France have gone to the semis in every European WC ...
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:59 pm
that they qualified for. What a record!
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The world cup started in 1982.........................before then, it was the Euro/South American championship.Eaglezbeak wrote:Except for 1966 in England because in that case they went out in the group stage!
Well since 1930 (when it began) it's been officially called the World Cup and oh yes Egypt where African in 1934 although they also went out in he first round and didn't return till 1990 (in the same group as England) and again went out in first round just as they did this year (1990 the year Cameroon reached the last 8 losing to England).zee wrote:The world cup started in 1982.........................before then, it was the Euro/South American championship.Eaglezbeak wrote:Except for 1966 in England because in that case they went out in the group stage!
You can say that again!zee wrote:The world cup started in 1982.........................before then, it was the Euro/South American championship.Eaglezbeak wrote:Except for 1966 in England because in that case they went out in the group stage!
Save the clapping Zaire qualified in 1974 and Tunisia in 1978 and Indonesia (who are not European or South American) where there in 1938 followed by South Korea in 1954.Scipio Africanus wrote:You can say that again!zee wrote:The world cup started in 1982.........................before then, it was the Euro/South American championship.Eaglezbeak wrote:Except for 1966 in England because in that case they went out in the group stage!
Brilliant. This should be sent to every to everyone who thinks it is just a matter of coach and lucky bounce.airwolex wrote:[/video]
FFS its 2018, try Google.zee wrote:The world cup started in 1982.........................before then, it was the Euro/South American championship.Eaglezbeak wrote:Except for 1966 in England because in that case they went out in the group stage!
I couldn't be asked to pull out facts as a lot of the guys here are selective inTunisian Gooner wrote:FFS its 2018, try Google.zee wrote:The world cup started in 1982.........................before then, it was the Euro/South American championship.Eaglezbeak wrote:Except for 1966 in England because in that case they went out in the group stage!
1934
Egypt
1950
USA
Mexico
1954
Mexico
South Korea
1958
Mexico
1962
Mexico
1966
North Korea
Mexico
1970
Morocco
Mexico
El Salvador
1974
Zaire
Australia
Haiti
1978
Tunisia
Iran
Mexico
The world cup started in 1982.....................'Egypt,Zaire,Tunisia are just TOKENISMS'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Eaglezbeak wrote:I couldn't be asked to pull out facts as a lot of the guys here are selective inTunisian Gooner wrote:FFS its 2018, try Google.zee wrote:The world cup started in 1982.........................before then, it was the Euro/South American championship.Eaglezbeak wrote:Except for 1966 in England because in that case they went out in the group stage!
1934
Egypt
1950
USA
Mexico
1954
Mexico
South Korea
1958
Mexico
1962
Mexico
1966
North Korea
Mexico
1970
Morocco
Mexico
El Salvador
1974
Zaire
Australia
Haiti
1978
Tunisia
Iran
Mexico
What they can retain there for I try to simplify common facts!
ohsee wrote:Brilliant. This should be sent to every to everyone who thinks it is just a matter of coach and lucky bounce.airwolex wrote:[/video]
Tunisian Gooner wrote:FFS its 2018, try Google.zee wrote:The world cup started in 1982.........................before then, it was the Euro/South American championship.Eaglezbeak wrote:Except for 1966 in England because in that case they went out in the group stage!
1934
Egypt
1950
USA
Mexico
1954
Mexico
South Korea
1958
Mexico
1962
Mexico
1966
North Korea
Mexico
1970
Morocco
Mexico
El Salvador
1974
Zaire
Australia
Haiti
1978
Tunisia
Iran
Mexico
ohsee wrote:Brilliant. This should be sent to every to everyone who thinks it is just a matter of coach and lucky bounce.airwolex wrote:[/video]
For more:What do the World Cup semi-finalists all have in common? Immigration.
The Guardian
Be it Croatia’s hero hailing from Switzerland or the 50% of French and Belgian players with African ancestry, immigration is at the heart of each squad.
Pelé’s prediction that an African team would win the World Cup before the turn of the 21st century ended up wide of the mark, and this year’s tournament in Russia marked the first time since 1982 that none reached the knockout stages.
But while that disappointment has been hard to take for supporters of Egypt, Morocco, Nigeria, Senegal and Tunisia, Tuesday’s semi-final between France and Belgium is proof of the enormous influence the sons of African immigrants have played in confirming European football’s place at the pinnacle of the global game.
In total, 23 players – exactly 50% – in Didier Deschamps’ and Roberto Martínez’s squads can trace their ancestry to Africa. In countries where the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development estimates that 6.8% and 12.1% respectively of the population is comprised of migrants, it is an astounding statistic that indicates just how important integration has been.
Just as France’s victory at the 1998 World Cup on home soil was hailed as a triumph for the “black, blanc, beur” side captained by Deschamps, the success of Kylian Mbappé – the son of a Cameroonian father and Algerian mother – and his cosmopolitan teammates has provided an emphatic rejoinder to bigotry at home. But if some critics of France have been silenced by superb performances, it had been a different story in Belgium until recently.
“When things were going well, I was reading newspaper articles and they were calling me Romelu Lukaku, the Belgian striker,” wrote the Manchester United forward in an article for the Players’ Tribune last month. “When things weren’t going well, they were calling me Romelu Lukaku, the Belgian striker of Congolese descent.”
In the squad where seven players can trace roots to the former Belgian colony, Lukaku and Vincent Kompany – whose father, Pierre, is a Congolese diplomat – have emerged as the figureheads for a group that has historically suffered from a terrible legacy.
It is noticeable that of the semi-finalists, Croatia have the most players born outside the country they represent, with 15.4%. Calling on children of migrants, such as Switzerland-born Ivan Rakitic and Mateo Kovacic, who grew up in Austria, is vital for a country with a population of just over 4 million to compete against some of the biggest nations on the planet.
But regardless of where they are from, they are being brought up in the French system and the best make the French NT. We are going around picking from the leftovers of the ones that didn't make the cut in England, Germany, Netherlands etc...so their parent countries will always be better positioned than us as we are fighting for their leftovers while they are using the cream of the crop.The YeyeMan wrote:So all those complaining about Nigeria seeking to recruit players born overseas really need to open their eyes. Times have changed... for the better.
No, it's partly to do with timing. The English weren't happy when we took Iwobi - it wasn't the case of him not making the cut - he chose Nigeria over England. Same with Wilfred Zaha; these guys aren't left overs like Shola Ameobi.maceo4 wrote:But regardless of where they are from, they are being brought up in the French system and the best make the French NT. We are going around picking from the leftovers of the ones that didn't make the cut in England, Germany, Netherlands etc...so their parent countries will always be better positioned than us as we are fighting for their leftovers while they are using the cream of the crop.The YeyeMan wrote:So all those complaining about Nigeria seeking to recruit players born overseas really need to open their eyes. Times have changed... for the better.
Yes, this is exactly what countries with limited means or smaller populations and budgets will do to scout and secure talent.mate wrote:Croatia nearly got Pulisic. He opted for the USA. We have our gunsights on anybody of Croatian heritage.