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Way too passive to win a game at the World Cup

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:59 pm
by mystic
Not good enough. If we're not going to be more aggressive offensively we'll be heading home early. Rohr has got to change his approach.

Re: Way too passive to win a game at the World Cup

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:02 pm
by Goldleaf
Those boys do not look physically fit. The Croatians played in 2nd gear comfortably and were still far more athletic, stronger and powerful. We were falling over the ball. Victor Moses is a complete disgrace diving all over the place. Mikel looked like he is closing to 60 years old. By the time he turned, the croatians just took the ball easily from him.

Re: Way too passive to win a game at the World Cup

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:04 pm
by niyi
Welcome back mystic

Re: Way too passive to win a game at the World Cup

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:07 pm
by oscar52
The more reason why you don't hire a journeyman coach without much coaching success to coach your national team. He was fired from Etoile because the GM says the players were showing a lack discipline under him like what Ekong did today.

Re: Way too passive to win a game at the World Cup

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:18 pm
by TonyTheTigerKiller
I’ve been giving Rohr the benefit of the doubt but it’s difficult to go on making excuses for him. He needs to redeem himself by overhauling this team. Uzoho, Ekong, Etebo and Idowu need to be confined to the bench. Ighalo, what can I say? 73 minutes and not one credible shot on goal. Rohr better start Nacho in the next game; and bench Moses if he continues with his useless, wasteful antics :!:


Cheers.

Re: Way too passive to win a game at the World Cup

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:23 pm
by oscar52
TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:I’ve been giving Rohr the benefit of the doubt but it’s difficult to go on making excuses for him. He needs to redeem himself by overhauling this team. Ekong, Etebo and Idowu need to be confined to the bench. Ighalo, what can I say? 73 minutes and not one credible shot on goal. Rohr better start Nacho in the next game; and bench Moses if he continues with his useless, wasteful antics :!:


Cheers.
You have a coach that thinks his teams are inferior to almost every European team and you want him to be motivated to make needed changes? This coach does not know his players and quite frankly does not have any tactical plan. He sole criteria seem to be that they must be playing week in week out at theur club and not be playing in Nigeria. I say its time to give him the pink slip.

Re: Way too passive to win a game at the World Cup

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:34 pm
by zee
mystic wrote:Not good enough. If we're not going to be more aggressive offensively we'll be heading home early. Rohr has got to change his approach.
It is your normal German approach at the WC with African teams.....................Schäfer destroyed a VERY TALENTED Camerounian team at 2002 WC.
German coaches believe that teams with players playing in top teams are supposed and will always defeat teams with 'normal' players.
If we had a German coach in 1994..........Bulgaria would have blown us away.

Re: Way too passive to win a game at the World Cup

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:36 pm
by zee
Goldleaf wrote:Those boys do not look physically fit. The Croatians played in 2nd gear comfortably and were still far more athletic, stronger and powerful. We were falling over the ball. Victor Moses is a complete disgrace diving all over the place. Mikel looked like he is closing to 60 years old. By the time he turned, the croatians just took the ball easily from him.
Nonsense and BS analysis............it's all on the Coach.

Re: Way too passive to win a game at the World Cup

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:39 pm
by marutimon
TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:I’ve been giving Rohr the benefit of the doubt but it’s difficult to go on making excuses for him. He needs to redeem himself by overhauling this team. Uzoho, Ekong, Etebo and Idowu need to be confined to the bench. Ighalo, what can I say? 73 minutes and not one credible shot on goal. Rohr better start Nacho in the next game; and bench Moses if he continues with his useless, wasteful antics :!:


Cheers.
What game were you watching if you want to confine Uzoho and Etebo to the bench?

Re: Way too passive to win a game at the World Cup

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:40 pm
by EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA
marutimon wrote:
TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:I’ve been giving Rohr the benefit of the doubt but it’s difficult to go on making excuses for him. He needs to redeem himself by overhauling this team. Uzoho, Ekong, Etebo and Idowu need to be confined to the bench. Ighalo, what can I say? 73 minutes and not one credible shot on goal. Rohr better start Nacho in the next game; and bench Moses if he continues with his useless, wasteful antics :!:


Cheers.
What game were you watching if you want to confine Uzoho and Etebo to the bench?

:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

Re: Way too passive to win a game at the World Cup

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:43 pm
by Kabalega
marutimon wrote:
TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:I’ve been giving Rohr the benefit of the doubt but it’s difficult to go on making excuses for him. He needs to redeem himself by overhauling this team. Uzoho, Ekong, Etebo and Idowu need to be confined to the bench. Ighalo, what can I say? 73 minutes and not one credible shot on goal. Rohr better start Nacho in the next game; and bench Moses if he continues with his useless, wasteful antics :!:


Cheers.
What game were you watching if you want to confine Uzoho and Etebo to the bench?
I wonder what some people are smoking.

Re: Way too passive to win a game at the World Cup

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:46 pm
by Coach
Croatia played 4-2-4, Nigeria had numerical advantage in midfield and acres of space infront of the opposing fullback, the product of which was Victor Moses doing his best Ashley Young impersonation. Not a drop of thought went into our play, absolutely pathetic.

Re: Way too passive to win a game at the World Cup

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:46 pm
by maceo4
TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:I’ve been giving Rohr the benefit of the doubt but it’s difficult to go on making excuses for him. He needs to redeem himself by overhauling this team. Uzoho, Ekong, Etebo and Idowu need to be confined to the bench. Ighalo, what can I say? 73 minutes and not one credible shot on goal. Rohr better start Nacho in the next game; and bench Moses if he continues with his useless, wasteful antics :!:


Cheers.
Na wa that’s a lot of changes, I don’t see that happening but the Ighalo experiment has to end at some point, I think now is as good as any.

Re: Way too passive to win a game at the World Cup

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:46 pm
by niyi
Kabalega wrote:
marutimon wrote:
TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:I’ve been giving Rohr the benefit of the doubt but it’s difficult to go on making excuses for him. He needs to redeem himself by overhauling this team. Uzoho, Ekong, Etebo and Idowu need to be confined to the bench. Ighalo, what can I say? 73 minutes and not one credible shot on goal. Rohr better start Nacho in the next game; and bench Moses if he continues with his useless, wasteful antics :!:


Cheers.
What game were you watching if you want to confine Uzoho and Etebo to the bench?
I wonder what some people are smoking.
Don't be mean... he's not smoking anything. But i can confirm that tonythetamponlicker is licking tampons

Re: Way too passive to win a game at the World Cup

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:52 pm
by Mr Shows
We have been struggling to create chances and are too flat in the final 3rd. It all pivots on playing Mikel in the AM role.

Our strongest formation in 3-5-2, play Ndidi and Mikel in the DF position and let Iwobi play the creative AM role. Nacho who can feed of Iwobi's movement needs to play. Bench Ighalo..

Re: Way too passive to win a game at the World Cup

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:53 pm
by Mr Shows
Just to add. Ebuehi needs to play to add more offensive play from the flanks...Bench Shehu

Re: Way too passive to win a game at the World Cup

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:55 pm
by cchinukw
I hope you guys can appreciate our local coaches more.

Re: Way too passive to win a game at the World Cup

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:04 pm
by joao
marutimon wrote:
TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:I’ve been giving Rohr the benefit of the doubt but it’s difficult to go on making excuses for him. He needs to redeem himself by overhauling this team. Uzoho, Ekong, Etebo and Idowu need to be confined to the bench. Ighalo, what can I say? 73 minutes and not one credible shot on goal. Rohr better start Nacho in the next game; and bench Moses if he continues with his useless, wasteful antics :!:


Cheers.
What game were you watching if you want to confine Uzoho and Etebo to the bench?
Thanks for seeing through the unreasonable argument.
Uzoho for who else, and Etebo for Onazi?
Talk about comedic arguments. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Way too passive to win a game at the World Cup

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:15 am
by greg
joao wrote:
marutimon wrote:
TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:I’ve been giving Rohr the benefit of the doubt but it’s difficult to go on making excuses for him. He needs to redeem himself by overhauling this team. Uzoho, Ekong, Etebo and Idowu need to be confined to the bench. Ighalo, what can I say? 73 minutes and not one credible shot on goal. Rohr better start Nacho in the next game; and bench Moses if he continues with his useless, wasteful antics :!:


Cheers.
What game were you watching if you want to confine Uzoho and Etebo to the bench?
Thanks for seeing through the unreasonable argument.
Uzoho for who else, and Etebo for Onazi?
Talk about comedic arguments. :lol: :lol: :lol:
We should just look at some of the threads here as venting threads and not really as any constructive comments or suggestions. Venting is allowed and therapeutic at this time.

Re: Way too passive to win a game at the World Cup

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:27 am
by charlie
greg wrote:
joao wrote:
marutimon wrote:
TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:I’ve been giving Rohr the benefit of the doubt but it’s difficult to go on making excuses for him. He needs to redeem himself by overhauling this team. Uzoho, Ekong, Etebo and Idowu need to be confined to the bench. Ighalo, what can I say? 73 minutes and not one credible shot on goal. Rohr better start Nacho in the next game; and bench Moses if he continues with his useless, wasteful antics :!:


Cheers.
What game were you watching if you want to confine Uzoho and Etebo to the bench?
Thanks for seeing through the unreasonable argument.
Uzoho for who else, and Etebo for Onazi?
Talk about comedic arguments. :lol: :lol: :lol:
We should just look at some of the threads here as venting threads and not really as any constructive comments or suggestions. Venting is allowed and therapeutic at this time.
wise words

Re: Way too passive to win a game at the World Cup

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:32 am
by Kneedeep
Welcome back!

Re: Way too passive to win a game at the World Cup

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:14 am
by metalalloy
maceo4 wrote:
TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:I’ve been giving Rohr the benefit of the doubt but it’s difficult to go on making excuses for him. He needs to redeem himself by overhauling this team. Uzoho, Ekong, Etebo and Idowu need to be confined to the bench. Ighalo, what can I say? 73 minutes and not one credible shot on goal. Rohr better start Nacho in the next game; and bench Moses if he continues with his useless, wasteful antics :!:


Cheers.
Na wa that’s a lot of changes, I don’t see that happening but the Ighalo experiment has to end at some point, I think now is as good as any.
Not necessarily. Its very difficult to blame him totally for the lack of support behind him. Re-watch how Croatia played with their target men. they knocked down ball after ball for runners from the midfield to shoot at goal. Mikel as much as he is trying just isnt playing close enough to Ighalo. The long balls to him are not accurate enough either and considering his height, i doubt that's the best way to utilize him. If they insist on going that route, Simi might actually be a better option for him.

Personally, i think we need to ditch this super restrictive formation that we are playing. We don't have the players to break down teams. Also, it is almost criminal that they still can not defend corner kicks. One disappointing player for me today was Etebo, he had an ok game but played with his wings clipped. Time and time again, he turned back and passed the ball back to his CB.

Re: Way too passive to win a game at the World Cup

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:18 am
by niyi
metalalloy wrote:
maceo4 wrote:
TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:I’ve been giving Rohr the benefit of the doubt but it’s difficult to go on making excuses for him. He needs to redeem himself by overhauling this team. Uzoho, Ekong, Etebo and Idowu need to be confined to the bench. Ighalo, what can I say? 73 minutes and not one credible shot on goal. Rohr better start Nacho in the next game; and bench Moses if he continues with his useless, wasteful antics :!:


Cheers.
Na wa that’s a lot of changes, I don’t see that happening but the Ighalo experiment has to end at some point, I think now is as good as any.
Not necessarily. Its very difficult to blame him totally for the lack of support behind him. Re-watch how Croatia played with their target men. they knocked down ball after ball for runners from the midfield to shoot at goal. Mikel as much as he is trying just isnt playing close enough to Ighalo. The long balls to him are not accurate enough either and considering his height, i doubt that's the best way to utilize him. If they insist on going that route, Simi might actually be a better option for him.

Personally, i think we need to ditch this super restrictive formation that we are playing. We don't have the players to break down teams. Also, it is almost criminal that they still can not defend corner kicks. One disappointing player for me today was Etebo, he had an ok game but played with his wings clipped. Time and time again, he turned back and passed the ball back to his CB.
Wasn't his fault...no runners ahead of him. I've seen him take initiative and drive through the midfield but he's understandably being cautious in a world cup game.