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Sadiq Umar to Glasgow Rangers on Loan

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:40 pm
by Cally
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... ibaly.html

Deal completed subject to medical. How did he secure a work permit?

This is a good move for him. Steven Gerrard has recruited heavily with Ejaria and Umar representing.

Re: Sadiq Umar to Glasgow Rangers on Loan

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:43 pm
by oloye
Why na so so loan our players dey? Small time we will start to dream that they are world class materials. I am tired of all these loan deals abeg.

Re: Sadiq Umar to Glasgow Rangers on Loan

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:44 pm
by oloye
Cally wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... ibaly.html

Deal completed subject to medical. How did he secure a work permit?

This is a good move for him. Steven Gerrard has recruited heavily with Ejaria and Umar representing.
I suspect the laws are different in Scotland. The likes of Nwakali played there without meeting the so called requirements.

Re: Sadiq Umar to Glasgow Rangers on Loan

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:46 pm
by EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA
oloye wrote:Why na so so loan our players dey? Small time we will start to dream that they are world class materials. I am tired of all these loan deals abeg.
I agree. He should’ve signed with Bayern.

Re: Sadiq Umar to Glasgow Rangers on Loan

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:51 pm
by oloye
EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:
oloye wrote:Why na so so loan our players dey? Small time we will start to dream that they are world class materials. I am tired of all these loan deals abeg.
I agree. He should’ve signed with Bayern.
Not necessarily, I just think a permanent move is always in their best interest. It takes players time to settle down in a new environment , some of them a whole season. I don't how see these loan helps on the long term....imagine having to start all over again in another team just about the time you are beginning to settle into the system on your current team.

Re: Sadiq Umar to Glasgow Rangers on Loan

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:08 pm
by vancity eagle
I'm sorry but this is a terrible move.

The Scottish league is rubbish, champions league or not. They will be eliminated soon anyways.

I'd rather he stayed in the Dutch league to be honest. Even the championship would be better.

Re: Sadiq Umar to Glasgow Rangers on Loan

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:12 pm
by txj
vancity eagle wrote:I'm sorry but this is a terrible move.

The Scottish league is rubbish, champions league or not. They will be eliminated soon anyways.

I'd rather he stayed in the Dutch league to be honest. Even the championship would be better.
Virgil Van Dyke

Re: Sadiq Umar to Glasgow Rangers on Loan

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:17 pm
by Cally
vancity eagle wrote:I'm sorry but this is a terrible move.

The Scottish league is rubbish, champions league or not. They will be eliminated soon anyways.

I'd rather he stayed in the Dutch league to be honest. Even the championship would be better.
Your opinion, which is equally rubbish.

Re: Sadiq Umar to Glasgow Rangers on Loan

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:21 pm
by EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA
Cally wrote:
vancity eagle wrote:I'm sorry but this is a terrible move.

The Scottish league is rubbish, champions league or not. They will be eliminated soon anyways.

I'd rather he stayed in the Dutch league to be honest. Even the championship would be better.
Your opinion, which is equally rubbish.
Like Morocco beating Spain :laugh:

Re: Sadiq Umar to Glasgow Rangers on Loan

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:24 pm
by Cellular
oloye wrote:
EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:
oloye wrote:Why na so so loan our players dey? Small time we will start to dream that they are world class materials. I am tired of all these loan deals abeg.
I agree. He should’ve signed with Bayern.
Not necessarily, I just think a permanent move is always in their best interest. It takes players time to settle down in a new environment , some of them a whole season. I don't see these loan helps....imagine having to moblve to start all over again in another team just about the time you are beginning to settle into the system.
Some of our players could have been helped by our FA.

Invite them for national team duties so as to help them qualify for work permits.

I would have taken Sadiq of Simi...

Re: Sadiq Umar to Glasgow Rangers on Loan

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:54 pm
by oloye
Cellular wrote:
oloye wrote:
EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:
oloye wrote:Why na so so loan our players dey? Small time we will start to dream that they are world class materials. I am tired of all these loan deals abeg.
I agree. He should’ve signed with Bayern.
Not necessarily, I just think a permanent move is always in their best interest. It takes players time to settle down in a new environment , some of them a whole season. I don't see these loan helps....imagine having to moblve to start all over again in another team just about the time you are beginning to settle into the system.
Some of our players could have been helped by our FA.

Invite them for national team duties so as to help them qualify for work permits.

I would have taken Sadiq of Simi...
It is a no no..knowing how we abuse everything. The national team is not for helping anyone to get work permit. The national team is where the best players available to the country come together. England is not the only country where they can play their trade.

Re: Sadiq Umar to Glasgow Rangers on Loan

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:06 pm
by pajimoh
Cellular wrote:
oloye wrote:
EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:
oloye wrote:Why na so so loan our players dey? Small time we will start to dream that they are world class materials. I am tired of all these loan deals abeg.
I agree. He should’ve signed with Bayern.
Not necessarily, I just think a permanent move is always in their best interest. It takes players time to settle down in a new environment , some of them a whole season. I don't see these loan helps....imagine having to moblve to start all over again in another team just about the time you are beginning to settle into the system.
Some of our players could have been helped by our FA.

Invite them for national team duties so as to help them qualify for work permits.

I would have taken Sadiq of Simi...
This is not an option. The NT is not for agents to use in getting their ward work permit.

Re: Sadiq Umar to Glasgow Rangers on Loan

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:10 pm
by Coach
txj wrote:
vancity eagle wrote:I'm sorry but this is a terrible move.

The Scottish league is rubbish, champions league or not. They will be eliminated soon anyways.

I'd rather he stayed in the Dutch league to be honest. Even the championship would be better.
Virgil Van Dyke
Victor Wanyama Choma.

Typical Nigerians, more interested in name than substance. Chelsea sounds nice, how did that work out Omeruo?...If he does well and Rangers do well, he'll be playing in Europe next season, one way or another. The most likely scenario is, Gerrard is trialling players who may be somewhere on Liverpool's radar.

Re: Sadiq Umar to Glasgow Rangers on Loan

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:12 pm
by Cellular
pajimoh wrote:
Cellular wrote:
oloye wrote:
EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:
oloye wrote:Why na so so loan our players dey? Small time we will start to dream that they are world class materials. I am tired of all these loan deals abeg.
I agree. He should’ve signed with Bayern.
Not necessarily, I just think a permanent move is always in their best interest. It takes players time to settle down in a new environment , some of them a whole season. I don't see these loan helps....imagine having to moblve to start all over again in another team just about the time you are beginning to settle into the system.
Some of our players could have been helped by our FA.

Invite them for national team duties so as to help them qualify for work permits.

I would have taken Sadiq of Simi...
This is not an option. The NT is not for agents to use in getting their ward work permit.
Au contraire, the US does it for some of their special players who needed national team invites to qualify for Work permits, especially in the UK.

Re: Sadiq Umar to Glasgow Rangers on Loan

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:22 pm
by Damunk
oloye wrote:Why na so so loan our players dey? Small time we will start to dream that they are world class materials. I am tired of all these loan deals abeg.
I believe there is an element of oju kokoro on the part of the clubs loaning out their players.
They don't want to let them go until they are absolutely sure they are not required, whilst at the same time shifting the financial responsibilities over to the club the players are loaned out to.
That way, if the player blows up, they reclaim their t'ing one time and don't lose out.

I'm sure Chelsea in hindsight are thinking they woulda, shoulda, coulda been a little more patient with De Bryne and Mo Salah instead of getting rid of them outright after briefly loaning them out.

Re: Sadiq Umar to Glasgow Rangers on Loan

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:50 pm
by paj
oloye wrote:Why na so so loan our players dey? Small time we will start to dream that they are world class materials. I am tired of all these loan deals abeg.
bros..Playing time l'omor....

Re: Sadiq Umar to Glasgow Rangers on Loan

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:52 pm
by oloye
Cellular wrote:
pajimoh wrote:
Cellular wrote:
oloye wrote:
EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:
oloye wrote:Why na so so loan our players dey? Small time we will start to dream that they are world class materials. I am tired of all these loan deals abeg.
I agree. He should’ve signed with Bayern.
Not necessarily, I just think a permanent move is always in their best interest. It takes players time to settle down in a new environment , some of them a whole season. I don't see these loan helps....imagine having to moblve to start all over again in another team just about the time you are beginning to settle into the system.
Some of our players could have been helped by our FA.

Invite them for national team duties so as to help them qualify for work permits.

I would have taken Sadiq of Simi...
This is not an option. The NT is not for agents to use in getting their ward work permit.
Au contraire, the US does it for some of their special players who needed national team invites to qualify for Work permits, especially in the UK.
My dear Cellular, to start with it we need to be careful when we make these comparisons while ignoring the real problem we have on the ground. That US does it, does not make it something we should be doing..otherwise what stops every d#$% , tom and harry from ...aghh let me not even go on.

We are still trying to master the democracy they gave us..and now you want to add this one on top of our football issues..mba mba nunu :D

Re: Sadiq Umar to Glasgow Rangers on Loan

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:06 pm
by Cellular
oloye wrote:
My dear Cellular, to start with it we need to be careful when we make these comparisons while ignoring the real problem we have on the ground. That US does it, does not make it something we should be doing..otherwise what stops every d#$% , tom and harry from ...aghh let me not even go on.

We are still trying to master the democracy they gave us..and now you want to add this one on top of our football issues..mba mba nunu :D
Dean,

We can identify special talents who need the assistance of our FA to improve their chances of getting a Work Permit.

The Sadiq, The Nwakalis, Osimhen, Awoniyi. Pick based on a position of need and ability.
We did it for our goalkeeping department why not for other position of need?

Re: Sadiq Umar to Glasgow Rangers on Loan

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:17 pm
by metalalloy
Cellular wrote:
oloye wrote:
My dear Cellular, to start with it we need to be careful when we make these comparisons while ignoring the real problem we have on the ground. That US does it, does not make it something we should be doing..otherwise what stops every d#$% , tom and harry from ...aghh let me not even go on.

We are still trying to master the democracy they gave us..and now you want to add this one on top of our football issues..mba mba nunu :D
Dean,

We can identify special talents who need the assistance of our FA to improve their chances of getting a Work Permit.


The Sadiq, The Nwakalis, Osimhen, Awoniyi. Pick based on a position of need and ability.
We did it for our goalkeeping department why not for other position of need?
An issue is the limited number of games that the SE has each year. Which coach would be willing to risk his job giving out caps to special talents just for work permit purposes in WC and ANC qualifiers?

Re: Sadiq Umar to Glasgow Rangers on Loan

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:21 pm
by pajimoh
Cellular wrote:
pajimoh wrote:
Cellular wrote:
oloye wrote:
EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:
oloye wrote:Why na so so loan our players dey? Small time we will start to dream that they are world class materials. I am tired of all these loan deals abeg.
I agree. He should’ve signed with Bayern.
Not necessarily, I just think a permanent move is always in their best interest. It takes players time to settle down in a new environment , some of them a whole season. I don't see these loan helps....imagine having to moblve to start all over again in another team just about the time you are beginning to settle into the system.
Some of our players could have been helped by our FA.

Invite them for national team duties so as to help them qualify for work permits.

I would have taken Sadiq of Simi...
This is not an option. The NT is not for agents to use in getting their ward work permit.
Au contraire, the US does it for some of their special players who needed national team invites to qualify for Work permits, especially in the UK.
Chief Cell, how many"special talents" does Nigeria have? Who decides who are "special talents"?
Is it I Nigeria where self interest is the norm, where sn injured Moses Simon was being pushed to make the team so he can sign for Liverpool? Something that is more beneficial to his agent and the player?

So far son would class Nwakali, Sadiq and Onyekuru as special talents and I'm sure more can be added to the list. So for the sake of getting them into the EPL, they should all be given the chance to play 75% of the SE's games regardless of who the coach wants? Mba

Re: Sadiq Umar to Glasgow Rangers on Loan

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:55 pm
by Dammy
Coach wrote:
txj wrote:
vancity eagle wrote:I'm sorry but this is a terrible move.

The Scottish league is rubbish, champions league or not. They will be eliminated soon anyways.

I'd rather he stayed in the Dutch league to be honest. Even the championship would be better.
Virgil Van Dyke
Victor Wanyama Choma.

Typical Nigerians, more interested in name than substance. Chelsea sounds nice, how did that work out Omeruo?...If he does well and Rangers do well, he'll be playing in Europe next season, one way or another. The most likely scenario is, Gerrard is trialling players who may be somewhere on Liverpool's radar.
Rangers are playing in the Europa League this season, so that's a bonus for Sadiq.

Re: Sadiq Umar to Glasgow Rangers on Loan

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:03 pm
by chief nfachairman
Cellular wrote:
oloye wrote:
EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:
oloye wrote:Why na so so loan our players dey? Small time we will start to dream that they are world class materials. I am tired of all these loan deals abeg.
I agree. He should’ve signed with Bayern.
Not necessarily, I just think a permanent move is always in their best interest. It takes players time to settle down in a new environment , some of them a whole season. I don't see these loan helps....imagine having to moblve to start all over again in another team just about the time you are beginning to settle into the system.
Some of our players could have been helped by our FA.

Invite them for national team duties so as to help them qualify for work permits.

I would have taken Sadiq of Simi...
Bro,
I disagree. Why should the national team invite players just to get work permit. If you are good enough, you would be invited and you would get a work permit.

And why Sadiq over Simi? Sadiq struggled to score one goal in the Serie A, Simi did it 7 times and even more goals than Sadiq scored in the dutch league.

Re: Sadiq Umar to Glasgow Rangers on Loan

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:07 pm
by Siddonlook11
vancity eagle wrote:I'm sorry but this is a terrible move.

The Scottish league is rubbish, champions league or not. They will be eliminated soon anyways.

I'd rather he stayed in the Dutch league to be honest. Even the championship would be better.
Hmmm ..Its always good to remember these players and First human beings o and not just "commodities" or produce or product.. Its good to walk in their shoes for real to understand the wholeness of the decisions they make and lot harder than sitting to type and vilify them from the comfort of our homes.

Opari.