Also for the first time, Gernot Rohr, out of necessity offered his rarely used 3-5-2 against an African opposition. However, his plans to soak up the midfield by adding an additional player in the absence of regulars, who ordinarily would have strutted out in midfield, met with very little success. It did create opportunities in quick breakaways especially early in the game when Ahmed Musa threatened to be a handful for the South African defense. Besides those moments, the midfield was dominated by South Africans who bossed the space with 57% possession.
Ahmed Musa (cpt-7) -- 6.8 -- Although he faded in the second half because of tiredness, Musa was a handful for the South Africans much of the first half. One thing about this player that has been greatly underestimated is his penchant for making passes that lead to goals. Today, Iheanacho could have been a beneficiary of one of such passes.
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Ahmed Musa (cpt-7) -- 6.8 -- Although he faded in the second half because of tiredness, Musa was a handful for the South Africans much of the first half. One thing about this player that has been greatly underestimated is his penchant for making passes that lead to goals. Today, Iheanacho could have been a beneficiary of one of such passes.
The full report can be accessed by clicking the link below:
Thanks for the summary review, as I missed the first half...
Musa’s offside “goal” should have stood, and makes a case for VAR at AFCON 2019.
Re: Nigeria Qualifies: Report + Ratings
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 5:00 pm
by The YeyeMan
Then with eight minutes left on the day, it appeared that Musa had scored off an Iwobi pass but again the goal was overruled as offsides in an extremely close situation.
Nothing close about it. Clearly onside.
Re: Nigeria Qualifies: Report + Ratings
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 5:04 pm
by Gotti
The YeyeMan wrote:
Then with eight minutes left on the day, it appeared that Musa had scored off an Iwobi pass but again the goal was overruled as offsides in an extremely close situation.
Nothing close about it. Clearly onside.
That’s what I thought as well...
The last Bafana defender clearly played both Musa and Success on.
Re: Nigeria Qualifies: Report + Ratings
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 5:29 pm
by Chief Ogbunigwe
Gotti wrote:
The YeyeMan wrote:
Then with eight minutes left on the day, it appeared that Musa had scored off an Iwobi pass but again the goal was overruled as offsides in an extremely close situation.
Nothing close about it. Clearly onside.
That’s what I thought as well...
The last Bafana defender clearly played both Musa and Success on.
it was not even close
Re: Nigeria Qualifies: Report + Ratings
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 5:50 pm
by Abbey
Here is why the linesman flagged Musa for offside. If you look at the video again, Musa was initially in offside position BEFORE he received the ball. When he became the first player to receive the ball onside, the linesman waived the flag.
On the other hand the first half 'offside' goal should have counted. Musa did receive the ball onside before passing the ball to an open Iheanacho for a tap in.
Re: Nigeria Qualifies: Report + Ratings
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 5:51 pm
by Enugu II
Abbey wrote:Here is why the linesman flagged Musa for offside. If you look at the video again, Musa was initially in offside position BEFORE he received the ball. When he became the first player to receive the ball onside, the linesman waived the flag.
On the other hand the first half 'offside' goal should have counted. Musa did receive the ball onside before passing the ball to an open Iheanacho for a tap in.
That is exactly my take watching the replay immediately after.
Abbey wrote:Here is why the linesman flagged Musa for offside. If you look at the video again, Musa was initially in offside position BEFORE he received the ball. When he became the first player to receive the ball onside, the linesman waived the flag.
On the other hand the first half 'offside' goal should have counted. Musa did receive the ball onside before passing the ball to an open Iheanacho for a tap in.
That is exactly my take watching the replay immediately after.
Have to see it again...
But the immediate replay showed both Musa and Success onside when the pass was made.
I think the assistant was watching both players instead of the defense...
All the media reports (including SA media and fan forum) thought the goal should have stood.
Re: Nigeria Qualifies: Report + Ratings
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:20 pm
by Odas
Gotti wrote:
Enugu II wrote:
Abbey wrote:Here is why the linesman flagged Musa for offside. If you look at the video again, Musa was initially in offside position BEFORE he received the ball. When he became the first player to receive the ball onside, the linesman waived the flag.
On the other hand the first half 'offside' goal should have counted. Musa did receive the ball onside before passing the ball to an open Iheanacho for a tap in.
That is exactly my take watching the replay immediately after.
Have to see it again...
But the immediate replay showed both Musa and Success onside when the pass was made.
I think the assistant was watching both players instead of the defense... All the media reports (including SA media and fan forum) thought the goal should have stood.
Good! It means our complaints are "legit."
Re: Nigeria Qualifies: Report + Ratings
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:26 pm
by Gotti
Abbey wrote:Here is why the linesman flagged Musa for offside. If you look at the video again, Musa was initially in offside position BEFORE he received the ball. When he became the first player to receive the ball onside, the linesman waived the flag.
On the other hand the first half 'offside' goal should have counted. Musa did receive the ball onside before passing the ball to an open Iheanacho for a tap in.
Think you are wrong buddy...
See minute 10.08 of the video below.
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Re: Nigeria Qualifies: Report + Ratings
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:57 pm
by Enugu II
Gotti wrote:
Abbey wrote:Here is why the linesman flagged Musa for offside. If you look at the video again, Musa was initially in offside position BEFORE he received the ball. When he became the first player to receive the ball onside, the linesman waived the flag.
On the other hand the first half 'offside' goal should have counted. Musa did receive the ball onside before passing the ball to an open Iheanacho for a tap in.
Think you are wrong buddy...
See minute 10.08 of the video below.
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I just saw it on Youtube also and it is indeed a very good goal that was wrongly called off. On the initial replay in the live game, I thought it could have been marginally offside but after watching the youtube it is a very clear goal. Nothing marginal there.
Re: Nigeria Qualifies: Report + Ratings
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:07 pm
by Abbey
Gotti wrote:
Abbey wrote:Here is why the linesman flagged Musa for offside. If you look at the video again, Musa was initially in offside position BEFORE he received the ball. When he became the first player to receive the ball onside, the linesman waived the flag.
On the other hand the first half 'offside' goal should have counted. Musa did receive the ball onside before passing the ball to an open Iheanacho for a tap in.
Think you are wrong buddy...
See minute 10.08 of the video below.
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The highlight only showed Musa when he was onside and briefly after he was offside. I am looking at the full replay again and yes he was the first player to touch Iwobi's splitting pass. Now, if Success had gotten hold of that pass no doubt the goal will count.
Re: Nigeria Qualifies: Report + Ratings
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:14 pm
by Enugu II
Abbey wrote:
Gotti wrote:
Abbey wrote:Here is why the linesman flagged Musa for offside. If you look at the video again, Musa was initially in offside position BEFORE he received the ball. When he became the first player to receive the ball onside, the linesman waived the flag.
On the other hand the first half 'offside' goal should have counted. Musa did receive the ball onside before passing the ball to an open Iheanacho for a tap in.
Think you are wrong buddy...
See minute 10.08 of the video below.
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The highlight only showed Musa when he was onside and briefly after he was offside. I am looking at the full replay again and yes he was the first player to touch Iwobi's splitting pass. Now, if Success had gotten hold of that pass no doubt the goal will count.
Abbey,
Youtube video shows he was onside at the time Iwobi made the pass and that is what s critical. I initially thought he was offsides but the video shows clearly that he was on.
Re: Nigeria Qualifies: Report + Ratings
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:17 pm
by metalalloy
Abbey wrote:
Gotti wrote:
Abbey wrote:Here is why the linesman flagged Musa for offside. If you look at the video again, Musa was initially in offside position BEFORE he received the ball. When he became the first player to receive the ball onside, the linesman waived the flag.
On the other hand the first half 'offside' goal should have counted. Musa did receive the ball onside before passing the ball to an open Iheanacho for a tap in.
Think you are wrong buddy...
See minute 10.08 of the video below.
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The highlight only showed Musa when he was onside and briefly after he was offside. I am looking at the full replay again and yes he was the first player to touch Iwobi's splitting pass. Now, if Success had gotten hold of that pass no doubt the goal will count.
Bros you are incorect. Musa was onside in both cases. All that matters is where musa was when the ball was played.
Re: Nigeria Qualifies: Report + Ratings
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:19 pm
by Gotti
Abbey wrote:The highlight only showed Musa when he was onside and briefly after he was offside. I am looking at the full replay again and yes he was the first player to touch Iwobi's splitting pass. Now, if Success had gotten hold of that pass no doubt the goal will count.
Bros, the KEY is where the players was WHEN the ball was actually played...
FREEZE the clip at 10.08, the moment Iwobi played the ball (the pass), the defender kept Musa ONSIDE.
Re: Nigeria Qualifies: Report + Ratings
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:21 pm
by lacidi
Abbey wrote:
Gotti wrote:
Abbey wrote:Here is why the linesman flagged Musa for offside. If you look at the video again, Musa was initially in offside position BEFORE he received the ball. When he became the first player to receive the ball onside, the linesman waived the flag.
On the other hand the first half 'offside' goal should have counted. Musa did receive the ball onside before passing the ball to an open Iheanacho for a tap in.
Think you are wrong buddy...
See minute 10.08 of the video below.
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The highlight only showed Musa when he was onside and briefly after he was offside. I am looking at the full replay again and yes he was the first player to touch Iwobi's splitting pass. Now, if Success had gotten hold of that pass no doubt the goal will count.
Old boy it seems you dont know the offside rule. The only thing that matters in the offside rule is where the receiving player was at the time the PASS was made. It doesn't matter where he was at any other time. IT IS ONLY WHEN THE BALL LEAVES THE FOOT OF THE PASSING PLAYER THAT MATTERS.
There is nothing like 1st player to touch. The offside rule does not have anything to do with who touched 1st.
Re: Nigeria Qualifies: Report + Ratings
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:21 pm
by green4life
Enugu II wrote:
Gotti wrote:
Abbey wrote:Here is why the linesman flagged Musa for offside. If you look at the video again, Musa was initially in offside position BEFORE he received the ball. When he became the first player to receive the ball onside, the linesman waived the flag.
On the other hand the first half 'offside' goal should have counted. Musa did receive the ball onside before passing the ball to an open Iheanacho for a tap in.
Think you are wrong buddy...
See minute 10.08 of the video below.
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I just saw it on Youtube also and it is indeed a very good goal that was wrongly called off. On the initial replay in the live game, I thought it could have been marginally offside but after watching the youtube it is a very clear goal. Nothing marginal there.
Yep. You’ve echoed my sentiments as well. We got robbed of two clean goals. That said, the one disallowed in the first half was quite criminal because there is no explanation possible to justify the decision.
Re: Nigeria Qualifies: Report + Ratings
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:37 pm
by The YeyeMan
green4life wrote:
Enugu II wrote:
Gotti wrote:
Abbey wrote:Here is why the linesman flagged Musa for offside. If you look at the video again, Musa was initially in offside position BEFORE he received the ball. When he became the first player to receive the ball onside, the linesman waived the flag.
On the other hand the first half 'offside' goal should have counted. Musa did receive the ball onside before passing the ball to an open Iheanacho for a tap in.
Think you are wrong buddy...
See minute 10.08 of the video below.
[/video]
I just saw it on Youtube also and it is indeed a very good goal that was wrongly called off. On the initial replay in the live game, I thought it could have been marginally offside but after watching the youtube it is a very clear goal. Nothing marginal there.
Yep. You’ve echoed my sentiments as well. We got robbed of two clean goals. That said, the one disallowed in the first half was quite criminal because there is no explanation possible to justify the decision.
The second half decision was worse. The defender is clearly playing both players onside - c'mon it even looked onside in real time.
Re: Nigeria Qualifies: Report + Ratings
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:57 pm
by Kneedeep
This is the commentary from a concerned party
Re: Nigeria Qualifies: Report + Ratings
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:35 pm
by Molue Conductor
Gotti wrote:
Enugu II wrote:
Abbey wrote:Here is why the linesman flagged Musa for offside. If you look at the video again, Musa was initially in offside position BEFORE he received the ball. When he became the first player to receive the ball onside, the linesman waived the flag.
On the other hand the first half 'offside' goal should have counted. Musa did receive the ball onside before passing the ball to an open Iheanacho for a tap in.
That is exactly my take watching the replay immediately after.
Have to see it again...
But the immediate replay showed both Musa and Success onside when the pass was made.
I think the assistant was watching both players instead of the defense...
All the media reports (including SA media and fan forum) thought the goal should have stood.
Just watched it, they were both well onside when the pass was played
Re: Nigeria Qualifies: Report + Ratings
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:59 pm
by Orion
Abbey wrote:
Gotti wrote:
Abbey wrote:Here is why the linesman flagged Musa for offside. If you look at the video again, Musa was initially in offside position BEFORE he received the ball. When he became the first player to receive the ball onside, the linesman waived the flag.
On the other hand the first half 'offside' goal should have counted. Musa did receive the ball onside before passing the ball to an open Iheanacho for a tap in.
Think you are wrong buddy...
See minute 10.08 of the video below.
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The highlight only showed Musa when he was onside and briefly after he was offside. I am looking at the full replay again and yes he was the first player to touch Iwobi's splitting pass. Now, if Success had gotten hold of that pass no doubt the goal will count.
Musa came back onside BEFORE the ball was passed to him. It was such a clear goal with no grey areas that one has to wonder if bribery was involved here. A CAF linesman should not be getting that kind of decision wrong.
Re: Nigeria Qualifies: Report + Ratings
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 2:31 pm
by Damunk
lacidi wrote:
Abbey wrote:
Gotti wrote:
Abbey wrote:Here is why the linesman flagged Musa for offside. If you look at the video again, Musa was initially in offside position BEFORE he received the ball. When he became the first player to receive the ball onside, the linesman waived the flag.
On the other hand the first half 'offside' goal should have counted. Musa did receive the ball onside before passing the ball to an open Iheanacho for a tap in.
Think you are wrong buddy...
See minute 10.08 of the video below.
[/video]
The highlight only showed Musa when he was onside and briefly after he was offside. I am looking at the full replay again and yes he was the first player to touch Iwobi's splitting pass. Now, if Success had gotten hold of that pass no doubt the goal will count.
Old boy it seems you dont know the offside rule. The only thing that matters in the offside rule is where the receiving player was at the time the PASS was made. It doesn't matter where he was at any other time. IT IS ONLY WHEN THE BALL LEAVES THE FOOT OF THE PASSING PLAYER THAT MATTERS.
There is nothing like 1st player to touch. The offside rule does not have anything to do with who touched 1st.
Abbey obviously does not understand the off-side rule.
Meanwhile this stupid Youtube video goes blank at 8:43, leaving the rest of the clip showing some silly ad for almost 2 minutes.
Same youtube video you guys are watching.
How is that even possible?
Fortunately I saw the second disallowed goal elsewhere.