Canada/Mexico just won the BID!!!! Congratulations

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USA wins :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :clap: :clap: :clap:

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How each country voted on Fifa.com website.

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Otitokoro wrote:
Yuck!
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USA/Canada/Mexico just won the BID!!!! Congratulations

I believe they have a way better package. A vote for Morocco over the United bid would have been a bit sentimental. In the end this was the right choice.

Sometimes you just ignore a baby’s tantrum and do the right thing.

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Cito wrote:
Otitokoro wrote:
Yuck!
Can’t believe the world katowed to Trump’s threats...
Enugu II wrote:
USA/Canada/Mexico just won the BID!!!! Congratulations

I believe they have a way better package. A vote for Morocco over the United bid would have been a bit sentimental. In the end this was the right choice.

Sometimes you just ignore a baby’s tantrum and do the right thing.


Agreed. Watching both bid presentations and then the FIFA analysis, USA/Mexico/Canada simply had the better case.

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Very good! Ando no to a country that wanted to join the E.U and withdraw from hosting 2015 cup of nations in fear of Ebola.

:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:


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Benedict Iroha wrote:
Very good! Ando no to a country that wanted to join the E.U and withdraw from hosting 2015 world cup in fear of Ebola.

:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:


TBH, in terms of presentation aesthetics, it was a beat down of Morocco. It was not even close, IMO.

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A 48 team world cup will be terrible.


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The FIFA bid evaluation documentation can be reviewed here:

https://resources.fifa.com/image/upload/bid-evaluation-report-2026-fifa-world-cuptm.pdf?cloudid=ir3g14juxglqbbteevvf

Regulations found here:

https://www.fifa.com/worldcup/news/2026-fifa-world-cup-bid-books-now-available

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Synopsis wrote:
A 48 team world cup will be terrible.

For the DNQers maybe but to the countries in it , nah!

On a serious note, it is just the same with about 8 plus crappy games added to the current number.

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Cito wrote:
Synopsis wrote:
A 48 team world cup will be terrible.

For the DNQers maybe but to the countries in it , nah!

On a serious note, it is just the same with about 8 plus crappy games added to the current number.

16 groups of 3 is a recipe for collusion.


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United States, Mexico, Canada Beat Morocco to Be Named Hosts of 2026 World Cup
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The joint bid of the United States, Mexico and Canada has won the right to host the 2026 FIFA World Cup, beating Morocco in Wednesday's vote.

BBC Journalist Richard Conway confirmed the news:



Meanwhile, Fox Soccer celebrated:




http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2780 ... -world-cup

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Cito wrote:
Otitokoro wrote:
Yuck!
Can’t believe the world katowed to Trump’s threats...
Enugu II wrote:
USA/Canada/Mexico just won the BID!!!! Congratulations

I believe they have a way better package. A vote for Morocco over the United bid would have been a bit sentimental. In the end this was the right choice.

Sometimes you just ignore a baby’s tantrum and do the right thing.

:agree: :agree: :agree:

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Cito wrote:
Synopsis wrote:
A 48 team world cup will be terrible.

For the DNQers maybe but to the countries in it , nah!

On a serious note, it is just the same with about 8 plus crappy games added to the current number.



Cito,

There will not be crappy games. Think about this -- if we had 48 team WC this year you may have the following participating:

Italy
Ghana
Chile
USA
Holland
I/Coast
Paraguay
Wales
Austria
N/Ireland
Ukraine
Congo DR
Greece
Cameroon
Jamaica
Burkina Faso

*Note, I have not used actual berths designed for qualification from Confederations. This is just to note countries capable of playing now in the World Cup and there are more.

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Enugu II wrote:
USA/Canada/Mexico just won the BID!!!! Congratulations



UNITED BID = 134 votes
MOROCCO BID = 65 votes
NONE BID = 1
INELIGIBLE = 7
...looks like it was a no brainer.
3 western countries vs one 3rd world.
The infrastructures, logistics, and managements are there.
Plus by then the current USA politics of hate to foreigners must have ebbed.


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Benedict Iroha wrote:
Very good! Ando no to a country that wanted to join the E.U and withdraw from hosting 2015 world cup in fear of Ebola.

:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

Hmm, I agree with you; therefore, I think it's a good thing Morocco lost the bid.

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Enugu II wrote:
Cito wrote:
Synopsis wrote:
A 48 team world cup will be terrible.

For the DNQers maybe but to the countries in it , nah!

On a serious note, it is just the same with about 8 plus crappy games added to the current number.



Cito,

There will not be crappy games. Think about this -- if we had 48 team WC this year you may have the following participating:

Italy
Ghana
Chile
USA
Holland
I/Coast
Paraguay
Wales
Austria
N/Ireland
Ukraine
Congo DR
Greece
Cameroon
Jamaica
Burkina Faso

*Note, I have not used actual berths designed for qualification from Confederations. This is just to note countries capable of playing now in the World Cup and there are more.

This is not true.
Ghana wouldn’t have made it - Uganda finished ahead of them in qualifying. Cameroon wouldn’t have been in too.
Syria, United Arab Emirates, New Zealand, and possibly Solomon Islands would have made it over some of the teams you listed.


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Otitokoro wrote:
Yuck!
Can’t believe the world katowed to Trump’s threats...
Enugu II wrote:
USA/Canada/Mexico just won the BID!!!! Congratulations
...the world knew Trump would be gone, in jail by then. You wanna hurt Trump, do something now that will hurt him not 8-10 years from now.


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