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Re: Countries supporting their teams in Russia
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:36 am
by aruako1
Undertaker wrote:The Nigerian fans turnout in Kaliningrad was indeed very poor. There were Croatian fans everywhere you look.... I must have taken over 1000 pictures with Russian and Croatian fans because there wasn't many Nigerian there to begin with. The Croatians took over the city and too over the match! We Nigerians are all mouth no action. There is no reason for us to have that little support at the stadium on Saturday night! It was the dam World cup! Come out and rep your country!
Mexico had over 40,000 fans at the stadium in Moscow last night. Are Mexican economically better than Nigerian?
Thank you ojare! We no come see you. Will you be in St Petersburg?
Re: Countries supporting their teams in Russia
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:38 am
by tmex12
Undertaker wrote:The Nigerian fans turnout in Kaliningrad was indeed very poor. There were Croatian fans everywhere you look.... I must have taken over 1000 pictures with Russian and Croatian fans because there wasn't many Nigerian there to begin with. The Croatians took over the city and too over the match! We Nigerians are all mouth no action. There is no reason for us to have that little support at the stadium on Saturday night! It was the dam World cup! Come out and rep your country!
Mexico had over 40,000 fans at the stadium in Moscow last night. Are Mexican economically better than Nigerian?
Come on don’t insult Mexico. Per capital income is >4x Nigeria’s. Mexico has its issues but the Northern half the country is quite developed with integrated supply chains to the US.
They are a 2nd World country. Nigeria will be 4th world if that designation exist
Re: Countries supporting their teams in Russia
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:43 am
by Tbite
tmex12 wrote:Undertaker wrote:The Nigerian fans turnout in Kaliningrad was indeed very poor. There were Croatian fans everywhere you look.... I must have taken over 1000 pictures with Russian and Croatian fans because there wasn't many Nigerian there to begin with. The Croatians took over the city and too over the match! We Nigerians are all mouth no action. There is no reason for us to have that little support at the stadium on Saturday night! It was the dam World cup! Come out and rep your country!
Mexico had over 40,000 fans at the stadium in Moscow last night. Are Mexican economically better than Nigerian?
Come on don’t insult Mexico. Per capital income is >4x Nigeria’s. Mexico has its issues but the Northern half the country is quite developed with integrated supply chains to the US.
They are a 2nd World country. Nigeria will be 4th world if that designation exist
1st world, third world etc. are nonsensical terms that do not mean anything in this day and age, I think social-media is responsible for the continued usage of what should be considered archaic terms.
Use real terms that mean something. 1st world, third world etc. do not mean the things people assume they mean. Developed, Developing, Emerging, Industrialized, Newly Industrialized, High Income, Low Income, Middle Income etc. These are real acceptable terms.
Re: Countries supporting their teams in Russia
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:57 am
by Undertaker
aruako1 wrote:Undertaker wrote:The Nigerian fans turnout in Kaliningrad was indeed very poor. There were Croatian fans everywhere you look.... I must have taken over 1000 pictures with Russian and Croatian fans because there wasn't many Nigerians there to begin with. The Croatians took over the city and too over the match! We Nigerians are all mouth no action. There is no reason for us to have that little support at the stadium on Saturday night! It was the dam World cup! Come out and rep your country!
Mexico had over 40,000 fans at the stadium in Moscow last night. Are Mexican economically better than Nigerian?
Thank you ojare! We no come see you. Will you be in St Petersburg?
Yes, I will be in St. Petersburg. I ended up not getting to Kaliningrad until 2pm Match day. I got screwed by the Coach bus company that I prepaid for and was supposed to take me to Kaliningrad to Gdansk June 15th. They no showed on Friday and I end up traveling with another company on Saturday Morning at 6am. That boarder crossing was another story. I am chilling in Moscow for now.... off to Volgograd on Friday and then St. Petersburg on Saturday
Re: Countries supporting their teams in Russia
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:18 am
by marko
Reason why i used the term 3rd world is because that what western nations makes everyone believe, Brazil hosted a sucessful world cup and olympics, surely a 3rd world nation cannot handle that type of event, Mexico seems to be a highly developed nation, their tourism sector is world class and worth several billions, even Costa Rica, they are in Russia in numbers
Re: Countries supporting their teams in Russia
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:36 am
by Ekorian
The proximity gave them an edge IMO. Croatia is a driving distance to Russia so what were you guys expecting. If Canada is hosting the World cup, it is expected to see more Americans there or if Ghana is the host, Nigerians will troop there in massive numbers...
Re: Countries supporting their teams in Russia
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:45 am
by metalalloy
Re: Countries supporting their teams in Russia
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:46 am
by metalalloy
kajifu wrote:Visa issues,most African countries get denied visa.
Secondly those countries like Mexico get support from their government when you sign up to go to world cup.
normal visa requirenents are waived for the world cup
Re: Countries supporting their teams in Russia
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:49 am
by metalalloy
marko wrote:One thing i have noticed is, there are many 3rd world countries or at least so they tell us at the world cup with a lot of support, Costa Rica, Mexico, Brazil, Panama, they are well represented in the stadiums, where do they get the money to travel to Russia, how comes we Africans cannot afford to travel to Russia, is it poverty? Or am i missing something here?
We don't even fill nations cup stadiums when they are played in our countries and you expect people to actually make an effort to travel to go support the teams?
football forums are bubbles, the level of interest in the rest of the countries is not as fervent. Most pay lip service to how much they are interested in football.
Re: Countries supporting their teams in Russia
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:09 pm
by aruako1
Ekorian wrote:The proximity gave them an edge IMO. Croatia is a driving distance to Russia so what were you guys expecting. If Canada is hosting the World cup, it is expected to see more Americans there or if Ghana is the host, Nigerians will troop there in massive numbers...
I didn't expect us to out number the Croatians but given our numbers in Europe we didn't have enough fans.
Re: Countries supporting their teams in Russia
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:22 pm
by metalalloy
aruako1 wrote:Ekorian wrote:The proximity gave them an edge IMO. Croatia is a driving distance to Russia so what were you guys expecting. If Canada is hosting the World cup, it is expected to see more Americans there or if Ghana is the host, Nigerians will troop there in massive numbers...
I didn't expect us to out number the Croatians
but given our numbers in Europe we didn't have enough fans.
We never do. Even for friendlies that are in England, how many times do we have fans that are a quater the size of the opponents?
Re: Countries supporting their teams in Russia
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:25 pm
by aruako1
metalalloy wrote:aruako1 wrote:Ekorian wrote:The proximity gave them an edge IMO. Croatia is a driving distance to Russia so what were you guys expecting. If Canada is hosting the World cup, it is expected to see more Americans there or if Ghana is the host, Nigerians will troop there in massive numbers...
I didn't expect us to out number the Croatians
but given our numbers in Europe we didn't have enough fans.
We never do. Even for friendlies that are in England, how many times do we have fans that are a quater the size of the opponents?
That is the point. We are all noise; less effort.
Re: Countries supporting their teams in Russia
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:03 pm
by cic old boy
Ebyboy wrote:
Mexico’s economy is three times the size Nigeria’s.
Brazil laps us almost five times. These guys are not our
mates.
Those countries are a lot higher than Nigeria on the human development index, lower poverty rates, etc. Nigerians in Nigeria that can afford to go to Russia are probably not more than 2% and that well-off 2% have other priorities, including paying millions of naira for private education for their kids.
I know Nigerians in the UK were put off going to Russia by racism, Foreign Office warnings, etc. The prediction is that the numbers of England fans are going to be less than usual.
Re: Countries supporting their teams in Russia
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:06 pm
by cic old boy
By the way, I remember Manure playing Pompey in Abuja Stadium and it was full. Manure is a bigger draw in Naija than the SE.
Re: Countries supporting their teams in Russia
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:08 pm
by aruako1
cic old boy wrote:Ebyboy wrote:
Mexico’s economy is three times the size Nigeria’s.
Brazil laps us almost five times. These guys are not our
mates.
Those countries are a lot higher than Nigeria on the human development index, lower poverty rates, etc. Nigerians in Nigeria that can afford to go to Russia are probably not more than 2% and that well-off 2% have other priorities, including paying millions of naira for private education for their kids.
I know Nigerians in the UK were put off going to Russia by racism, Foreign Office warnings, etc. The prediction is that the numbers of England fans are going to be less than usual.
I wasn't expecting Nigerians from Nigeria as I understand that there is a big economic factor at play. But we have a well educated population of Nigerians in the UK who should have seen through the negative reports. Besides are these not the same people who cannot come to Barnet to watch the SE. Are the KKK or National Front based in Barnet?
Re: Countries supporting their teams in Russia
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:16 pm
by cchinukw
Ekorian wrote:We go to Saudi for pilgrmage by thousands every year. You have to promise something everlasting or hell fire consequence for us to take the trip seriously.
Well, if your destination is perceived as the flaming fires of hades, that is disincentive enough.
Even the English have just over 2000 fans or so.
Re: Countries supporting their teams in Russia
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:28 pm
by folem
cic old boy wrote:By the way, I remember Manure playing Pompey in Abuja Stadium and it was full. Manure is a bigger draw in Naija than the SE.
You mean empty?
http://www.goal.com/en/news/89/africa/2 ... 1-in-abuja
http://achronicleofabuja.blogspot.com/2 ... abuja.html
Re: Countries supporting their teams in Russia
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:30 pm
by ogiso
If you are waiting for Nigerians in Europe to just individually book tickets to a tournament you go wait tire. But market and package things professionally, I can assure you they will respond. For example design a package that guarantees that Naija fans will sit together- that will be an attractive package to Nigerians in Europe. Nigerians do respond to good marketing. Wembley two weekends ago is a good example, but unfortunately the English FA did most of the work. This is a business opportunity for someone if we make it to Qatar.
Re: Countries supporting their teams in Russia
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:38 pm
by aruako1
ogiso wrote:If you are waiting for Nigerians in Europe to just individually book tickets to a tournament you go wait tire. But market and package things professionally, I can assure you they will respond. For example design a package that guarantees that Naija fans will sit together- that will be an attractive package to Nigerians in Europe. Nigerians do respond to good marketing. Wembley two weekends ago is a good example, but unfortunately the English FA did most of the work. This is a business opportunity for someone if we make it to Qatar.
If they can't book tickets then they shouldn't vex when we call them out for bitching.
Re: Countries supporting their teams in Russia
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:48 pm
by mouko
marko wrote:One thing i have noticed is, there are many 3rd world countries or at least so they tell us at the world cup with a lot of support, Costa Rica, Mexico, Brazil, Panama, they are well represented in the stadiums, where do they get the money to travel to Russia, how comes we Africans cannot afford to travel to Russia, is it poverty? Or am i missing something here?
Per capita income is higher in these countries than any Africa country bar South Africa.
Re: Countries supporting their teams in Russia
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:51 pm
by mouko
akamoke wrote:kajifu wrote:Visa issues,most African countries get denied visa.
Secondly those countries like Mexico get support from their government when you sign up to go to world cup.
Actually if you have a ticket to the games you dont need a visa to Russia
No excuses whatsoever,
I keep repeating this comment to emphasize a point, during the WC 2010, we were outnumbered like 12 to 1 by the sea of blue in the match against Argentina, in Africa
No excuses
Akamoke...did you go?
Re: Countries supporting their teams in Russia
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:00 pm
by mouko
Undertaker wrote:The Nigerian fans turnout in Kaliningrad was indeed very poor. There were Croatian fans everywhere you look.... I must have taken over 1000 pictures with Russian and Croatian fans because there wasn't many Nigerians there to begin with. The Croatians took over the city and too over the match! We Nigerians are all mouth no action. There is no reason for us to have that little support at the stadium on Saturday night! It was the dam World cup! Come out and rep your country!
Mexico had over 40,000 fans at the stadium in Moscow last night. Are Mexican economically better than Nigerians?
Yep...about twice....the reason Mexico is dwarfed is because of the US at it's border. Beats every African economy.
Re: Countries supporting their teams in Russia
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:00 pm
by marko
Even Tunisia were there in their hundreds