Today Rohr Earned His Stripe As A Coach

[oscar52]

Still don't trust his judgement. Starting Idowu over Ebuehi was a bone head decision and it could have cost us the game in the first half. He has a knack for not wanting to line up his best players to start the game which is weird. The team won in spite of him.

[Lolly]

He should stop being unnecessarily over-academic by complicating simple things - we played series of friendlies. We all saw what happens each time we shift to 3-5-2. I am not an expert on football formations but what we all saw was the fact that our team was always way more comfortable with that formation. How our Einsteins arrive at how it won't work against Croatia is what I don't understand. When you allow our players play formations that they are comfortable with they will confuse even the inventor of the formation with the way they will use it to adapt to different opponents. Do your tweaks but let these boys play to their strength. There is only going to be one World Cup winner so let's have fun and fight it out till the end. At least if we crash out we know we gave our very best not shackled by some stupid formation.

We're capable in different formations. Issue in the first game wasn't formation.

Yes we were capable in different formations but much more capable with 3-5-2. We all saw that during previous matches. The issue in the first game was formation - based on our past matches.

Croatia came with a 4-2-4 formation and it would have been suicidal playing 3-5-2.

That is not true. It is in fact a fallacy. They need speed not just 4-2-4. They would have been forced to adjust within 5 minutes!

I won't argue with you. You are right, you are not an expert in football formations.

Please go and watch the match again and watch how they are set up when Modric has the ball deep inside their half.

[Cellular]

He should stop being unnecessarily over-academic by complicating simple things - we played series of friendlies. We all saw what happens each time we shift to 3-5-2. I am not an expert on football formations but what we all saw was the fact that our team was always way more comfortable with that formation. How our Einsteins arrive at how it won't work against Croatia is what I don't understand. When you allow our players play formations that they are comfortable with they will confuse even the inventor of the formation with the way they will use it to adapt to different opponents. Do your tweaks but let these boys play to their strength. There is only going to be one World Cup winner so let's have fun and fight it out till the end. At least if we crash out we know we gave our very best not shackled by some stupid formation.

We're capable in different formations. Issue in the first game wasn't formation.

Yes we were capable in different formations but much more capable with 3-5-2. We all saw that during previous matches. The issue in the first game was formation - based on our past matches.

Croatia came with a 4-2-4 formation and it would have been suicidal playing 3-5-2.

Lolly, I beg to disagree. Against Croatia we should have adjusted to a 352. They played too deep and had their playmaker Modric playing deep with 2 CM in front of him. 3-5-2 allows you to isolate defenders one-on-one in the flanks.

With our personnel, 352 is the best option.

[metalalloy]

He should stop being unnecessarily over-academic by complicating simple things - we played series of friendlies. We all saw what happens each time we shift to 3-5-2. I am not an expert on football formations but what we all saw was the fact that our team was always way more comfortable with that formation. How our Einsteins arrive at how it won't work against Croatia is what I don't understand. When you allow our players play formations that they are comfortable with they will confuse even the inventor of the formation with the way they will use it to adapt to different opponents. Do your tweaks but let these boys play to their strength. There is only going to be one World Cup winner so let's have fun and fight it out till the end. At least if we crash out we know we gave our very best not shackled by some stupid formation.

We're capable in different formations. Issue in the first game wasn't formation.

Yes we were capable in different formations but much more capable with 3-5-2. We all saw that during previous matches. The issue in the first game was formation - based on our past matches.

Croatia came with a 4-2-4 formation and it would have been suicidal playing 3-5-2.

That is not true. It is in fact a fallacy. They need speed not just 4-2-4. They would have been forced to adjust within 5 minutes!

Did you watch Croatia vs Argentina yesterday? Please stick to selling bras for highway

[greg]

Rohr didn't pick this team nor the tactics his own.
The senior players read the riot act to the football coward........'WE WANT AND WILL PLAY AS NIGERIANS IN THE REMAINING MATCHES'.

No mind the stupid WOWO German coward coach. We won because the players rioted!

[metalalloy]

Still don't trust is judgement. Starting Idowu over Ebuehi was a bone head decision and it could have cost us the game in the first half. He has a knack for not wanting to line up his best players to start the game which is weird. The team won in spite of him.

You want him to play his "best players" even if it means playing them out of position? Ok, that makes a ton of sense

[YemiBrazil]

He should stop being unnecessarily over-academic by complicating simple things - we played series of friendlies. We all saw what happens each time we shift to 3-5-2. I am not an expert on football formations but what we all saw was the fact that our team was always way more comfortable with that formation. How our Einsteins arrive at how it won't work against Croatia is what I don't understand. When you allow our players play formations that they are comfortable with they will confuse even the inventor of the formation with the way they will use it to adapt to different opponents. Do your tweaks but let these boys play to their strength. There is only going to be one World Cup winner so let's have fun and fight it out till the end. At least if we crash out we know we gave our very best not shackled by some stupid formation.

We're capable in different formations. Issue in the first game wasn't formation.

Yes we were capable in different formations but much more capable with 3-5-2. We all saw that during previous matches. The issue in the first game was formation - based on our past matches.

Croatia came with a 4-2-4 formation and it would have been suicidal playing 3-5-2.

That is not true. It is in fact a fallacy. They need speed not just 4-2-4. They would have been forced to adjust within 5 minutes!

I won't argue with you. You are right, you are not an expert in football formations.

Please go and watch the match again and watch how they are set up when Modric has the ball deep inside their half.

Please argue with me. I'm not an expert and it's obvious you are not either
Repeat after me, "they need mad speed to pull 4-2-4 against Nigeria playing 3-5-3 and they don't have it" regardless of whatever atilogwu dancing Modric brings to the table he simply won't find the space .

[YemiBrazil]

He should stop being unnecessarily over-academic by complicating simple things - we played series of friendlies. We all saw what happens each time we shift to 3-5-2. I am not an expert on football formations but what we all saw was the fact that our team was always way more comfortable with that formation. How our Einsteins arrive at how it won't work against Croatia is what I don't understand. When you allow our players play formations that they are comfortable with they will confuse even the inventor of the formation with the way they will use it to adapt to different opponents. Do your tweaks but let these boys play to their strength. There is only going to be one World Cup winner so let's have fun and fight it out till the end. At least if we crash out we know we gave our very best not shackled by some stupid formation.

We're capable in different formations. Issue in the first game wasn't formation.

Yes we were capable in different formations but much more capable with 3-5-2. We all saw that during previous matches. The issue in the first game was formation - based on our past matches.

Croatia came with a 4-2-4 formation and it would have been suicidal playing 3-5-2.

That is not true. It is in fact a fallacy. They need speed not just 4-2-4. They would have been forced to adjust within 5 minutes!

Did you watch Croatia vs Argentina yesterday? Please stick to selling bras for highway

Mentallo, you have been noticed - I know we need great players like Albrighton & Gray to beat Croatia

[kolinzo]

He should stop being unnecessarily over-academic by complicating simple things - we played series of friendlies. We all saw what happens each time we shift to 3-5-2. I am not an expert on football formations but what we all saw was the fact that our team was always way more comfortable with that formation. How our Einsteins arrive at how it won't work against Croatia is what I don't understand. When you allow our players play formations that they are comfortable with they will confuse even the inventor of the formation with the way they will use it to adapt to different opponents. Do your tweaks but let these boys play to their strength. There is only going to be one World Cup winner so let's have fun and fight it out till the end. At least if we crash out we know we gave our very best not shackled by some stupid formation.

We're capable in different formations. Issue in the first game wasn't formation.

Yes we were capable in different formations but much more capable with 3-5-2. We all saw that during previous matches. The issue in the first game was formation - based on our past matches.

Croatia came with a 4-2-4 formation and it would have been suicidal playing 3-5-2.

Lolly, I beg to disagree. Against Croatia we should have adjusted to a 352. They played too deep and had their playmaker Modric playing deep with 2 CM in front of him. 3-5-2 allows you to isolate defenders one-on-one in the flanks.

With our personnel, 352 is the best option.

So you think once Naija switched to 3-5-2 Croatia would just sit there and not make adjustments?

[metalalloy]

He should stop being unnecessarily over-academic by complicating simple things - we played series of friendlies. We all saw what happens each time we shift to 3-5-2. I am not an expert on football formations but what we all saw was the fact that our team was always way more comfortable with that formation. How our Einsteins arrive at how it won't work against Croatia is what I don't understand. When you allow our players play formations that they are comfortable with they will confuse even the inventor of the formation with the way they will use it to adapt to different opponents. Do your tweaks but let these boys play to their strength. There is only going to be one World Cup winner so let's have fun and fight it out till the end. At least if we crash out we know we gave our very best not shackled by some stupid formation.

We're capable in different formations. Issue in the first game wasn't formation.

Yes we were capable in different formations but much more capable with 3-5-2. We all saw that during previous matches. The issue in the first game was formation - based on our past matches.

Croatia came with a 4-2-4 formation and it would have been suicidal playing 3-5-2.

That is not true. It is in fact a fallacy. They need speed not just 4-2-4. They would have been forced to adjust within 5 minutes!

Did you watch Croatia vs Argentina yesterday? Please stick to selling bras for highway

Mentallo, you have been noticed - I know we need great players like Albrighton & Gray to beat Croatia

I dey find new bra for Pa j, you fit help a brother out? Abeg go to R&R, you are out of your clueless depth here.

[mate]

I'll repeat, Croatia anticipated how Nigeria played today against Iceland. Nigeria correctly didn't take the bait. I believe we would have scored even more had Nigeria come out pressing. Modric, Rakitic, Perisic, and Co can play the counter much better than Iceland...and in Strinic and Vrsaljko have speedy outside backs, being even more effective in our compact defense in depth.

You adapt. Then it comes down to the quality of the players. Today Nigeria used their quality to run over Iceland.

I'm no expert on Nigeria. But from what I've seen this WC so far, I think your coach generally got it correct. As he will against Argentina, which has a vulnerable defense and midfield. So it calls for more aggression again.

[YemiBrazil]

I'll repeat, Croatia anticipated how Nigeria played today against Iceland. Nigeria correctly didn't take the bait. I believe we would have scored even more had Nigeria come out pressing. Modric, Rakitic, Perisic, and Co can play the counter much better than Iceland...and in Strinic and Vrsaljko have speedy outside backs, being even more effective in our compact defense in depth.

You adapt. Then it comes down to the quality of the players. Today Nigeria used their quality to run over Iceland.

I'm no expert on Nigeria. But from what I've seen this WC so far, I think your coach generally got it correct. As he will against Argentina, which has a vulnerable defense and midfield. So it calls for more aggression again.

He got it correct because your team won. Sorry, he messed it up for us - good for you

[Lolly]

He should stop being unnecessarily over-academic by complicating simple things - we played series of friendlies. We all saw what happens each time we shift to 3-5-2. I am not an expert on football formations but what we all saw was the fact that our team was always way more comfortable with that formation. How our Einsteins arrive at how it won't work against Croatia is what I don't understand. When you allow our players play formations that they are comfortable with they will confuse even the inventor of the formation with the way they will use it to adapt to different opponents. Do your tweaks but let these boys play to their strength. There is only going to be one World Cup winner so let's have fun and fight it out till the end. At least if we crash out we know we gave our very best not shackled by some stupid formation.

We're capable in different formations. Issue in the first game wasn't formation.

Yes we were capable in different formations but much more capable with 3-5-2. We all saw that during previous matches. The issue in the first game was formation - based on our past matches.

Croatia came with a 4-2-4 formation and it would have been suicidal playing 3-5-2.

Lolly, I beg to disagree. Against Croatia we should have adjusted to a 352. They played too deep and had their playmaker Modric playing deep with 2 CM in front of him. 3-5-2 allows you to isolate defenders one-on-one in the flanks.

With our personnel, 352 is the best option.

Bros, watch the game again when you have some spare time. Their plan was to exploit out weak full backs (Shehu and Idowu) and push two strikers up on our two central defenders. This one na for qualified coaches, not internet coaches.

https://www.coachesvoice.com/tactics-cr ... ric-moses/

Analysis: Croatia



Croatia set up in an overtly attacking 4-2-4 formation, with Luka Modric and Ivan Rakitic as the two central midfielders given the responsibility of distributing the ball to the four forwards. The attacking quartet consisted of Ivan Perisic and Ante Rebic on the flanks, and Mario Mandzukic and Andrej Kramaric through the middle.

Croatia’s performance and game plan in the first half was clear but highly ineffective. Modric and Rakitic would either send long passes from deep positions to get Perisic or Rebic in behind the full-backs to cross for the two strikers, or they would send the ball towards Mandzukic or Kramaric to hold up or flick on.

These passes rarely met their destination, spoiling the potential to create attacking opportunities. Croatia only posed a threat when Kramaric dropped a little deeper to offer a set option from Mandzukic or a different passing line for Modric and Rakitic. Perisic and Rebic swapped sides during the first half, but this didn’t change anything.

Croatia came out for the second half looking a much more threatening and well-structured unit. Marcelo Brozovic replaced Kramaric and played alongside Rakitic in the holding position, which pushed Modric further up the field to provide another line between midfield and attack to assist in the build-up.

Zlatko Dalic’s team now had an alternative plan away from the direct pass to Mandzukic, which allowed their star player, Modric, to get on the ball in more threatening areas than previously seen.

Out of possession, Croatia would press in a 4-4-2 mid-block with Perisic and Rebic dropping in to help Rakitic and Modric in midfield. One of the wide pair would push up to join the two forwards when the ball was with the full-back, while the opposite midfielder would tuck in with Rakitic and Modric.

With Croatia happy to let Nigeria have the ball at the back, their opponents would invariably lose patience and too often resorted to long balls towards striker Odion Ighalo – who was outnumbered and struggled to hold the ball up.

[kolinzo]

I'll repeat, Croatia anticipated how Nigeria played today against Iceland. Nigeria correctly didn't take the bait. I believe we would have scored even more had Nigeria come out pressing. Modric, Rakitic, Perisic, and Co can play the counter much better than Iceland...and in Strinic and Vrsaljko have speedy outside backs, being even more effective in our compact defense in depth.

You adapt. Then it comes down to the quality of the players. Today Nigeria used their quality to run over Iceland.

I'm no expert on Nigeria. But from what I've seen this WC so far, I think your coach generally got it correct. As he will against Argentina, which has a vulnerable defense and midfield. So it calls for more aggression again.

[YemiBrazil]

Lolly, really??????

[Lolly]

Lolly, really??????

Yes. You no sabi ball. Take it from someone who is a coach and re-watches games over and over.

https://www.coachesvoice.com/tactics-cr ... ric-moses/

[YemiBrazil]

Lolly and his mugu internet coaches think 3-5-2 means 3 at the back always

[metalalloy]

Thanks for sharing Lolly. You are wasting your time "debating" with a clueless hanky seller. You might as well past the article to the wall and talk to it, you will get the same level of depth from the wall that Yemibrah will provide

[YemiBrazil]

Lolly, really??????

Yes. You no sabi ball. Take it from someone who is a coach and re-watches games over and over.

https://www.coachesvoice.com/tactics-cr ... ric-moses/

I can bet you have not seen half of live matches and trainings that I've seen seen across 4 continents

[YemiBrazil]

Thanks for sharing Lolly. You are wasting your time "debating" with a clueless hanky seller. You might as well past the article to the wall and talk to it, you will get the same level of depth from the wall that Yemibrah will provide

Mentallo Albrighton

[1naija]

He should stop being unnecessarily over-academic by complicating simple things - we played series of friendlies. We all saw what happens each time we shift to 3-5-2. I am not an expert on football formations but what we all saw was the fact that our team was always way more comfortable with that formation. How our Einsteins arrive at how it won't work against Croatia is what I don't understand. When you allow our players play formations that they are comfortable with they will confuse even the inventor of the formation with the way they will use it to adapt to different opponents. Do your tweaks but let these boys play to their strength. There is only going to be one World Cup winner so let's have fun and fight it out till the end. At least if we crash out we know we gave our very best not shackled by some stupid formation.

For once we say the truth!.

We should have just stopped right there and save all the wasted space we could have been reserved for experts like me.

[Kneedeep]

Good job, but no matter what they've been doing to other Europeans this is still Iceland. There are more people in Ihiala local government than there are in the whole country of Iceland.

[1naija]

Guys, let's disregard anything some people say from henceforth. Thanks in advance