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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:07 pm 
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Rohr settled the penalty issue(given to France) by saying that FIFA sent refs to every team 4 days to the start of the WC, to explain what will result in a penalty.
He said that once your hand is no longing on your body or is not defending your face ...then it is a penalty and FIFA REMINDED THEM THAT THEY HAVE OVER 40 CAMERAS :woot:

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Rohr settled the penalty issue(given to France) by saying that FIFA sent refs to every team 4 days to the start of the WC, to explain what will result in a penalty.
He said that once your hand is no longing on your body or is not defending your face ...then it is a penalty and FIFA REMINDED THEM THAT THEY HAVE OVER 40 CAMERAS :woot:


BUT against Argentina we did not get a penalty from the handball :taunt: :taunt:

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:03 pm 
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I hope he keeps the job never to come back to SE


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I hope he keeps the job never to come back to SE


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He needs to stay there along with his boy toy John12. Useless coach. We went to the WC to learn while the 2nd youngest team went there and won. :veryangry: :curse:

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:51 pm 
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Gernot Rohr is an experienced manager and is eminently qualified.

I do NOT like his style. But people need to respect his qualifications and his qualities.

Top managers know their teams. We have the foundation of a good team, but not a team that is a 2nd round team.

Going fwd, we just need to build on it...

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:59 pm 
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txj wrote:
Gernot Rohr is an experienced manager and is eminently qualified.

I do NOT like his style. But people need to respect his qualifications and his qualities.

Top managers know their teams. We have the foundation of a good team, but not a team that is a 2nd round team.

Going fwd, we just need to build on it...

The team was clearly capable of reaching the 2nd round - there was a shortfall of ambition, and ruthlessness vs Argentina. Fine margins as usual.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:01 pm 
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The YeyeMan wrote:
txj wrote:
Gernot Rohr is an experienced manager and is eminently qualified.

I do NOT like his style. But people need to respect his qualifications and his qualities.

Top managers know their teams. We have the foundation of a good team, but not a team that is a 2nd round team.

Going fwd, we just need to build on it...

The team was clearly capable of reaching the 2nd round - there was a shortfall of ambition, and ruthlessness vs Argentina. Fine margins as usual.



Not in the group we were in. There is no objective basis beyond patriotism to make that assertion.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:05 pm 
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txj wrote:
The YeyeMan wrote:
txj wrote:
Gernot Rohr is an experienced manager and is eminently qualified.

I do NOT like his style. But people need to respect his qualifications and his qualities.

Top managers know their teams. We have the foundation of a good team, but not a team that is a 2nd round team.

Going fwd, we just need to build on it...

The team was clearly capable of reaching the 2nd round - there was a shortfall of ambition, and ruthlessness vs Argentina. Fine margins as usual.



Not in the group we were in. There is no objective basis beyond patriotism to make that assertion.


The second goal conceded was soft. Poor decision making by Rohr.

Beaten easily on the left flank, Idowu should have been off.

Were we the 2nd best team, well you can't really turn football into mathematics, you judge it based on the plays and based on the plays we could have reached the 2nd round.

Ighalo was wasteful, Rohr was complacent and the refereeing was somewhat questionable. That game was winnable.

As for the Croatia game, well we won't really know how it should have turned out.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:09 pm 
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Tbite wrote:
txj wrote:
The YeyeMan wrote:
txj wrote:
Gernot Rohr is an experienced manager and is eminently qualified.

I do NOT like his style. But people need to respect his qualifications and his qualities.

Top managers know their teams. We have the foundation of a good team, but not a team that is a 2nd round team.

Going fwd, we just need to build on it...

The team was clearly capable of reaching the 2nd round - there was a shortfall of ambition, and ruthlessness vs Argentina. Fine margins as usual.



Not in the group we were in. There is no objective basis beyond patriotism to make that assertion.


The second goal conceded was soft. Poor decision making by Rohr.

Beaten easily on the left flank, Idowu should have been off.

Were we the 2nd best team, well you can't really turn football into mathematics, you judge it based on the plays and based on the plays we could have reached the 2nd round.

Ighalo was wasteful, Rohr was complacent and the refereeing was somewhat questionable. That game was winnable.

As for the Croatia game, well we won't really know how it should have turned out.



We were not the 2nd best team in the group.

- not by quality of players
- goals scored
- chances created
- experience

The job of a manager is to put his team/players in a position to win.

On the balance vs Argentina, Rohr put his team in a position to win.

He was failed by players not taking the opportunities they had.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:12 pm 
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Tbite wrote:
txj wrote:
The YeyeMan wrote:
txj wrote:
Gernot Rohr is an experienced manager and is eminently qualified.

I do NOT like his style. But people need to respect his qualifications and his qualities.

Top managers know their teams. We have the foundation of a good team, but not a team that is a 2nd round team.

Going fwd, we just need to build on it...

The team was clearly capable of reaching the 2nd round - there was a shortfall of ambition, and ruthlessness vs Argentina. Fine margins as usual.



Not in the group we were in. There is no objective basis beyond patriotism to make that assertion.


The second goal conceded was soft. Poor decision making by Rohr.

Beaten easily on the left flank, Idowu should have been off.

Were we the 2nd best team, well you can't really turn football into mathematics, you judge it based on the plays and based on the plays we could have reached the 2nd round.

Ighalo was wasteful, Rohr was complacent and the refereeing was somewhat questionable. That game was winnable.

As for the Croatia game, well we won't really know how it should have turned out.

Yes, fine margins, decision-making (on and off field) and having the right attitude count for a lot.

All this is based on events we saw on the field, not patriotism.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:14 pm 
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txj wrote:
Tbite wrote:
txj wrote:
The YeyeMan wrote:
txj wrote:
Gernot Rohr is an experienced manager and is eminently qualified.

I do NOT like his style. But people need to respect his qualifications and his qualities.

Top managers know their teams. We have the foundation of a good team, but not a team that is a 2nd round team.

Going fwd, we just need to build on it...

The team was clearly capable of reaching the 2nd round - there was a shortfall of ambition, and ruthlessness vs Argentina. Fine margins as usual.



Not in the group we were in. There is no objective basis beyond patriotism to make that assertion.


The second goal conceded was soft. Poor decision making by Rohr.

Beaten easily on the left flank, Idowu should have been off.

Were we the 2nd best team, well you can't really turn football into mathematics, you judge it based on the plays and based on the plays we could have reached the 2nd round.

Ighalo was wasteful, Rohr was complacent and the refereeing was somewhat questionable. That game was winnable.

As for the Croatia game, well we won't really know how it should have turned out.



We were not the 2nd best team in the group.

- not by quality of players
- goals scored
- chances created
- experience

The job of a manager is to put his team/players in a position to win.

On the balance vs Argentina, Rohr put his team in a position to win.

He was failed by players not taking the opportunities they had.

Regular BS from a football-know-nothing :lol:

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:16 pm 
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txj wrote:
We were not the 2nd best team in the group.

- not by quality of players
- goals scored
- chances created
- experience

The job of a manager is to put his team/players in a position to win.

On the balance vs Argentina, Rohr put his team in a position to win.

He was failed by players not taking the opportunities they had.

This is a very football-by-numbers approach you're taking here.

Were Sweden and Mexico the top teams in their group by quality of players, chances created or experience?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:20 pm 
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txj wrote:
Tbite wrote:
txj wrote:
The YeyeMan wrote:
txj wrote:
Gernot Rohr is an experienced manager and is eminently qualified.

I do NOT like his style. But people need to respect his qualifications and his qualities.

Top managers know their teams. We have the foundation of a good team, but not a team that is a 2nd round team.

Going fwd, we just need to build on it...

The team was clearly capable of reaching the 2nd round - there was a shortfall of ambition, and ruthlessness vs Argentina. Fine margins as usual.



Not in the group we were in. There is no objective basis beyond patriotism to make that assertion.


The second goal conceded was soft. Poor decision making by Rohr.

Beaten easily on the left flank, Idowu should have been off.

Were we the 2nd best team, well you can't really turn football into mathematics, you judge it based on the plays and based on the plays we could have reached the 2nd round.

Ighalo was wasteful, Rohr was complacent and the refereeing was somewhat questionable. That game was winnable.

As for the Croatia game, well we won't really know how it should have turned out.



We were not the 2nd best team in the group.

- not by quality of players
- goals scored
- chances created
- experience

The job of a manager is to put his team/players in a position to win.

On the balance vs Argentina, Rohr put his team in a position to win.

He was failed by players not taking the opportunities they had.

Wrong! 1. He stuck with a china based striker who had scored only 3 goals from open play in 24 games! 2.Made two Substitutions after 90mins! In a game we needed only to draw! I am not even talking about lack of creativity in midfield etc...but he chose his team and strategy, so he should be held responsible,Period!


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:22 pm 
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There would always be few upsets at the World Cup but it dosent mean you should feel entitled. To me, rohr did an ok job considering the caliber of players available at his disposal because at the end of the day, water always find its level


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You keep saying that he stuck with a backwater player please who could he had replaced that backwater player with 1 month to the World Cup? People just like talking bull crap and they behave like if we had a WORLD CLASS striker that rohr omitted


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The YeyeMan wrote:
txj wrote:
We were not the 2nd best team in the group.

- not by quality of players
- goals scored
- chances created
- experience

The job of a manager is to put his team/players in a position to win.

On the balance vs Argentina, Rohr put his team in a position to win.

He was failed by players not taking the opportunities they had.

This is a very football-by-numbers approach you're taking here.

Were Sweden and Mexico the top teams in their group by quality of players, chances created or experience?


No. Its football by the facts.

Germany collapsed and MEX/SWE took advantage of it. They had both the players and the team to be able to do so.

In our case, in spite of Argentina's poor performance, they are unique in the sense that they had Lionel Messi who changes everything in the game.

In the three games in our group, our overall performance truly reflected our abilities going in.

I understand the patriotic fervor and all, but that is the fact.

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txj wrote:
The YeyeMan wrote:
txj wrote:
We were not the 2nd best team in the group.

- not by quality of players
- goals scored
- chances created
- experience

The job of a manager is to put his team/players in a position to win.

On the balance vs Argentina, Rohr put his team in a position to win.

He was failed by players not taking the opportunities they had.

This is a very football-by-numbers approach you're taking here.

Were Sweden and Mexico the top teams in their group by quality of players, chances created or experience?


No. Its football by the facts.

Germany collapsed and MEX/SWE took advantage of it. They had both the players and the team to be able to do so.

In our case, in spite of Argentina's poor performance, they are unique in the sense that they had Lionel Messi who changes everything in the game.

In the three games in our group, our overall performance truly reflected our abilities going in.

I understand the patriotic fervor and all, but that is the fact.

Yet we were only minutes away from qualifying...

I disagree. The Croatia game, above all, was not a reflection of the extent of this team's possibilities. I don't think the team is great by any means but it's better than it showed. What I saw was a team and manager who were unsure of their best XI going into the tournament and throughout it....

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There would always be few upsets at the World Cup but it dosent mean you should feel entitled. To me, rohr did an ok job considering the caliber of players available at his disposal because at the end of the day, water always find its level

Oh common! This why he is paid 45,000 $ a month! If your team is not functioning bcos your striker has not scored in more than 20 games, is it not your duty as coach to fix this???Do u really believe Igahlo is the best 9 we have???


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The YeyeMan wrote:
txj wrote:
The YeyeMan wrote:
txj wrote:
We were not the 2nd best team in the group.

- not by quality of players
- goals scored
- chances created
- experience

The job of a manager is to put his team/players in a position to win.

On the balance vs Argentina, Rohr put his team in a position to win.

He was failed by players not taking the opportunities they had.

This is a very football-by-numbers approach you're taking here.

Were Sweden and Mexico the top teams in their group by quality of players, chances created or experience?


No. Its football by the facts.

Germany collapsed and MEX/SWE took advantage of it. They had both the players and the team to be able to do so.

In our case, in spite of Argentina's poor performance, they are unique in the sense that they had Lionel Messi who changes everything in the game.

In the three games in our group, our overall performance truly reflected our abilities going in.

I understand the patriotic fervor and all, but that is the fact.

Yet we were only minutes away from qualifying...

I disagree. The Croatia game, above all, was not a reflection of the extent of this team's possibilities. I don't think the team is great by any means but it's better than it showed.

There's always a margin for improvement and I wasn't thrilled by our approach. But it is a legitimate approach as we saw Deschamps pretty much do the same thing vs Croatia to win the WC. And note that from a Croatian perspective, it was also not a reflection of their team's possibilities.

What I saw was a team and manager who were unsure of their best XI going into the tournament and throughout it....

Most managers are not sure of their teams going into a tournament and typically DISCOVER it in the process. Same with France, Croatia, Uruguay, Russia, etc.

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Going into the World Cup, IGHALO and IHEANACHO were our BEST available Forwards. If you think otherwise mention who rohr omitted that was better?? I Dey ready to curse person out now


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The team was clearly capable of reaching the 2nd round - there was a shortfall of ambition, and ruthlessness vs Argentina. Fine margins as usual.


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And you don’t think argentines had ambition or ruthlessness ok o


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