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 Post subject: Re: Awoniyi starts
PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:49 pm 
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TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:
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Success and Awoniyi should be called up by Rohr. Drop Ighalo.


You guys just don’t get it. It doesn’t matter who Rohr calls up. He won’t know how to get the best out of them. In order to start making any kind of progress, Nigeria needs to get rid of Rohr :!: :!: :!:


Cheers.
It will greatly help if you can suggest a realistic named replacement.
The easiest thing is to recommend the sack.
The real challenge is the replacement.
A vacuum can never be a better option. :idea:


That’s not my job. The world has an almost infinite number of coaches. Why settle for incompetence? With the exception of Westerhoff, our home grown coaches have fared better than the power point pretenders. Pick one :!:


Cheers.


You are like a bus conductor arguing that a chartered accountant is incompetent in his job whilst admitting you dont know a thing about bookkeeping.

If you have the "humility" to admit that you dont have solutions, then logically it should also imply that you are not qualified to identify the problems either.
How can you honestly identify people who you say are incompetent in their job incompetence if you dont know what competence should look like?

BTW, The world does NOT have an infinite (or almost infinite) number of coaches. There are only 7 billion souls on this planet, and armchair coaching does not count, in spite of your wishes.

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 Post subject: Re: Awoniyi starts
PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:30 pm 
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Watched him a few times this season and I don't like his game. He is very hardworking and strong but he has certain glaring weaknesses.

His most obvious weakness is his strength. He is very likely been told about this a lot and his coaches have molded him into a holdup striker type with the ability to play with his back to goal. A consequence of this is that he is quite static... almost as if he is daring the defender to come and challenge him. He needs to learn to move to free himself up a bit more.

Since he is also playing this role where his duty is to hold the ball up and bring others into play, most of his passes go backwards even when a forward pass looks like the better option or when the defender can be beaten. He slows down play during counter attacks this way. What I don't quite understand is that he is fast enough but his brain just doesn't seem wired to bring the ball forward. He needs to learn how to play with his back to goal and still be progressive on the ball.

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 Post subject: Re: Awoniyi starts
PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:53 pm 
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niyi wrote:
Watched him a few times this season and I don't like his game. He is very hardworking and strong but he has certain glaring weaknesses.

His most obvious weakness is his strength. He is very likely been told about this a lot and his coaches have molded him into a holdup striker type with the ability to play with his back to goal. A consequence of this is that he is quite static... almost as if he is daring the defender to come and challenge him. He needs to learn to move to free himself up a bit more.

Since he is also playing this role where his duty is to hold the ball up and bring others into play, most of his passes go backwards even when a forward pass looks like the better option or when the defender can be beaten. He slows down play during counter attacks this way. What I don't quite understand is that he is fast enough but his brain just doesn't seem wired to bring the ball forward. He needs to learn how to play with his back to goal and still be progressive on the ball.


You get Apollo for eye? Awoniyi isn't strong? Wow :shock: :shock: :shock: Backward passes? He made about 4 neat passes that led to clear cut opportunities just 4 days ago. Abeg lay off the pipe bra. :thumb:

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 Post subject: Re: Awoniyi starts
PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:05 pm 
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He scored today in a Europa cup game :clap: :clap: :clap:

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 Post subject: Re: Awoniyi starts
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EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:
He scored today in a Europa cup game :clap: :clap: :clap:



More of this please :clap:

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 Post subject: Re: Awoniyi starts
PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:25 pm 
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The goals are now coming.

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 Post subject: Re: Awoniyi starts
PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:26 pm 
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Awoniyi is strong. The only weakness I see is he is on several occasions not on the same page with his fellow team mates. Which is normal, just joined them on loan.

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 Post subject: Re: Awoniyi starts
PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:37 pm 
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EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:
niyi wrote:
Watched him a few times this season and I don't like his game. He is very hardworking and strong but he has certain glaring weaknesses.

His most obvious weakness is his strength. He is very likely been told about this a lot and his coaches have molded him into a holdup striker type with the ability to play with his back to goal. A consequence of this is that he is quite static... almost as if he is daring the defender to come and challenge him. He needs to learn to move to free himself up a bit more.

Since he is also playing this role where his duty is to hold the ball up and bring others into play, most of his passes go backwards even when a forward pass looks like the better option or when the defender can be beaten. He slows down play during counter attacks this way. What I don't quite understand is that he is fast enough but his brain just doesn't seem wired to bring the ball forward. He needs to learn how to play with his back to goal and still be progressive on the ball.


You get Apollo for eye? Awoniyi isn't strong? Wow :shock: :shock: :shock: Backward passes? He made about 4 neat passes that led to clear cut opportunities just 4 days ago. Abeg lay off the pipe bra. :thumb:


No. His dependence on his strength at the detriment of pace, forward thinking, good positional play etc is a weakness.

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 Post subject: Re: Awoniyi starts
PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:47 pm 
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His positional play is actually a strength. He also getting to know his new team mates.

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 Post subject: Re: Awoniyi starts
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ohenhen1 wrote:
His positional play is actually a strength. He also getting to know his new team mates.


Yeah. If backing up against a defender while expecting the ball is what you call good positional play.

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 Post subject: Re: Awoniyi starts
PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:32 pm 
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charlie wrote:
TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:
Damunk wrote:
TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:
ohenhen1 wrote:
Success and Awoniyi should be called up by Rohr. Drop Ighalo.


You guys just don’t get it. It doesn’t matter who Rohr calls up. He won’t know how to get the best out of them. In order to start making any kind of progress, Nigeria needs to get rid of Rohr :!: :!: :!:


Cheers.
It will greatly help if you can suggest a realistic named replacement.
The easiest thing is to recommend the sack.
The real challenge is the replacement.
A vacuum can never be a better option. :idea:


That’s not my job. The world has an almost infinite number of coaches. Why settle for incompetence? With the exception of Westerhoff, our home grown coaches have fared better than the power point pretenders. Pick one :!:


Cheers.


You are like a bus conductor arguing that a chartered accountant is incompetent in his job whilst admitting you dont know a thing about bookkeeping.

If you have the "humility" to admit that you dont have solutions, then logically it should also imply that you are not qualified to identify the problems either.
How can you honestly identify people who you say are incompetent in their job incompetence if you dont know what competence should look like?

BTW, The world does NOT have an infinite (or almost infinite) number of coaches. There are only 7 billion souls on this planet, and armchair coaching does not count, in spite of your wishes.


Stop making a fool of yourself. Not my job is not the same as Don’t know but you wouldn’t recognize that given your diminished mental capacity and cognition :mrgreen: :!:


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 Post subject: Re: Awoniyi starts
PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:50 pm 
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heavyd wrote:
TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:
Damunk wrote:
TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:
ohenhen1 wrote:
Success and Awoniyi should be called up by Rohr. Drop Ighalo.


You guys just don’t get it. It doesn’t matter who Rohr calls up. He won’t know how to get the best out of them. In order to start making any kind of progress, Nigeria needs to get rid of Rohr :!: :!: :!:


Cheers.
It will greatly help if you can suggest a realistic named replacement.
The easiest thing is to recommend the sack.
The real challenge is the replacement.
A vacuum can never be a better option. :idea:


That’s not my job. The world has an almost infinite number of coaches. Why settle for incompetence? With the exception of Westerhoff, our home grown coaches have fared better than the power point pretenders. Pick one :!:


Cheers.


That's a cop out bruv :laugh:
But it is your job to criticize?
If you think Rohr is incompetent then offer up who you think will be a good replacement... its not difficult (you seem to think)!


As a conscientious fan, it is my civic duty to criticize. I have already pointed out that there are a proverbial million and one more capable coaches than Rohr. Why should it be up to me to point them out when, at the end of the day, your opinion and mine counts for nothing when it comes to selecting Nigeria’s football coach. However, it is my inalienable and patriotic duty to point out, even if you don’t agree with me, that the present occupant of that position is far less than adequate :!: :!: :!:


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