Africa so far, so SHAMEFUL
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Africa so far, so SHAMEFUL
Africa needs Ghana
Not since Zaire's 9-0 loss to Yugoslavia have we been represented by such a useless batch of countries
(except Naija. I have to say this or else I might be banned from the forum)
Not since Zaire's 9-0 loss to Yugoslavia have we been represented by such a useless batch of countries
(except Naija. I have to say this or else I might be banned from the forum)
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Re: Africa so far: 1 Win 5 Loses; 3 Goals
... and Ghana will still not be allowed to smell the grass in Russia whether they like am or not!
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Re: Africa so far: 1 Win 5 Loses; 3 Goals
DNQ dey good ooooo
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Re: Africa so far: 1 Win 5 Loses; 3 Goals
Oga, stay on topicgreen4life wrote:... and Ghana will still not be allowed to smell the grass in Russia whether they like am or not!
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Massa, don't worry. They will soon sing your anthem in Russia. You hear?Rawlings wrote:Oga, stay on topicgreen4life wrote:... and Ghana will still not be allowed to smell the grass in Russia whether they like am or not!
Re: Africa so far: 1 Win 5 Loses; 3 Goals
Now back to the topic at hand .....green4life wrote:Massa, don't worry. They will soon sing your anthem in Russia. You hear?Rawlings wrote:Oga, stay on topicgreen4life wrote:... and Ghana will still not be allowed to smell the grass in Russia whether they like am or not!
why is Africa doing so poorly, so far?
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Re: Africa so far: 1 Win 5 Loses; 3 Goals
The Lord is my Shepherd. I shall not be in want.
Re: Africa so far: 1 Win 5 Loses; 3 Goals
When was the last time Africa did well?Rawlings wrote:Now back to the topic at hand .....green4life wrote:Massa, don't worry. They will soon sing your anthem in Russia. You hear?Rawlings wrote:Oga, stay on topicgreen4life wrote:... and Ghana will still not be allowed to smell the grass in Russia whether they like am or not!
why is Africa doing so poorly, so far?
I would say African teams played above expectations in 1982, 1986 and 1990. Since then it has been a case of one African team doing well while the rest disappoint.
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... If you look hard enough, you might spot one fan wearing your Ghana Jersey in the stands. Wipe the tears my bredaRawlings wrote:Now back to the topic at hand .....green4life wrote:Massa, don't worry. They will soon sing your anthem in Russia. You hear?Rawlings wrote:Oga, stay on topicgreen4life wrote:... and Ghana will still not be allowed to smell the grass in Russia whether they like am or not!
why is Africa doing so poorly, so far?
Re: Africa so far: 1 Win 5 Loses; 3 Goals
what about 2010, when we almost got to the Semi finals?sayala wrote:When was the last time Africa did well?Rawlings wrote:Now back to the topic at hand .....green4life wrote:Massa, don't worry. They will soon sing your anthem in Russia. You hear?Rawlings wrote:Oga, stay on topicgreen4life wrote:... and Ghana will still not be allowed to smell the grass in Russia whether they like am or not!
why is Africa doing so poorly, so far?
I would say African teams played above expectations in 1982, 1986 and 1990. Since then it has been a case of one African team doing well while the rest disappoint.
anyhow, Good point. So, this is nothing new
In that case, why do we keep asking for more spots?
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Re: Africa so far: 1 Win 5 Loses; 3 Goals
To increase the odds of more African teams progressing to the next round.Rawlings wrote:what about 2010, when we almost got to the Semi finals?sayala wrote:When was the last time Africa did well?Rawlings wrote:Now back to the topic at hand .....green4life wrote:Massa, don't worry. They will soon sing your anthem in Russia. You hear?Rawlings wrote:Oga, stay on topicgreen4life wrote:... and Ghana will still not be allowed to smell the grass in Russia whether they like am or not!
why is Africa doing so poorly, so far?
I would say African teams played above expectations in 1982, 1986 and 1990. Since then it has been a case of one African team doing well while the rest disappoint.
anyhow, Good point. So, this is nothing new
In that case, why do we keep asking for more spots?
We have been brainwashed by the Premier League that it's the best in the world. Nonsense. It's the best brand
Roy Keane: ITV 02/25/14
He says that we are currently "brainwashed" into believing that the Premier League is the best competition in the world, and that we are now a long way off dominating the Champions League again.
Gary Neville: Mirror: 12/23/14
I think Spain’s by far the best league.
Scholes. UK Guardian 9/6/16
Roy Keane: ITV 02/25/14
He says that we are currently "brainwashed" into believing that the Premier League is the best competition in the world, and that we are now a long way off dominating the Champions League again.
Gary Neville: Mirror: 12/23/14
I think Spain’s by far the best league.
Scholes. UK Guardian 9/6/16
Re: Africa so far: 1 Win 5 Loses; 3 Goals
it will rather make us look bad .... Imagine if we have 9 teams and only one goes throughmetalalloy wrote:To increase the odds of more African teams progressing to the next round.Rawlings wrote:what about 2010, when we almost got to the Semi finals?sayala wrote:When was the last time Africa did well?Rawlings wrote:Now back to the topic at hand .....green4life wrote:Massa, don't worry. They will soon sing your anthem in Russia. You hear?Rawlings wrote:Oga, stay on topicgreen4life wrote:... and Ghana will still not be allowed to smell the grass in Russia whether they like am or not!
why is Africa doing so poorly, so far?
I would say African teams played above expectations in 1982, 1986 and 1990. Since then it has been a case of one African team doing well while the rest disappoint.
anyhow, Good point. So, this is nothing new
In that case, why do we keep asking for more spots?
This time around, we sent African's best (no Angola, no Togo, no South Africa, no Congo..)
Multiple African champions, no first time reps, solid national sides
and yet we see no progress SO FAR ...
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Re: Africa so far: 1 Win 5 Loses; 3 Goals
More spots more chances ... or more spots more humiliation? Maybe we need 20 spots, so we actually get a chance to advance more than one team?
Re: Africa so far: 1 Win 5 Loses; 3 Goals
If it weren't so sad, it would be funnybepanda wrote:More spots more chances ... or more spots more humiliation? Maybe we need 20 spots, so we actually get a chance to advance more than one team?
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Re: Africa so far: 1 Win 5 Loses; 3 Goals
Know what? I'll rather Ghana stayed home than put up the Egypt/Morocco performancegreen4life wrote:... If you look hard enough, you might spot one fan wearing your Ghana Jersey in the stands. Wipe the tears my bredaRawlings wrote:Now back to the topic at hand .....green4life wrote:Massa, don't worry. They will soon sing your anthem in Russia. You hear?Rawlings wrote:Oga, stay on topicgreen4life wrote:... and Ghana will still not be allowed to smell the grass in Russia whether they like am or not!
why is Africa doing so poorly, so far?
Nwabali -- Aina, Bassey, TroostEkong, Sanusi --- Chukwueze, Aribo, Ndidi, Iwobi --- Osimhem, Sadiq Umar
Re: Africa so far: 1 Win 5 Loses; 3 Goals
1998 was a relatively good WC for Africa, with a little more luck and better refereeing 3 out of 5 would have qualified for KO rounds. 2014 actually saw 2/5 going to the KO rounds.sayala wrote:When was the last time Africa did well?Rawlings wrote:Now back to the topic at hand .....green4life wrote:Massa, don't worry. They will soon sing your anthem in Russia. You hear?Rawlings wrote:Oga, stay on topicgreen4life wrote:... and Ghana will still not be allowed to smell the grass in Russia whether they like am or not!
why is Africa doing so poorly, so far?
I would say African teams played above expectations in 1982, 1986 and 1990. Since then it has been a case of one African team doing well while the rest disappoint.
Re: Africa so far: 1 Win 5 Loses; 3 Goals
There is still a chance that 3 African teams will get to the next roundfolem wrote:1998 was a relatively good WC for Africa, with a little more luck and better refereeing 3 out of 5 would have qualified for KO rounds. 2014 actually saw 2/5 going to the KO rounds.sayala wrote:When was the last time Africa did well?Rawlings wrote:Now back to the topic at hand .....green4life wrote:Massa, don't worry. They will soon sing your anthem in Russia. You hear?Rawlings wrote:Oga, stay on topicgreen4life wrote:... and Ghana will still not be allowed to smell the grass in Russia whether they like am or not!
why is Africa doing so poorly, so far?
I would say African teams played above expectations in 1982, 1986 and 1990. Since then it has been a case of one African team doing well while the rest disappoint.
Nwabali -- Aina, Bassey, TroostEkong, Sanusi --- Chukwueze, Aribo, Ndidi, Iwobi --- Osimhem, Sadiq Umar
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But imagine if we have 9 and 5 go through. The more you have, the greater your odds of more going through.Rawlings wrote: it will rather make us look bad .... Imagine if we have 9 teams and only one goes through
This time around, we sent African's best (no Angola, no Togo, no South Africa, no Congo..)
Multiple African champions, no first time reps, solid national sides
and yet we see no progress SO FAR ...
We have been brainwashed by the Premier League that it's the best in the world. Nonsense. It's the best brand
Roy Keane: ITV 02/25/14
He says that we are currently "brainwashed" into believing that the Premier League is the best competition in the world, and that we are now a long way off dominating the Champions League again.
Gary Neville: Mirror: 12/23/14
I think Spain’s by far the best league.
Scholes. UK Guardian 9/6/16
Roy Keane: ITV 02/25/14
He says that we are currently "brainwashed" into believing that the Premier League is the best competition in the world, and that we are now a long way off dominating the Champions League again.
Gary Neville: Mirror: 12/23/14
I think Spain’s by far the best league.
Scholes. UK Guardian 9/6/16
Re: Africa so far: 1 Win 5 Loses; 3 Goals
My theory is that we have never really learned how to compete consistently. It is not only football. It is almost everything else. Is there a particular sector, where we (Africans) can actually say, we are world class? We are who our record says we are.
Our economies rely on natural resources. Our football relies on players who learned their kraft in Europe. Even when we have these great generations of players, we mess them up with constant opportunism, bad preparation, incompetence, ... etc.
Sometimes, our young players who benefit from great infrastructures in Europe lack the drive to get better. They refuse to learn the fundamentals and build a solid foundation.
Hopefully we will be able to teach the next generation.
Bepanda
Our economies rely on natural resources. Our football relies on players who learned their kraft in Europe. Even when we have these great generations of players, we mess them up with constant opportunism, bad preparation, incompetence, ... etc.
Sometimes, our young players who benefit from great infrastructures in Europe lack the drive to get better. They refuse to learn the fundamentals and build a solid foundation.
Hopefully we will be able to teach the next generation.
Bepanda
Rawlings wrote:If it weren't so sad, it would be funnybepanda wrote:More spots more chances ... or more spots more humiliation? Maybe we need 20 spots, so we actually get a chance to advance more than one team?
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It reminds me of an uncle who had 20 kids.metalalloy wrote:But imagine if we have 9 and 5 go through. The more you have, the greater your odds of more going through.Rawlings wrote: it will rather make us look bad .... Imagine if we have 9 teams and only one goes through
This time around, we sent African's best (no Angola, no Togo, no South Africa, no Congo..)
Multiple African champions, no first time reps, solid national sides
and yet we see no progress SO FAR ...
His logic was that he increases the chances that one will become a millionaire and look after him in his old age
He forgot that he had to feed, cloth & educate them meanwhile
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As africans players are scattered round the globe, its hard to get them organised for friendlies and meet ups, compare that to eurooeans whose players are a stone throw away, play in same league, understand each other game, thats why i advocate a stronger domestic league in africa, Nigeria should have the best domestic league in Africa generating millions, Nigeria should have at least a pool of 30 world class players, the talent is there, i refuse to believe there is a decline in talent, domestic league clubs with a good feeder system is the way forward
They should bring back the YSFON competitions as far as it dont get hijacked by old aged pensioners, all this involves organization and of course funds
They should bring back the YSFON competitions as far as it dont get hijacked by old aged pensioners, all this involves organization and of course funds
So angry Nigeria got kicked out of the world cup once again, i nearly told my wife that i caught my girlfriend with another man today!
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Re: Africa so far: 1 Win 5 Loses; 3 Goals
South American players are scattered globally and face tougher travel schedules than African players yet look at how well they do at the WC. African footy is a reflection of the continent itself.
Re: Africa so far: 1 Win 5 Loses; 3 Goals
Different attitudes play a huge part as to why african sides dont do well, mentally some african players are weak, european players make so much money and are still keen to leave a mark on the game, some nigerian players for example loss interest in the game once they are millionaires, they play football like politiciansHeliopolis wrote:South American players are scattered globally and face tougher travel schedules than African players yet look at how well they do at the WC. African footy is a reflection of the continent itself.
So angry Nigeria got kicked out of the world cup once again, i nearly told my wife that i caught my girlfriend with another man today!
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