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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:21 pm 
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First we have to qualify. Should the team be rebuilt by adding a inch of new players or should minor changes be made to correct the flaws of the wc team? This is the first question we have to answer.

I say make minor changes should be. Bring 3 or 4 players that could make the team better and go for the title.

Nwakali,Onyekuru and Simon should be added to the attack, otherwise I’d keep the same team . :thumb:

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:33 pm 
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EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:
First we have to qualify. Should the team be rebuilt by adding a inch of new players or should minor changes be made to correct the flaws of the wc team? This is the first question we have to answer.

I say make minor changes should be. Bring 3 or 4 players that could make the team better and go for the title.

Nwakali,Onyekuru and Simon should be added to the attack, otherwise I’d keep the same team . :thumb:



The days of adding players are gone. Players that want to be part of the team have to prove themselves. If by Simon you mean Moses Simon, then he has proven himself don't need to do anything else.

BTW, I would put Simmy Nwankwo back in the pool of players that have to prove themselves.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:35 pm 
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We've been rebuilding since 2002 when will we start winning?


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:40 pm 
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I think that, with Ighalo hopefully out of the picture, we need to begin the process of identifying players who can put the ball in the net, since that was our main undoing in the recent WC.
I believe Simy already has a leg in. The likes of Umar, Awoniyi, Osinmeh and one or two others should be slowly onboarded into the team so that, hopefully, in the next 3 years, they would have been battle tested and ready for major competitions.
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EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:
First we have to qualify. Should the team be rebuilt by adding a inch of new players or should minor changes be made to correct the flaws of the wc team? This is the first question we have to answer.

I say make minor changes should be. Bring 3 or 4 players that could make the team better and go for the title.

Nwakali,Onyekuru and Simon should be added to the attack, otherwise I’d keep the same team . :thumb:



The days of adding players are gone. Players that want to be part of the team have to prove themselves. If by Simon you mean Moses Simon, then he has proven himself don't need to do anything else.

BTW, I would put Simmy Nwankwo back in the pool of players that have to prove themselves.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:40 pm 
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kalani JR wrote:
We've been rebuilding since 2002 when will we start winning?

Every team adds better personnel to keep refreshing the ranks and strengthening the team. We call that "rebuild".

We need to add younger/new players to replace aging ones and competition for others

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:52 pm 
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Otitokoro wrote:
I think that, with Ighalo hopefully out of the picture, we need to begin the process of identifying players who can put the ball in the net, since that was our main undoing in the recent WC.
I believe Simy already has a leg in. The likes of Umar, Awoniyi, Osinmeh and one or two others should be slowly onboarded into the team so that, hopefully, in the next 3 years, they would have been battle tested and ready for major competitions.
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EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:
First we have to qualify. Should the team be rebuilt by adding a inch of new players or should minor changes be made to correct the flaws of the wc team? This is the first question we have to answer.

I say make minor changes should be. Bring 3 or 4 players that could make the team better and go for the title.

Nwakali,Onyekuru and Simon should be added to the attack, otherwise I’d keep the same team . :thumb:



The days of adding players are gone. Players that want to be part of the team have to prove themselves. If by Simon you mean Moses Simon, then he has proven himself don't need to do anything else.

BTW, I would put Simmy Nwankwo back in the pool of players that have to prove themselves.


Is Simmy's "leg in" based on how many goals he has scored for Nigeria compared to Ighalo? He should prove he is better than Ighalo first.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:58 pm 
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kalani JR wrote:
We've been rebuilding since 2002 when will we start winning?



Untrue statement.

You cant say we have been rebuilding since 2002 when we have gone through 5-6 different coaching regimes in the same period. That is not how rebuilding works.

Now if you want to say we have been rebuilding and dismantling then rebuilding since 2002, that is more accurate.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:50 pm 
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kalani JR wrote:
We've been rebuilding since 2002 when will we start winning?

We won this tournament the last time we participated in it.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:10 pm 
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Seriously?
This one is easy.
The team building is well under way
Need to find a good goal scorer
A creative midfielder
And another goal keeper

Everything else is pretty much in place or well on its way.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:24 pm 
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The current crisis at the NFF may derail our AFCON 2019 chances.

Naturally, the coach should begin preparations behind the scenes immediately after the WC (or we get a new coach if we no longer need him). But with all the uncertainty surrounding the NFF leadership, things may be at a standstill for a while. Is the coach even being paid? Does he know if he'll still have a job when the dust settles?

If we fail to qualify or do badly at the competition, people will focus on the result and start pointing fingers at the coaches or individual players. They'll fail to acknowledge the fact we already shot ourselves on the foot long before limping our way to that outcome.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:38 pm 
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Orion wrote:
The current crisis at the NFF may derail our AFCON 2019 chances.

Naturally, the coach should begin preparations behind the scenes immediately after the WC (or we get a new coach if we no longer need him). But with all the uncertainty surrounding the NFF leadership, things may be at a standstill for a while. Is the coach even being paid? Does he know if he'll still have a job when the dust settles?

If we fail to qualify or do badly at the competition, people will focus on the result and start pointing fingers at the coaches or individual players. They'll fail to acknowledge the fact we already shot ourselves on the foot long before limping our way to that outcome.


May derail??? The exact same thing happened 4 years ago and we failed to qualify for AFCON as a result.
The exact same thing will likely happen again.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:08 pm 
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kalani JR wrote:
We've been rebuilding since 2002 when will we start winning?

I wonder! Every time, we have to "rebuild" and "rebuild." When are we going to start winning? I am getting fed-up with the rebuilding processes?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:14 pm 
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kalani JR wrote:
We've been rebuilding since 2002 when will we start winning?


We won AFCON in 2013 and got to 2nd round WC 2014. I guess this is rebuilding to win another AFCON and probably get to Quarter Finals in 2022 WC


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:39 pm 
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waka-man wrote:
Seriously?
This one is easy.
The team building is well under way
Need to find a good goal scorer
A creative midfielder
And another goal keeper

Everything else is pretty much in place or well on its way.



A left back and players who know how to cross the ball.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:01 pm 
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The team is pretty much 70% in place, positions we need to urgently look into are:
Left back- Idowu is reliable but not a quality player, Ola Aina is definitely ahead of him but we need to try out that left back home based player that played against Athletico Madrid in the second half of the friendly... I think Uwem is his name, loved his game. Echejile is pretty much done, thanks for your services.
CAM: Iwobi needs competition badly, homeboy seems to have some confidence issue filling in that prominent #10 role, time for Kelechi Nwakali to be given a chance, he's pretty much the most prominent playmaker we have now outside of Iwobi. He needs to sort out his club situation as well.
FWD/CF/ST... :Need I say more? We are in a SOS situation with this position, we've pretty much wasted time on Ighalo, and Kelechi inspite of his immense talent seems to be having some mental block right now, his decision making still leaves much to be desired, but I feel he has been mostly played out of position. Kele should be left to play the position hr excelled with in his U17 days. The likes of Awoniyi, Osimhen, Simy, Jololo are the prime candidates for the problematic #9 position, but time will tell which of these players will finally step up to the big challenge.
GK: We are badly in a dearth of quality here, Uzoho has been decent but he is somewhat overhyped by fans, maybe because our goal keeping standards have hit a desperate snag in recent years, we haven't produced top class Gks since Enyeama....but I've heard interesting names like the Sam Okoye and the other Naija kid in the Arsenal reserves, either way we are f**ed if Uzoho is the best we have now.

Other positions are pretty much set, so we are not necessarily rebuilding since we have the framework already, retooling and refitting (adding more options to the foundation) seems more of an ideal term.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:24 am 
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Otitokoro,

You actually mention something that was thrilling for me after watching this World Cup.The players that you mention and I have highlighted are all tall and should have good advantage in the air where I think the solution lies with the type of defenses shown at the recent World Cup. For me, those compact defenses that made passing through the middle virtually impossible in several of the games can be attacked wide with quick wide players that can also cross the ball. The type of patient passing of the ball around is often worthless against such defenses. We are going to need not just wide players who can cross and dribble quickly but also players in the middle who duel successfully in the air. Also these should be players who are quick on their feet to take advantage of long passes before the defenses converge.

Otitokoro wrote:
I think that, with Ighalo hopefully out of the picture, we need to begin the process of identifying players who can put the ball in the net, since that was our main undoing in the recent WC.
I believe Simy already has a leg in. The likes of Umar, Awoniyi, Osinmeh and one or two others should be slowly onboarded into the team so that, hopefully, in the next 3 years, they would have been battle tested and ready for major competitions.
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EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:
First we have to qualify. Should the team be rebuilt by adding a inch of new players or should minor changes be made to correct the flaws of the wc team? This is the first question we have to answer.

I say make minor changes should be. Bring 3 or 4 players that could make the team better and go for the title.

Nwakali,Onyekuru and Simon should be added to the attack, otherwise I’d keep the same team . :thumb:



The days of adding players are gone. Players that want to be part of the team have to prove themselves. If by Simon you mean Moses Simon, then he has proven himself don't need to do anything else.

BTW, I would put Simmy Nwankwo back in the pool of players that have to prove themselves.

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