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AFCON U17 - Nigeria wins the Group

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 8:21 pm
by Otitokoro
Nigeria actually won the group after CIV flogged Burkina Faso 3-0 this afternoon.
We play Niger next, who came in second in the other group.

Semi Final Groupings are as follows:
SF1. Ghana vs Cote D'Ivoire
SF2. Nigeria vs Niger

Re: AFCON U17 - Nigeria wins the Group

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 8:38 pm
by lacidi
I dont know why the streaming site is showing 1-1

Re: AFCON U17 - Nigeria wins the Group

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 8:46 pm
by Otitokoro
Yes, that was initially confusing.
But the right score was (0-3).
lacidi wrote:I dont know why the streaming site is showing 1-1

Re: AFCON U17 - Nigeria wins the Group

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 8:49 pm
by marutimon
Cote d'Ivoire qualify as second, while Burkina Faso miss out after beating Nigeria in the first game.

SEMIS:
Ghana - Cote d'Ivoire
Nigeria - Niger

Expected final:
Ghana - Nigeria

Re: AFCON U17 - Nigeria wins the Group

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:51 pm
by Damunk
who was it that was laughing at our boys' small sizes? :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

Re: AFCON U17 - Nigeria wins the Group

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:18 pm
by Enyi
They topped their group.....? Must be age cheats!!, thought that they were within the age limit when they lost to B.Faso but topping the group......am back thinking that they must be age cheats......

For them not to be cheats....they must lose to Niger, that’s when I will believe that they are not cunning MRI Scans :roll:

Re: AFCON U17 - Nigeria wins the Group

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:28 pm
by chendosplastic
Enyi wrote:They topped their group.....? Must be age cheats!!, thought that they were within the age limit when they lost to B.Faso but topping the group......am back thinking that they must be age cheats......

For them not to be cheats....they must lose to Niger, that’s when I will believe that they are not cunning MRI Scans :roll:
:lol: :lol: you garrit! :clap: :clap:

Re: AFCON U17 - Nigeria wins the Group

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:36 pm
by Odas
Enyi wrote:They topped their group.....? Must be age cheats!!, thought that they were within the age limit when they lost to B.Faso but topping the group......am back thinking that they must be age cheats......

For them not to be cheats....they must lose to Niger, that’s when I will believe that they are not cunning MRI Scans :roll:
Bros, don't mind the people who always see/have something "BAD" to say about our players/teams.

Re: AFCON U17 - Nigeria wins the Group

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:26 pm
by Adisboy
Enyi wrote:They topped their group.....? Must be age cheats!!, thought that they were within the age limit when they lost to B.Faso but topping the group......am back thinking that they must be age cheats......

For them not to be cheats....they must lose to Niger, that’s when I will believe that they are not cunning MRI Scans :roll:
:agree: :clap:

Re: AFCON U17 - Nigeria wins the Group

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:31 pm
by ohenhen1
We look at historical data. Nigeria has cheated in the past at this level. 25 out 40 passed the recent MRI test. The MRI is not accurate. Some underage players don't pass it. Some overage players can pass the test.

But 15 out of 40 failing it proves to me that Nigeria is still trying to cheat.

Re: AFCON U17 - Nigeria wins the Group

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:51 am
by jette1
ohenhen1 wrote:We look at historical data. Nigeria has cheated in the past at this level. 25 out 40 passed the recent MRI test. The MRI is not accurate. Some underage players don't pass it. Some overage players can pass the test.

But 15 out of 40 failing it proves to me that Nigeria is still trying to cheat.
ol boi drop your hungry crusade. No one cares if you are arch angel Michael.

Re: AFCON U17 - Nigeria wins the Group

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:10 am
by Enyi
ohenhen1 wrote:We look at historical data. Nigeria has cheated in the past at this level. 25 out 40 passed the recent MRI test. The MRI is not accurate. Some underage players don't pass it. Some overage players can pass the test.

But 15 out of 40 failing it proves to me that Nigeria is still trying to cheat.
Ohenhen1, historically there were a few bad eggs in the pool, that is completely right. FIFA then introduced a skewed test to eliminate age cheats, still ppl here doubt the ages of the boys

The MRI test will eliminate 100% of age cheats in sub-saharan Africa but also will eliminate a huge chuck of genuine under-17 players in sub-saharan Africa. this test is used today because African don't know their rights and poor leadership in CAF

Go and read these.....

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... age-fraud/

now this is the study that FIFA used to justify this........even in that study, the only paper involving sub-saharan Africans, this case malawi, showed that the test does not correlate, still FIFA implemented it.......and noone from CAF vetted it or questioned it,

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2465138/

REMEMBER.....i am not saying that they werent age cheats in the past.....i am just saying that if a Nigerian boy passes an MRI scan....he should never be questioned again.

Re: AFCON U17 - Nigeria wins the Group

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:10 am
by onovo
Enyi wrote:
ohenhen1 wrote:We look at historical data. Nigeria has cheated in the past at this level. 25 out 40 passed the recent MRI test. The MRI is not accurate. Some underage players don't pass it. Some overage players can pass the test.

But 15 out of 40 failing it proves to me that Nigeria is still trying to cheat.
Ohenhen1, historically there were a few bad eggs in the pool, that is completely right. FIFA then introduced a skewed test to eliminate age cheats, still ppl here doubt the ages of the boys

The MRI test will eliminate 100% of age cheats in sub-saharan Africa but also will eliminate a huge chuck of genuine under-17 players in sub-saharan Africa. this test is used today because African don't know their rights and poor leadership in CAF

Go and read these.....

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... age-fraud/

now this is the study that FIFA used to justify this........even in that study, the only paper involving sub-saharan Africans, this case malawi, showed that the test does not correlate, still FIFA implemented it.......and noone from CAF vetted it or questioned it,

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2465138/

REMEMBER.....i am not saying that they werent age cheats in the past.....i am just saying that if a Nigerian boy passes an MRI scan....he should never be questioned again.
No point over-flogging issues. The major concern over MRI as raised by researchers is its potential to disqualify a genuine U-17 lad. As for an over age player passing the standardised test which CAF/FIFA uses, it is almost impossible or extremely difficult because the test simply gives an information an how to determine a person who is still growing through the examination of the growth plate in the wrist. A fusion shows the person is no longer growing in bone. According to https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/320676.php "Most boys will stop growing taller by age 16 and will usually have developed fully by 18." As for girls theirs is around 16, that is why FIFA dont use MRI for girls. The MRI test tells you the person is still growing or not. FIFA medical expert says complete fusion occurs at 18.3 years and the grading of 1 to 5 is for 16-17 years old, though there are very few instance of 16 years old with complete fusion, which is why the MRI is unfair, but the conclusion is that since the advent of CAF MRI the U-17 competition has been battled by strictly teenagers, age cheating has been drastically reduced, this is evidenced even from the looks of all the players of the several national teams taking part in the U-17 competition in Niger. God bless you.

Re: AFCON U17 - Nigeria wins the Group

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:12 am
by Purity
So what happens to player who is born in UK or Germany where the birth certificate 's authentic and fails the MRI test?

Re: AFCON U17 - Nigeria wins the Group

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:22 pm
by Enyi
Purity wrote:So what happens to player who is born in UK or Germany where the birth certificate 's authentic and fails the MRI test?
they are accepted on appeal....

Re: AFCON U17 - Nigeria wins the Group

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:35 pm
by Damunk
Purity wrote:So what happens to player who is born in UK or Germany where the birth certificate 's authentic and fails the MRI test?
There's a case of twin brothers, one of whom 'failed' the MRI test.

Re: AFCON U17 - Nigeria wins the Group

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:44 pm
by ohenhen1
15 out of 40 failed the test for Nigeria. What is the margin of error for the test?

Re: AFCON U17 - Nigeria wins the Group

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:54 pm
by metalalloy
Enyi wrote:They topped their group.....? Must be age cheats!!, thought that they were within the age limit when they lost to B.Faso but topping the group......am back thinking that they must be age cheats......

For them not to be cheats....they must lose to Niger, that’s when I will believe that they are not cunning MRI Scans :roll:

:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

Re: AFCON U17 - Nigeria wins the Group

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:55 pm
by metalalloy
ohenhen1 wrote:15 out of 40 failed the test for Nigeria. What is the margin of error for the test?

Higher than your IQ.

Re: AFCON U17 - Nigeria wins the Group

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:11 pm
by jette1
ohenhen1 wrote:15 out of 40 failed the test for Nigeria. What is the margin of error for the test?
its really ignorant to become this emotionally invested in this subject because if you really want to get down to it age cheat starts even on a more in depth molecular and cellular level and continues through prenatal phase of pregnancy and after birth child development, nurturanc and socialization phases of life cycles. My point to you is that people have always applied variances of head start all designed to give a child an advantage over others. No two children ever start life on equal footing. so because 2 children emerged from the womb on same calendar date does not really imply they have had equal justice in life and therefore somehow should now now be measured and critiqued on how they are performing in life with date they exited the womb being the sole all encompassing life equalizer. someone somewhere was already disadvantaged and cheated before the get go and thats even before onward associated environmental deprivation which yet adds even more blatant level of cheats to the child's life. and you wanna talk about age cheat,. niga please,

Re: AFCON U17 - Nigeria wins the Group

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:45 pm
by joao
ohenhen1 wrote:We look at historical data. Nigeria has cheated in the past at this level. 25 out 40 passed the recent MRI test. The MRI is not accurate. Some underage players don't pass it. Some overage players can pass the test.

But 15 out of 40 failing it proves to me that Nigeria is still trying to cheat.
Historically, dinosaurs roamed the earth, and the sun did not set on the British empire.
Now what's up is 'the guy trying to ride on a high horse'. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Cheers!!!

Re: AFCON U17 - Nigeria wins the Group

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:31 pm
by Enyi
Damunk wrote:
Purity wrote:So what happens to player who is born in UK or Germany where the birth certificate 's authentic and fails the MRI test?
There's a case of twin brothers, one of whom 'failed' the MRI test.
their parents lied to them......

Re: AFCON U17 - Nigeria wins the Group

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:59 pm
by Odas
jette1 wrote:
ohenhen1 wrote:We look at historical data. Nigeria has cheated in the past at this level. 25 out 40 passed the recent MRI test. The MRI is not accurate. Some underage players don't pass it. Some overage players can pass the test.

But 15 out of 40 failing it proves to me that Nigeria is still trying to cheat.
ol boi drop your hungry crusade. No one cares if you are arch angel Michael.
I have no proof, but based on the position Ohenhen1 has taken, I believe he will NOT hesitate to reduce the amount of public money in his care if given the chance