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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:06 pm 
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The entire defence of the SE have moved to better clubs/leagues.
Ebuehi - Ado Den Haag to Benfica
Idowu - Amker Perm to Lokomotiv Moscow
Echiejile - Cercle Brugge to Monaco
Balogun - Mainz to Brighton
Ekong - Bursaspor to Udinese
Omeruo - Kasimpasa to Leganes
Aina - Hull to Torino
Awaziem - on how way back to Nantes for another loan.
We have never in the history of the SE have so many defenders playing at the top level like the current squad. Could Gernot Rohr have anything to do with it?

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Of course it is. This is what happens when you build a team property, natural progression. Mugus and magas of CE still want him fired because he didn’t beat Argentina and the team didn’t dribble enough.

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Of course it is. This is what happens when you build a team property, natural progression. Mugus and magas of CE still want him fired because he didn’t beat Argentina and the team didn’t dribble enough.
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EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:
Of course it is. This is what happens when you build a team property, natural progression. Mugus and magas of CE still want him fired because he didn’t beat Argentina and the team didn’t dribble enough.

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 Post subject: Re: Rohr Effect?
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Kongi no mind the crooks. It’s not even like Argentina are some small team. This is a team with the likes of aguero, Messi, demaria etc smh folks are Delusional here


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Kongi no mind the crooks. It’s not even like Argentina are some small team. This is a team with the likes of aguero, Messi, demaria etc smh folks are Delusional here


Yep, more big names than the Croatia that beat them 3-0, Spain beat them 8-0, we beat them 4-2, this was not a good Argentine team, everybody knew that, and our goal was NOT to beat them but just don't lose. And we were there but he didn't make the right changes to finish up the game. And don't forget Rohr promised to beat them before the game in the press conference.

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EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:
Of course it is. This is what happens when you build a team property, natural progression. Mugus and magas of CE still want him fired because he didn’t beat Argentina and the team didn’t dribble enough.


Based on his performance, he should be FIRED.

You can retain him based on some nebulous reason(s). But you can't base it on performance.

Talking about players moving, had it been a local coach, they will accuse him of using the World Cup to market players.

I like the double standards...



BTW, the NFF should still fire his assistant having been caught on tape accepting a bribe.

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Kongi no mind the crooks. It’s not even like Argentina are some small team. This is a team with the likes of aguero, Messi, demaria etc smh folks are Delusional here


Your client has made the big money move. Can you take your inferiority complex elsewhere?

Why compete if you are expected to lose to a higher profile team...irrespective of the form of the team? :? :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Rohr Effect?
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john12 wrote:
Kongi no mind the crooks. It’s not even like Argentina are some small team. This is a team with the likes of aguero, Messi, demaria etc smh folks are Delusional here


Yep, more big names than the Croatia that beat them 3-0, Spain beat them 8-0, we beat them 4-2, this was not a good Argentine team, everybody knew that, and our goal was NOT to beat them but just don't lose. And we were there but he didn't make the right changes to finish up the game. And don't forget Rohr promised to beat them before the game in the press conference.

Highlighted is mixing apples with oranges - real game and friendlies.
BTW, can you prove Spain beat Argentina 8-0 or you made that up?
Please stay with the facts and stop writing with certainty, on hypotheticals.

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john12 wrote:
Kongi no mind the crooks. It’s not even like Argentina are some small team. This is a team with the likes of aguero, Messi, demaria etc smh folks are Delusional here


Your client has made the big money move. Can you take your inferiority complex elsewhere?

Why compete if you are expected to lose to a higher profile team...irrespective of the form of the team? :? :roll:



I don tire o :???:

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maceo4 wrote:
john12 wrote:
Kongi no mind the crooks. It’s not even like Argentina are some small team. This is a team with the likes of aguero, Messi, demaria etc smh folks are Delusional here


Yep, more big names than the Croatia that beat them 3-0, Spain beat them 8-0, we beat them 4-2, this was not a good Argentine team, everybody knew that, and our goal was NOT to beat them but just don't lose. And we were there but he didn't make the right changes to finish up the game. And don't forget Rohr promised to beat them before the game in the press conference.

Highlighted is mixing apples with oranges - real game and friendlies.
BTW, can you prove Spain beat Argentina 8-0 or you made that up?
Please stay with the facts and stop writing with certainty, on hypotheticals.


6-1, 8-0 who cares, you get the point. And yes its friendlies but it shows the form of the team coming into the WC, they were in shambles, barely qualified for the WC, piles of pressure on their Chilean coach as he was struggling to find his team, then the injury to their main GK caused further problems. They go into the WC with this bad form and then tied Iceland, got beat 3-0 by Croatia. Then go into crisis mode, we are hearing the players are the ones picking the team. And they are over the moon thanking us for giving them a lifeline with our win vs Iceland, that was their form coming into the game with us. If you want to show their form was any different go ahead or you just want to nit pick on scores, you can go ahead with that as well...

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maceo4 wrote:
john12 wrote:
Kongi no mind the crooks. It’s not even like Argentina are some small team. This is a team with the likes of aguero, Messi, demaria etc smh folks are Delusional here


Yep, more big names than the Croatia that beat them 3-0, Spain beat them 8-0, we beat them 4-2, this was not a good Argentine team, everybody knew that, and our goal was NOT to beat them but just don't lose. And we were there but he didn't make the right changes to finish up the game. And don't forget Rohr promised to beat them before the game in the press conference.



So he should be fired for lying at a press conference and not winning the wod cop. No wonder Chris Giwa is your NFF chairman. :roll:

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EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:
maceo4 wrote:
john12 wrote:
Kongi no mind the crooks. It’s not even like Argentina are some small team. This is a team with the likes of aguero, Messi, demaria etc smh folks are Delusional here


Yep, more big names than the Croatia that beat them 3-0, Spain beat them 8-0, we beat them 4-2, this was not a good Argentine team, everybody knew that, and our goal was NOT to beat them but just don't lose. And we were there but he didn't make the right changes to finish up the game. And don't forget Rohr promised to beat them before the game in the press conference.



So he should be fired for lying at a press conference and not winning the wod cop. No wonder Chris Giwa is your NFF chairman. :roll:


Its up to the NFF (Chris Giwa and co :taunt: ) to determine if he should be fired, but stop making excuses for him losing when he himself expected to win and said as much in the pre-game presser.

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maceo4 wrote:
EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:
maceo4 wrote:
john12 wrote:
Kongi no mind the crooks. It’s not even like Argentina are some small team. This is a team with the likes of aguero, Messi, demaria etc smh folks are Delusional here


Yep, more big names than the Croatia that beat them 3-0, Spain beat them 8-0, we beat them 4-2, this was not a good Argentine team, everybody knew that, and our goal was NOT to beat them but just don't lose. And we were there but he didn't make the right changes to finish up the game. And don't forget Rohr promised to beat them before the game in the press conference.



So he should be fired for lying at a press conference and not winning the wod cop. No wonder Chris Giwa is your NFF chairman. :roll:


Its up to the NFF (Chris Giwa and co :taunt: ) to determine if he should be fired, but stop making excuses for him losing when he himself expected to win and said as much in the pre-game presser.



Was he supposed to say he would draw the game? :shock:

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EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:
maceo4 wrote:
EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:
maceo4 wrote:
john12 wrote:
Kongi no mind the crooks. It’s not even like Argentina are some small team. This is a team with the likes of aguero, Messi, demaria etc smh folks are Delusional here


Yep, more big names than the Croatia that beat them 3-0, Spain beat them 8-0, we beat them 4-2, this was not a good Argentine team, everybody knew that, and our goal was NOT to beat them but just don't lose. And we were there but he didn't make the right changes to finish up the game. And don't forget Rohr promised to beat them before the game in the press conference.



So he should be fired for lying at a press conference and not winning the wod cop. No wonder Chris Giwa is your NFF chairman. :roll:


Its up to the NFF (Chris Giwa and co :taunt: ) to determine if he should be fired, but stop making excuses for him losing when he himself expected to win and said as much in the pre-game presser.



Was he supposed to say he would draw the game? :shock:


Well he did before the Croatia game, he said we were there to learn... :rotf:

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It has nothing to do with Rohr.

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On paper/pound for pound CROATIA and Spain are on the same level as Argentina or even Better but Nigeria isn’t so I don’t know what that goat is even explaining there’s a reason why no neutral predicted that we would win. Also, Argentina is essentially Nigeria bogey team because we have failed to beat them in 4 attempts prior to 2018 Wc. I believe that for all these reasons aforementioned, you have to be delusional, insane, Demented to believe it’s ROhR fault that we lost or he should be terminated for losing to them


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You crooks cannot have your cake and eat it. Whenever there’s any bad news about SE pertaining World Cup, you will blame ROhR but when it’s good news you will say Rohr it’s responsible for it. This goat just said that rohr isn’t responsible for our players transferring to bigger clubs. Please, who Scouted Ebuehi, Idowu into SE??


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Is Rohr now the agent of the Super Eagles players? Shouldn't Rohr also get the credit for Musa's "upward" move to Saudi Arabia? The World Cup is the ultimate in football. If a 64 year old coach goes there with the Nigerian talent at his disposal to "learn", then he should be consigned to his level - Niger, Burkina Faso, Gabon- from whence he came, and allowed to retire gracefully. It actually speaks volumes that the players many consider as not World class are being signed by heralded clubs. So much for Argentina has Aguero, Messi and Di Maria and Croatia has Modric and Rakitic because of the clubs they play for.

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Kongi no mind the crooks. It’s not even like Argentina are some small team. This is a team with the likes of aguero, Messi, demaria etc smh folks are Delusional here


Are you a child? How are people crooks because they want a manager that lost in the first round of the world cup (worse than the last world cup) fired? There may be good reasons to keep him but how is a fan's opinion that he should be fired evidence of dishonesty?


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On paper/pound for pound CROATIA and Spain are on the same level as Argentina or even Better but Nigeria isn’t so I don’t know what that goat is even explaining there’s a reason why no neutral predicted that we would win. Also, Argentina is essentially Nigeria bogey team because we have failed to beat them in 4 attempts prior to 2018 Wc. I believe that for all these reasons aforementioned, you have to be delusional, insane, Demented to believe it’s ROhR fault that we lost or he should be terminated for losing to them


On what paper are you talking about? You just keep making up stuff when facts are presented you run away from the thread and then on another thread start again with the same nonsense. Croatia WAS NOT pound for anything at the same level as Spain going into the WC. They qualified via playoffs, they had to fire their coach as they were at risk of not qualifying. They were no where as a team in the caliber of a Spain who qualified with relative ease and can put about 2-3 top starting 11's that will beat a lot of teams. Here are their relative results leading up to the World Cup. I'm getting tired of this rhetoric that Croatia is at the level of a Spain going into the WC, since when? They had a great run and I dare say overachieved at the WC itself (look at the thrashing they took in the final) and did well to keep winning in extra time even when it looked unlikely, but come on.


3 September 2017[216]2018 FIFA World Cup qualification Croatia 1–0 Kosovo Zagreb, Croatia
5 September 20172018 FIFA World Cup qualification Turkey 1–0 Croatia Eskişehir, Turkey
6 October 20172018 FIFA World Cup qualification Croatia 1–1 Finland Rijeka, Croatia
9 October 20172018 FIFA World Cup qualification Ukraine 0–2 Croatia Kiev, Ukraine
9 November 20172018 FIFA World Cup qualification Croatia 4–1 Greece Zagreb, Croatia
12 November 20172018 FIFA World Cup qualification Greece 0–0 (1–4 agg.) Croatia Piraeus, Greece

23 March 2018Friendly match Peru 2–0 Croatia Miami, United States
27 March 2018Friendly match Mexico 0–1 Croatia Dallas, United States
3 June 2018Friendly match Croatia 0–2 Brazil Liverpool, England
8 June 2018Friendly match Croatia 2–1 Senegal Osijek, Croatia
16 June 20182018 FIFA World Cup Croatia 2–0 Nigeria Kaliningrad, Russia

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COMPARE THIS TO SPAIN:


28 MarchFriendly France 0–2 Spain Stade de France, Paris
2 September2018 FIFA WCQ Spain 3–0 Italy Santiago Bernabéu Stadium, Madrid
5 September2018 FIFA WCQ Liechtenstein 0–8 Spain Rheinpark Stadion, Vaduz
6 October2018 FIFA WCQ Spain 3–0 Albania Rico Pérez, Alicante
9 October2018 FIFA WCQ Israel 0–1 Spain Teddy Stadium, Jerusalem
11 NovemberFriendly Spain 5–0 Costa Rica La Rosaleda Stadium, Málaga
14 NovemberFriendly Russia 3–3 Spain Krestovsky Stadium, Saint Petersburg


23 MarchFriendly Germany 1–1 Spain Esprit Arena, Düsseldorf
27 MarchFriendly Spain 6–1 Argentina Wanda Metropolitano, Madrid
3 JuneFriendly Spain 1–1 Switzerland Estadio de la Cerámica, Villarreal
9 JuneFriendly Tunisia 0–1 Spain Krasnodar Stadium, Krasnodar
15 June2018 FIFA World Cup group stage Portugal 3–3 Spain Fisht Olympic Stadium, Sochi

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maceo4 wrote:
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On paper/pound for pound CROATIA and Spain are on the same level as Argentina or even Better but Nigeria isn’t so I don’t know what that goat is even explaining there’s a reason why no neutral predicted that we would win. Also, Argentina is essentially Nigeria bogey team because we have failed to beat them in 4 attempts prior to 2018 Wc. I believe that for all these reasons aforementioned, you have to be delusional, insane, Demented to believe it’s ROhR fault that we lost or he should be terminated for losing to them


On what paper are you talking about? You just keep making up stuff when facts are presented you run away from the thread and then on another thread start again with the same nonsense. Croatia WAS NOT pound for anything at the same level as Spain going into the WC. They qualified via playoffs, they had to fire their coach as they were at risk of not qualifying. They were no where as a team in the caliber of a Spain who qualified with relative ease and can put about 2-3 top starting 11's that will beat a lot of teams. Here are their relative results leading up to the World Cup. I'm getting tired of this rhetoric that Croatia is at the level of a Spain going into the WC, since when? They had a great run and I dare say overachieved at the WC itself (look at the thrashing they took in the final) and did well to keep winning in extra time even when it looked unlikely, but come on.


3 September 2017[216]2018 FIFA World Cup qualification Croatia 1–0 Kosovo Zagreb, Croatia
5 September 20172018 FIFA World Cup qualification Turkey 1–0 Croatia Eskişehir, Turkey
6 October 20172018 FIFA World Cup qualification Croatia 1–1 Finland Rijeka, Croatia
9 October 20172018 FIFA World Cup qualification Ukraine 0–2 Croatia Kiev, Ukraine
9 November 20172018 FIFA World Cup qualification Croatia 4–1 Greece Zagreb, Croatia
12 November 20172018 FIFA World Cup qualification Greece 0–0 (1–4 agg.) Croatia Piraeus, Greece

23 March 2018Friendly match Peru 2–0 Croatia Miami, United States
27 March 2018Friendly match Mexico 0–1 Croatia Dallas, United States
3 June 2018Friendly match Croatia 0–2 Brazil Liverpool, England
8 June 2018Friendly match Croatia 2–1 Senegal Osijek, Croatia
16 June 20182018 FIFA World Cup Croatia 2–0 Nigeria Kaliningrad, Russia

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COMPARE THIS TO SPAIN:


28 MarchFriendly France 0–2 Spain Stade de France, Paris
2 September2018 FIFA WCQ Spain 3–0 Italy Santiago Bernabéu Stadium, Madrid
5 September2018 FIFA WCQ Liechtenstein 0–8 Spain Rheinpark Stadion, Vaduz
6 October2018 FIFA WCQ Spain 3–0 Albania Rico Pérez, Alicante
9 October2018 FIFA WCQ Israel 0–1 Spain Teddy Stadium, Jerusalem
11 NovemberFriendly Spain 5–0 Costa Rica La Rosaleda Stadium, Málaga
14 NovemberFriendly Russia 3–3 Spain Krestovsky Stadium, Saint Petersburg


23 MarchFriendly Germany 1–1 Spain Esprit Arena, Düsseldorf
27 MarchFriendly Spain 6–1 Argentina Wanda Metropolitano, Madrid
3 JuneFriendly Spain 1–1 Switzerland Estadio de la Cerámica, Villarreal
9 JuneFriendly Tunisia 0–1 Spain Krasnodar Stadium, Krasnodar
15 June2018 FIFA World Cup group stage Portugal 3–3 Spain Fisht Olympic Stadium, Sochi



You're a classic example of what's wrong the Nigerians today and why we can't accomplish even the simplest things like water supply. They see the past a lot clearer than the future. Are you seriously posting croatia's results out of Uefa Zone as evidence of over achieving at the WC? As it occurred to you that the has been building for almost ten yrs before they got to WC final? Wow! :shock:

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EMIR KONGI and his wife John are typical examples of people who suffered extremely from low self esteem all their lives... rather sad to see two grown up men display such defeatist mindsets.


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