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What was the tactical reason for subbing out Iwobi?

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In all the friendlies leading up to the WC Iwobi was the player who tried to set up the team's attacking moves and was very effective as the creative midfielder more than as a winger where he was often set up to start. I was surprised to see him come off for Musa in the second half and can only conclude he either had a knock that curtailed his impact or he played to instruction thereby limiting his effectiveness. I personally believe taking Iwobi off was a mistake since Mikel was not stamping his authority on the match and Iwobi could have been moved in centrally to dictate the match.
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...Iwobi was the only or one of the very few spark we had yesterday.
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Maybe to rest him? Hope that doesn't sound silly.
He may still prove important/key player in our next matches.
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Was a bit shocked, the man should have bene moved to the midfield and let mikel drop deep
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kendo wrote:Maybe to rest him? Hope that doesn't sound silly.
He may still prove important/key player in our next matches.
Rest for what? Is he not a professional footballer? In a world cup where we are not expected to play more than 4 matches and where matches are well spaced out? That can't be the reason. Rohr just got confused & cowardly tried to play safe. He didn't learn anything from watching his own team over the past 1 year. His team can do way better than they did yesterday. Anyone that says otherwise was just adopting a pedestrian approach to rationalize yesterday's disgraceful performance.
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Its a Goal wrote:In all the friendlies leading up to the WC Iwobi was the player who tried to set up the team's attacking moves and was very effective as the creative midfielder more than as a winger where he was often set up to start. I was surprised to see him come off for Musa in the second half and can only conclude he either had a knock that curtailed his impact or he played to instruction thereby limiting his effectiveness. I personally believe taking Iwobi off was a mistake since Mikel was not stamping his authority on the match and Iwobi could have been moved in centrally to dictate the match.

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Dumb coaching.
Poor world cup player selection.
Continuing with dragging the wrong players along.
Bad criteria for players training invitation.
Net effect is leading our football into regression.

Result should be a pink slip to the coach.
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Oguleftie wrote:Dumb coaching.
Poor world cup player selection.
Continuing with dragging the wrong players along.
Bad criteria for players training invitation.
Net effect is leading our football into regression.

Result should be a pink slip to the coach.
Incompetents means the coach did what he knows best , pick the wrong players because they helped him qualify .

I can’t think of any other reason why he keeps playing Igahlo when simmy and Kelechi are on the bench, why allow mikel play AM, when iwobi can do it with speed and pace.

It is either a sabotage or incompetence, am really confused . Hopefully he is told to leave. And get a coach that understands wha he needs to do.
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I’ve had to answer this question a few times now...and all I can say is that based on my stadium view, it wasn’t a bad sub. Iwobi looked a bit tired and lost before he was subbed. TV may not capture this, but watching the whole field and positioning on and off the ball, I’d say it was a reasonable sub.
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Protecting a goal deficit I guess :?
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No idea????????????
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akamoke wrote:Protecting a goal deficit I guess :?
With a winger?

By the wy, I saw Alex defending our goal area more than a few times. :twisted:
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Iwobi was tired and to be honest, must like the rest of them, made little impact on the game.
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The only way Rohr can revive himself is to throw caution to the wind and get us back to our attacking ways, but this is highly dependent on how fit the players are, and if they are not, why not?
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[color=brown]deanotito[/color] wrote: I’ve had to answer this question a few times now...and all I can say is that based on my stadium view, it wasn’t a bad sub. Iwobi looked a bit tired and lost before he was subbed. TV may not capture this, but watching the whole field and positioning on and off the ball, I’d say it was a reasonable sub.
I noticed he was out of the picture in the 2nd half but could it be a result of him playing out of position? Switching things up could have made him more effective. Footballers playing at this level, especially at Iwobi's age, don't get tired physically but mentally.
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Its a Goal wrote:
[color=brown]deanotito[/color] wrote: I’ve had to answer this question a few times now...and all I can say is that based on my stadium view, it wasn’t a bad sub. Iwobi looked a bit tired and lost before he was subbed. TV may not capture this, but watching the whole field and positioning on and off the ball, I’d say it was a reasonable sub.
I noticed he was out of the picture in the 2nd half but could it be a result of him playing out of position? Switching things up could have made him more effective. Footballers playing at this level, especially at Iwobi's age, don't get tired physically but mentally.
But that is where the coach is needed. Not so?
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He said he wanted to rest the players for the next game
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Rohr said Iwobi was tired from all the work he did on both sides of the ball.
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Resting him.
I knew it. Tbh, Iwobi was one of the only few starting IX I saw play decently.
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Bringing on Musa was the right choice, but at that point I would have taken taken off Ndidi or Mikel instead and moved Iwobi to a more central position.
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I think Rohr mentioned that Iwobi was tired because he had to do a lot of defending.

Every Arsenal fan knows that Iwobi tires easily and lasts about 75 minutes or so.

Iwobi is always substituted late in games at Arsenal because of fatigue.

The real shame is why Rohr did not start him at AM from the start.

It would have been a different game.
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olu wrote:Bringing on Musa was the right choice, but at that point I would have taken taken off Ndidi or Mikel instead and moved Iwobi to a more central position.
I am NOT defending coach Rohr, but perhaps someone should tell the coach to play his players in their NATURAL playing positions and let them loose against Iceland. What do we have to lose?
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akamoke wrote:The only way Rohr can revive himself is to throw caution to the wind and get us back to our attacking ways, but this is highly dependent on how fit the players are, and if they are not, why not?
Not when you have a striker who has not scored in like 7 matches and a 19year old keeper who is 3rd choice for his low level club!

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