FG, Fifa Agree on Working Terms
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Pipe cigar dey sweetmetalalloy wrote:fabio wrote:Enugu II, this is the hardline approach that will not work. If Giwa case gets to the Supreme Court and he wins, what next?Enugu II wrote:Ohenhen1,
TBH, it was a stupid offer in my view but that is what is on the table. I somewhat believe that someone in the government may have played a role in getting Pinnick's group to make such an offer. My concern is that it encourages similar conflicts in the future. I personally want this ban to stick as a lesson for others. Remember Baribote was once ban but that was lifted for peace. Now, Baribote has joined Giwa in this case. They apparently do not consider the ban as something that lasts in Nigeria. You can always beg and have it lifted. So why care?
The someone in govt referred to is the Sport Minister, okay. Everything na Sports Minister.
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Smh! That would only be appropriate if football and FIFA were Nigeria’s “raison d’etre”; and if you think they are, sorry for you you poor fool. And while you’re at it, why don’t you just advocate that NASS be scuttled and let the NFF and FIFA lesgislate laws for Nigeriaohenhen1 wrote:Follow FIFA statutes or stop been a member of FIFA it is that simple. Every member follow the statues. The NASS need to domicile the FIFA statues to prevent this from happening again.
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It is not by force to be a member of FIFA. @Tony. But like every member. You have to obey FIFA rules if you want to be a member of FIFA.
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That’s where you wrong and completely ignorant. FIFA only enforces it’s ever fluid “statutes” selectively on countries that don’t have international clout otherwise the USA should have been suspended indefinitelyohenhen1 wrote:It is not by force to be a member of FIFA. @Tony. But like every member. You have to obey FIFA rules if you want to be a member of FIFA.
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Please give us one example where FIFA didn't enforce their statutes.
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I actually see the wisdom in the FIFA rule on settling internal conflict. Nigeria judiciary is corrupt. Any paid judge can be used to destabilize the NFF. Adopting the FIFA statues will be good for Nigeria.
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The US didn't break any rule. Criminal cases is different from civil cases. FIFA is not stopping Nigeria from jailing officials for corruption. FIFA will frown on a government that disolves the board over corruption allegations. The FBI had every right to investigate FIFA. It was the FIFA ethics committee that removed blatter. CAS sanctioned it.TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:That’s where you wrong and completely ignorant. FIFA only enforces it’s ever fluid “statutes” selectively on countries that don’t have international clout otherwise the USA should have been suspended indefinitelyohenhen1 wrote:It is not by force to be a member of FIFA. @Tony. But like every member. You have to obey FIFA rules if you want to be a member of FIFA.
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My friend, get real or step aside. Are you saying this, completely oblivious of the fact that the federal government pressed criminal charges against key members of the NFF fairly recently and FIFA threatened sanctions against Nigeria if the charges weren’t dropped? You think the FBI has a right to investigate FIFA and the the Federal Government and her agents don’t have a right to investigate the NFFohenhen1 wrote:The US didn't break any rule. Criminal cases is different from civil cases. FIFA is not stopping Nigeria from jailing officials for corruption. FIFA will frown on a government that disolves the board over corruption allegations. The FBI had every right to investigate FIFA. It was the FIFA ethics committee that removed blatter. CAS sanctioned it.TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:That’s where you wrong and completely ignorant. FIFA only enforces it’s ever fluid “statutes” selectively on countries that don’t have international clout otherwise the USA should have been suspended indefinitelyohenhen1 wrote:It is not by force to be a member of FIFA. @Tony. But like every member. You have to obey FIFA rules if you want to be a member of FIFA.
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Fabio,fabio wrote:Enugu II, this is the hardline approach that will not work. If Giwa case gets to the Supreme Court and he wins, what next?Enugu II wrote:Ohenhen1,
TBH, it was a stupid offer in my view but that is what is on the table. I somewhat believe that someone in the government may have played a role in getting Pinnick's group to make such an offer. My concern is that it encourages similar conflicts in the future. I personally want this ban to stick as a lesson for others. Remember Baribote was once ban but that was lifted for peace. Now, Baribote has joined Giwa in this case. They apparently do not consider the ban as something that lasts in Nigeria. You can always beg and have it lifted. So why care?
The someone in govt referred to is the Sport Minister, okay. Everything na Sports Minister.
Why should it not work? It matters very little whether Giwa wins in Supreme Court or not, IMHO. Note that the reason for Giwa's suspension is precisely because he took the matter to the courts. Thus, winning in the courts should not affect whether he is suspended or not. Now, if you are talking about challenging his suspension at CAS then I can see where the winning there should affect the ban.
The problem that I see is that people are hung up on whether the Nigerian courts are superior or not to FIFA. In my opinion, that is irrelevant. The issue is whether this is a matter for courts or not and not about superiority.
Unfortunately, Pinnick and his crew have made what i consider a CARDINAL mistake i.e. agreeing to cancel the ban. If I was in their position, the ban is non-negotiable.
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You don't get it. FIFA is not saying the FG can't jail NFF officials for corruption. FIFA is saying government can't remove officials from their posts. Only FIFA recognized courts can do that.
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Pinnick is a better political strategist than people give him credit for
He managed to get himself elected even after Giwa won the first election...
Helped Get Infantino elected as FIFA president...
He got almighty Hayotu of CAF replaced, ,
and has now out classed the sports minister though some back room maneuvering at FIFA...
The bobo na real Maradona....If only he could do this strategizing for our football fortunes on the field.
He managed to get himself elected even after Giwa won the first election...
Helped Get Infantino elected as FIFA president...
He got almighty Hayotu of CAF replaced, ,
and has now out classed the sports minister though some back room maneuvering at FIFA...
The bobo na real Maradona....If only he could do this strategizing for our football fortunes on the field.
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Giwa should be banished from Nigeria and Dalung should be told to replace his red beret with a thinking cap. Two despicable human beings.
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Spot on. Pinnick is a real man.JACKAL wrote:Pinnick is a better political strategist than people give him credit for
He managed to get himself elected even after Giwa won the first election...
Helped Get Infantino elected as FIFA president...
He got almighty Hayotu of CAF replaced, ,
and has now out classed the sports minister though some back room maneuvering at FIFA...
The bobo na real Maradona....If only he could do this strategizing for our football fortunes on the field.
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I agree with E11's take. People need to be taught lessons to prevent nonsense like this in future.oloye wrote:Giwa should be banished from Nigeria and Dalung should be told to replace his red beret with a thinking cap. Two despicable human beings.
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My brother, Giwa never had a clue. He is just playground bully. He alienates and divides people. Pinnick has taught him a lesson. The man and the Sports Minister are a joke, embarrassment and disgrace.fabio wrote:Withdraw based on what?EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:
Not good enough. Giwa has to either withdraw his lawsuit or the judge has to rule that Giwa has no case. I hope fifa doesn’t fall for this trick.
They have even offered him an olive branch, which is not deserved but the Man is clueless, he will not accept and will look to cause even more problems. He really should be banished and kicked to the kerb along with that Sports Minister.
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... But every real man has his Achilles heels, which is Giwa.Waffiman wrote:Spot on. Pinnick is a real man.JACKAL wrote:Pinnick is a better political strategist than people give him credit for
He managed to get himself elected even after Giwa won the first election...
Helped Get Infantino elected as FIFA president...
He got almighty Hayotu of CAF replaced, ,
and has now out classed the sports minister though some back room maneuvering at FIFA...
The bobo na real Maradona....If only he could do this strategizing for our football fortunes on the field.
Chief, why is there a collective silent on what happened in camp btw Rohr and some players. If na Keshi or Amodu the press would have had a field day.
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I don't think lifting the ban in Nigeria will remove his FIFA ban.Enugu II wrote:ohenhen1 wrote:I don't want Chris Giwa to be part of Nigerian football. Pinnick would be stupid to lift the ban. Seek a life time ban.
Ohenhen1,
TBH, it was a stupid offer in my view but that is what is on the table. I somewhat believe that someone in the government may have played a role in getting Pinnick's group to make such an offer. My concern is that it encourages similar conflicts in the future. I personally want this ban to stick as a lesson for others. Remember Baribote was once ban but that was lifted for peace. Now, Baribote has joined Giwa in this case. They apparently do not consider the ban as something that lasts in Nigeria. You can always beg and have it lifted. So why care?
From the antics we've seen of GIwa so far it would be madness to allow such a person to be head of the NFF. That would effectively be putting your hand firmly on the self-destruct button. In any case, I think Giwa has already burnt his bridges. Even if you take Pinnick out of the equation, I just don't see how other stakeholders in Nigerian football will ever accept Giwa in genuine elections. Dalung, of course, would attempt to rig the elections so if Giwa ever becomes NFF boss it would be through illegitimate means.
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Not me. I have given account already.fabio wrote:... But every real man has his Achilles heels, which is Giwa.Waffiman wrote:Spot on. Pinnick is a real man.JACKAL wrote:Pinnick is a better political strategist than people give him credit for
He managed to get himself elected even after Giwa won the first election...
Helped Get Infantino elected as FIFA president...
He got almighty Hayotu of CAF replaced, ,
and has now out classed the sports minister though some back room maneuvering at FIFA...
The bobo na real Maradona....If only he could do this strategizing for our football fortunes on the field.
Chief, why is there a collective silent on what happened in camp btw Rohr and some players. If na Keshi or Amodu the press would have had a field day.
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