ROHR: TO STAY OR TO GO

Obong · Post by **Obong** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:25 pm

Following the rather disappointing World Cup in spite of the unparalleled NFF and government support, many want Rohr to go. Some, including the NFF President, Pinnick, want him to stay. A few are undecided. Oya, cast your vote and let's channel it to the right quarters.

waka-man · Post by **waka-man** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:36 pm

Of course he stays. Are we mad? Will we never learn?
He stays

john12 · Post by **john12** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:38 pm

You have to be a shameless crook to want him sacked after just 2 years in charge

Odas · Post by **Odas** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:56 pm

Personally, I am generally undecided, but my weight is pulling me to the said of letting Rohr STAY.

kbt · Post by **kbt** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:59 pm

Stay but in a more technical advisory role. Let someone else be on the front line. I wonder if someone like Emenalo will be interested.

ohenhen1 · Post by **ohenhen1** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:01 pm

kbt wrote:Stay but in a more technical advisory role. Let someone else be on the front line. I wonder if someone like Emenalo will be interested.

I doubt Emenalo will leave his job at Monaco.

charlie · Post by **charlie** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:03 pm

Luckily sensible people dont make important decisions using an internet poll.

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA · Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:08 pm

Here we go again. All we ever do is change coaches, all the new coach ever does is give us the same result we had before .Why do Nigerians hate the idea of BUILDING by staying with a plan ? We do it with everything, from road construction ,agriculture to football teams. Everybody wants to tear down whats been on going and start his own.

Abacha,OBJ,Babangida, GEJ and now Buhari all had plans. Today we have no power,water or security. What do we do if the new hire doesn't qualify for Afcon after we've thrown away Rohr's gains? Do we then find another one? We did miss 2 Afcons with the previous coaches. Remember that?

ohenhen1 · Post by **ohenhen1** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:09 pm

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:Here we go again. All we ever do is change coaches, all the new coach ever does is give us the same result we had before .Why do Nigerians hate the idea of BUILDING by staying with a plan ? We do it with everything, from road construction ,agriculture to football teams. Everybody wants to tear down whats been on going and start his own.

Abacha,OBJ,Babangida, GEJ and now Buhari all had plans. Today we have no power,water or security. What do we do if the new hire doesn't qualify for Afcon after we've thrown away Rohr's gains? Do we then find another one? We did miss 2 Afcons with the previous coaches. Remember that?

A building with faulty foundation or cheap building materials will not last. We have to hire a competent coach. Reward good performance with a pay raise and longer tenure.

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA · Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:15 pm

ohenhen1 wrote:
EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:Here we go again. All we ever do is change coaches, all the new coach ever does is give us the same result we had before .Why do Nigerians hate the idea of BUILDING by staying with a plan ? We do it with everything, from road construction ,agriculture to football teams. Everybody wants to tear down whats been on going and start his own.

Abacha,OBJ,Babangida, GEJ and now Buhari all had plans. Today we have no power,water or security. What do we do if the new hire doesn't qualify for Afcon after we've thrown away Rohr's gains? Do we then find another one? We did miss 2 Afcons with the previous coaches. Remember that?
A building with faulty foundation or cheap building materials will not last. We have to hire a competent coach. Reward good performance with a pay raise and longer tenure.

you can reinforce the foundation and buy better material. Btw, the teams we lot to had much better foundations and material.Which coach will beat Modric with Etebo?

1naija · Post by **1naija** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:20 pm

Obong wrote:Following the rather disappointing World Cup in spite of the unparalleled NFF and government support, many want Rohr to go. Some, including the NFF President, Pinnick, want him to stay. A few are undecided. Oya, cast your vote and let's channel it to the right quarters.

Who are the many that want him to go? And if you know this, then what's the purpose of the poll? Rohr, the NFF, and even some of the players did not get any support from many of you yet you called their performance disappointing?

joplass · Post by **joplass** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:21 pm

Stays. The SE don't have one single world class player and the boys did not give all they have. Not the coach's fault and if he is leaving bring on a local coach.

ohenhen1 · Post by **ohenhen1** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:30 pm

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:
ohenhen1 wrote:
EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:Here we go again. All we ever do is change coaches, all the new coach ever does is give us the same result we had before .Why do Nigerians hate the idea of BUILDING by staying with a plan ? We do it with everything, from road construction ,agriculture to football teams. Everybody wants to tear down whats been on going and start his own.

Abacha,OBJ,Babangida, GEJ and now Buhari all had plans. Today we have no power,water or security. What do we do if the new hire doesn't qualify for Afcon after we've thrown away Rohr's gains? Do we then find another one? We did miss 2 Afcons with the previous coaches. Remember that?
A building with faulty foundation or cheap building materials will not last. We have to hire a competent coach. Reward good performance with a pay raise and longer tenure.

you can reinforce the foundation and buy better material. Btw, the teams we lot to had much better foundations and material.Which coach will beat Modric with Etebo?

A coach that is not scared and plays Etebo in the advanced role.

No matter how much you reinforce it. You can't mask cheap materials. You have to tear down that foundation and rebuild it.

We can't reward mediocrity and a coach that doesn't believe in the team that he is coaching. He has been in charge for two years. He was the one that scouted and invited the players to camp.
Fire him and hire a new coach.

The YeyeMan · Post by **The YeyeMan** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:33 pm

john12 wrote:You have to be a shameless crook to want him sacked after just 2 years in charge

Button it, you clown.

There are valid views on both sides of the debate - quit calling people crooks because they take an opposing view.

Sorry to say this but I've read your posts on here and have reached the conclusion that you're as dumb as a rock and a contender for the most stupid member that's ever posted on CE. Heaven knows this forum has witnessed some morons, some trolls, and some know-nothings over the years but you take the absolute cake.

You know I've actually lost brain cells when reading your posts? After reading your posts I temporarily forget how to do basic tasks and functions like doing laundry or washing dishes. Seriously, your posts should come with a health warning such is their rank stupidity. If I knew how to block a member's posts then I'd really give consideration to blocking yours. Abeg, try to stop your torrent of nonsense. Please!

ogiso · Post by **ogiso** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:41 pm

Rohr himself would have learnt much from this tournament, including mistakes he made. It will be stupid to discard that experience now.

ohenhen1 · Post by **ohenhen1** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:52 pm

ogiso wrote:Rohr himself would have learnt much from this tournament, including mistakes he made. It will be stupid to discard that experience now.

If I were running the NFF, I would fire him now. Our next game is in September. Have a new coach in place by end of July. Try to keep the GK coaches, physical trainer and the video guy. Every one else should be fired including the Nigerian coaches attached to Rohr. Nigeria must never play cowardly football again.

mystic · Post by **mystic** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:54 pm

Rohr is two years into the rebuilding process necessitated by missing 3 out of the past 4 Nations Cup tournaments. We were at our lowest point ever as far as I can remember and had the daunting task of overcoming a group of fellow African Nations Cup winners to go to the World Cup. Virtually nobody gave us a chance, yet we were the first African side to qualify, lapping the competition in our so called group of death with such ease that we were able to absorb a 3 point penalty for an administrative lapse.

We went to the World Cup with a team so inexperienced on the international stage that 17 of our 23 players were playing in their FIRST EVER INTERNATIONAL TOURNAMENT FOR THE SUPER EAGLES. Pause and let that sink in for the moment and then come back and tell me why we had any right to all the unreasonable expectations that were placed on the squad other than the usual 'can do' mentality of Nigerians mixed with the unbridled optimism that we have as fans. Yes, the NFF gave them unprecedented support, but the truth is that they were simply doing what they are supposed to have been doing all this while.

Look, what the World Cup has shown us is that there is still much more work to be done for Nigerian football to achieve the heights that we all believe it can. And firing a coach who has done very well so far in terms of building the team would be a step backwards, in my opinion. Rohr, in my view, is on his way to building a monster and we must eschew the fire brigade approach for once and let him finish the task. We have another huge test coming next summer (the 2019 African Nations Cup) and if the team doesn't continue to improve and show signs of growth we will know it. We will at that point also be armed with 3 years and two tournaments worth of data on Rohr and will be better positioned to take a rational decision on whether or not he's the coach to take us to the 2022 World Cup.

Rohr should stay.

ohenhen1 · Post by **ohenhen1** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:56 pm

The reason why Rohr should go.

1. He didn't believe in his own team.
2. He played cowardely football
3. Didn't make the right technical changes at the key moments of the game. His decisions against Argentina were amateurish at best.

Fire him.

mystic · Post by **mystic** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:07 pm

ohenhen1 wrote:
EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:Here we go again. All we ever do is change coaches, all the new coach ever does is give us the same result we had before .Why do Nigerians hate the idea of BUILDING by staying with a plan ? We do it with everything, from road construction ,agriculture to football teams. Everybody wants to tear down whats been on going and start his own.

Abacha,OBJ,Babangida, GEJ and now Buhari all had plans. Today we have no power,water or security. What do we do if the new hire doesn't qualify for Afcon after we've thrown away Rohr's gains? Do we then find another one? We did miss 2 Afcons with the previous coaches. Remember that?
A building with faulty foundation or cheap building materials will not last. We have to hire a competent coach. Reward good performance with a pay raise and longer tenure.

The foundation is far from faulty. The building blocks of a really good team are already in place. We simply need to continue to work and forge ahead.

ohenhen1 · Post by **ohenhen1** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:10 pm

mystic wrote:
ohenhen1 wrote:
EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:Here we go again. All we ever do is change coaches, all the new coach ever does is give us the same result we had before .Why do Nigerians hate the idea of BUILDING by staying with a plan ? We do it with everything, from road construction ,agriculture to football teams. Everybody wants to tear down whats been on going and start his own.

Abacha,OBJ,Babangida, GEJ and now Buhari all had plans. Today we have no power,water or security. What do we do if the new hire doesn't qualify for Afcon after we've thrown away Rohr's gains? Do we then find another one? We did miss 2 Afcons with the previous coaches. Remember that?
A building with faulty foundation or cheap building materials will not last. We have to hire a competent coach. Reward good performance with a pay raise and longer tenure.

The foundation is far from faulty. The building blocks of a really good team are already in place. We simply need to continue to work and forge ahead.

I am looking at Rohr resume. Has he ever built a championship winning side?

Why was he hired?

The way Nigeria played against Croatia was troubling. I can't get over it. It is the world cup. If we lose, we lose. But at least play to win.

Ekorian · Post by **Ekorian** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:14 pm

In four years, Nigeria would have spent 864,000,000.( 864 Million Naira) in salaries alone to Rohr.
Imagine what close to a billion Naira could do for football developments, infrastructures, improving our local league and training of our local coaches?
Talk about misplaced priorities. And we wonder why our country is regressing. SMDH!

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA · Mon Jul 02, 2018 1:06 am

Ekorian wrote:In four years, Nigeria would have spent 864,000,000.( 864 Million Naira) in salaries alone to Rohr.
Imagine what close to a billion Naira could do for football developments, infrastructures, improving our local league and training of our local coaches?
Talk about misplaced priorities. And we wonder why our country is regressing. SMDH!

You obviously know nothing about Nigeria. N1billion ain’t gotta develope jack s&$t in Nigeria unless all you want to do is put goal posts on dusty stone filled neighborhood pitches. It won’t even cover the stomach infrastructure of putting up the goal posts.

Ekorian · Post by **Ekorian** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 1:13 am

EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:
Ekorian wrote:In four years, Nigeria would have spent 864,000,000.( 864 Million Naira) in salaries alone to Rohr.
Imagine what close to a billion Naira could do for football developments, infrastructures, improving our local league and training of our local coaches?
Talk about misplaced priorities. And we wonder why our country is regressing. SMDH!
You obviously know nothing about Nigeria. N1billion ain’t gotta develope jack s&$t in Nigeria unless all you want to do is put goal posts on dusty stone filled neighborhood pitches. It won’t even cover the stomach infrastructure of putting up the goal posts.

I was addressing his salaries and not even other incentives. Forget about other developments for argument's sake. How many local coaches can 2 million dollars help with international coaching courses? . Will Rohr somehow steal the cup to Nigeria in 4 years?

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