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in truth he was a poor player for a long time, but dude has really improved his game.

He is much better at taking on players, but what I like most is that his decision making and passing has really improved. Couple that with his deadly pace, his goal scoring threat, and his defending.

At one point late in the 2nd half he was tracking back all the way into our box to make a tackle, and this playing as a CENTRE FORWARD.

he is a deserved starter for SE. The guy played very well again today and scored another legit goal that was called off. His goal per game ratio of late is very very good.

Glad to see his game come along way. Very key player for us, complete baller right now.
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Yep. That's what criticism should do to a player - spur them on to improve.
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That’s only to you. Musa has always been a WORLD CLASS player that scores when utilized correctly. Musa is SE greatest striker in my Generation
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john12 wrote:That’s only to you. Musa has always been a WORLD CLASS player that scores when utilized correctly. Musa is SE greatest striker in my Generation
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Musa is trash on the wings, as a striker he is dope, but how long are we gonna keep pretending that Musa is a winger? With the emergence of players like chukwueze and Kalu, musa's hope of first 11 place is playing as a striker. Musa's days are numbered on the wings, Rohr cannot stop chukwueze and Kalu from their true potentials. It's just a matter of time . The SE front three will include Kalu, chukwueze, and a striker. John12 can jump in a lake
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john12 wrote:That’s only to you. Musa has always been a WORLD CLASS player that scores when utilized correctly. Musa is SE greatest striker in my Generation
Here we go again. Musa has improved he hasn't always been at the level he is currently. Lets turn a blind eye to his previous inadequacies and pretend he has always been world class. Omo, it doesn't hurt to give "constructive criticism" rather than ignore short comings. There is always room for improvement.
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Yes he has the difference is position. After all, the same musa scored 2 goals 4 years ago and was already balling for cska Moscow
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vancity eagle wrote:in truth he was a poor player for a long time, but dude has really improved his game.

He is much better at taking on players, but what I like most is that his decision making and passing has really improved. Couple that with his deadly pace, his goal scoring threat, and his defending.

At one point late in the 2nd half he was tracking back all the way into our box to make a tackle, and this playing as a CENTRE FORWARD.

he is a deserved starter for SE. The guy played very well again today and scored another legit goal that was called off. His goal per game ratio of late is very very good.

Glad to see his game come along way. Very key player for us, complete baller right now.
Well said. I give you credit for giving Musa some credit.
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9jaMan wrote:Musa is trash on the wings, as a striker he is dope, but how long are we gonna keep pretending that Musa is a winger? With the emergence of players like chukwueze and Kalu, musa's hope of first 11 place is playing as a striker. Musa's days are numbered on the wings, Rohr cannot stop chukwueze and Kalu from their true potentials. It's just a matter of time . The SE front three will include Kalu, chukwueze, and a striker. John12 can jump in a lake
I don't know if I agree about Musa being trash on the wings. Some of his best moments today were him being out wide, rather than in the middle. He also played on the wings vs Libya and played well. What made him so infuriating on the wings in the past was his piss poor decision making and passing and as I noted he has drastically improved in this area. Remember how well he played in the Argentina friendly as well. I have to commend Rohr for sticking with Musa and getting the best out of him.

What I do not like is the 352 , I prefer the 433 lineup and what I think we need are a top 3 that can interchange positions, where every player can be up top or on either flank. It is really hard to choose 3 with so many options, but a player like Iheanacho will be the major loser IMO. he just has too little to offer ATM. I think Success would be great because of his pace, size, technique, and ability to operate up top or out wide. Then we have Kalu and Chukwueze, perhaps Lookman, and then Bazee as well.

What we cannot have is Rohr looking on cluelessly without making a sub with so many potent options on the bench. If things are not working and somebody is not performing they must be yanked immediately. We have too many weapons in the waiting to allow somebody to stay on the pitch being in effective.

Let us see what Rohr does vs Uganda.

I want to see a front 3 of Success, Chukwueze, and Onyekuru with Iwobi operating behind them.

Rohr owes these players a decent opportunity to stake a claim.
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If you are going to wear the captains armband at any level you should up your game,a championship captain should put on a Premiership performance to raise his team!
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But the same fate that happened to likes of NSOFOR, okoronwko, and a host of others that SE Nigerian born head coaches discarded at the slightest stumble would have befallen Musa had it not been for ROHR.
That's the difference between minds from developed Nations and Nigeria; You encourage people to be their best . Had Rohr listened to Mugus on CE Musa would have been history long ago. Same goes for a lot of Nigerians written off at home who leave Nigeria and make it abroad.

Nsofor had potential to be the deadliest striker ever to come out of Africa was Rohr around. Instead we took Uchebo to Brazil ahead of Nsofor; wahoooo!!!! Keshi I would never forgive him for that
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jette1 wrote:But the same fate that happened to likes of NSOFOR, okoronwko, and a host of others that SE Nigerian born head coaches discarded at the slightest stumble would have befallen Musa had it not been for ROHR.
That's the difference between minds from developed Nations and Nigeria; You encourage people to be their best .

Nsofor had potential to be the deadliest striker ever to come out of Africa was Rohr around. Instead we took Uchebo to Brazil ahead of Nsofor; wahoooo!!!! Keshi I would never forgive him for that
You're right,a coach is supposed to get the best out a player and trust is a major part of that.
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vancity eagle wrote:in truth he was a poor player for a long time, but dude has really improved his game.

He is much better at taking on players, but what I like most is that his decision making and passing has really improved. Couple that with his deadly pace, his goal scoring threat, and his defending.

At one point late in the 2nd half he was tracking back all the way into our box to make a tackle, and this playing as a CENTRE FORWARD.

he is a deserved starter for SE. The guy played very well again today and scored another legit goal that was called off. His goal per game ratio of late is very very good.

Glad to see his game come along way. Very key player for us, complete baller right now.
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jette1 wrote:But the same fate that happened to likes of NSOFOR, okoronwko, and a host of others that SE Nigerian born head coaches discarded at the slightest stumble would have befallen Musa had it not been for ROHR.
That's the difference between minds from developed Nations and Nigeria;You encourage people to be their best .

Nsofor had potential to be the deadliest striker ever to come out of Africa was Rohr around. Instead we took Uchebo to Brazil ahead of Nsofor; wahoooo!!!! Keshi I would never forgive him for that
You're right,a coach is supposed to get the best out a player and trust is a major part of that.
These two low-esteemed self-haters again... :lol:
Same Musa that debuted and played unbrokenly in the SE (under 3 different “Nigeria-born” coaches). SMH

Funny how the same Musa had the exact same WC performance at the 2014 WC under “a mind from Nigeria” (2 goals) as he had under a “mind from developed nations (sic)” that is now considered by some mentally-subjugated stool samplers as apparently worthy of the Ballon D’or. Meanwhile, where is Simy Nwankwo? Hopefully he has not been “discarded at the slightest stumble”. Where is Brown Ideye, who STARTED in our first WCQ under Herr “mind from develop nations”? Where’s Musa Muhammed, yet another STARTER in the first competitive game (ANCQ vs Tanzania) under “mind from developed nations”? Where’s Anderson Esiti, who played in the first 2018 WCQs under “mind from developed nations”? Where’s Anthony Nwakaeme who STARTED in the last WCQ under the esteemed “mind from developed nations” I’d be darned, but it would appear that these STARTERS and players have been “discarded at the slightest stumble”. SMDH @ sheer idolatry ignorance.
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Eaglezbeak wrote:You're right,a coach is supposed to get the best out a player and trust is a major part of that.
So why were you not advocating that the coach “get the best out” of Echiéjilé? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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jette1 wrote:But the same fate that happened to likes of NSOFOR, okoronwko, and a host of others that SE Nigerian born head coaches discarded at the slightest stumble would have befallen Musa had it not been for ROHR.
That's the difference between minds from developed Nations and Nigeria; You encourage people to be their best . Had Rohr listened to Mugus on CE Musa would have been history long ago. Same goes for a lot of Nigerians written off at home who leave Nigeria and make it abroad.

Nsofor had potential to be the deadliest striker ever to come out of Africa was Rohr around. Instead we took Uchebo to Brazil ahead of Nsofor; wahoooo!!!! Keshi I would never forgive him for that
Not entirely accurate. Keshi, Eguavoen and Oliseh did not discard Musa. In fact the comments then were..what did these coaches see in Musa
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john12 wrote:That’s only to you. Musa has always been a WORLD CLASS player that scores when utilized correctly. Musa is SE greatest striker in my Generation
Here we go again. Musa has improved he hasn't always been at the level he is currently. Lets turn a blind eye to his previous inadequacies and pretend he has always been world class. Omo, it doesn't hurt to give "constructive criticism" rather than ignore short comings. There is always room for improvement.
The criticism wasn't constructive, it was downright ignorant and disrespectful.
How many times have you read (maybe even written yourself) that Musa should "never smell the SE again", or that he has "a low IQ" or that he is a "headless chicken", not to mention the countless ethnic slurs that came regularly from our resident CE bigots?
I can't think of any one SE player in the last decade that has had to endure the level of abuse Musa has had to deal with on a regular basis.
Yet he still plays for his country with passion and a smile.
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vancity eagle wrote:in truth he was a poor player for a long time, but dude has really improved his game.

He is much better at taking on players, but what I like most is that his decision making and passing has really improved. Couple that with his deadly pace, his goal scoring threat, and his defending.

At one point late in the 2nd half he was tracking back all the way into our box to make a tackle, and this playing as a CENTRE FORWARD.

he is a deserved starter for SE. The guy played very well again today and scored another legit goal that was called off. His goal per game ratio of late is very very good.

Glad to see his game come along way. Very key player for us, complete baller right now.
This is very mature of you to acknowledge this. KPOM
In the past though, you have been one of those that showed total disrespect and ignorance in your posts on Musa.
Maybe, like Musa, you have matured and now have a better handle on your emotions and hence your decision-making. :idea:
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Eaglezbeak wrote:
jette1 wrote:But the same fate that happened to likes of NSOFOR, okoronwko, and a host of others that SE Nigerian born head coaches discarded at the slightest stumble would have befallen Musa had it not been for ROHR.
That's the difference between minds from developed Nations and Nigeria;You encourage people to be their best .

Nsofor had potential to be the deadliest striker ever to come out of Africa was Rohr around. Instead we took Uchebo to Brazil ahead of Nsofor; wahoooo!!!! Keshi I would never forgive him for that
You're right,a coach is supposed to get the best out a player and trust is a major part of that.
These two low-esteemed self-haters again... :lol:
Same Musa that debuted and played unbrokenly in the SE (under 3 different “Nigeria-born” coaches). SMH

Funny how the same Musa had the exact same WC performance at the 2014 WC under “a mind from Nigeria” (2 goals) as he had under a “mind from developed nations (sic)” that is now considered by some mentally-subjugated stool samplers as apparently worthy of the Ballon D’or. Meanwhile, where is Simy Nwankwo? Hopefully he has not been “discarded at the slightest stumble”. Where is Brown Ideye, who STARTED in our first WCQ under Herr “mind from develop nations”? Where’s Musa Muhammed, yet another STARTER in the first competitive game (ANCQ vs Tanzania) under “mind from developed nations”? Where’s Anderson Esiti, who played in the first 2018 WCQs under “mind from developed nations”? Where’s Anthony Nwakaeme who STARTED in the last WCQ under the esteemed “mind from developed nations” I’d be darned, but it would appear that these STARTERS and players have been “discarded at the slightest stumble”. SMDH @ sheer idolatry ignorance.
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Eaglezbeak wrote:You're right,a coach is supposed to get the best out a player and trust is a major part of that.
So why were you not advocating that the coach “get the best out” of Echiéjilé? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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john12 wrote:That’s only to you. Musa has always been a WORLD CLASS player that scores when utilized correctly. Musa is SE greatest striker in my Generation
Shutup you little clown :D ......................anyway, I have always liked Musa, I like forwards with pace and Musa got tons of that.
Musa can always pull a goal out of nothing and that's what a skillful pacey player will always bring to the table.

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Gotti wrote:
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jette1 wrote:But the same fate that happened to likes of NSOFOR, okoronwko, and a host of others that SE Nigerian born head coaches discarded at the slightest stumble would have befallen Musa had it not been for ROHR.
That's the difference between minds from developed Nations and Nigeria;You encourage people to be their best .

Nsofor had potential to be the deadliest striker ever to come out of Africa was Rohr around. Instead we took Uchebo to Brazil ahead of Nsofor; wahoooo!!!! Keshi I would never forgive him for that
You're right,a coach is supposed to get the best out a player and trust is a major part of that.
These two low-esteemed self-haters again... :lol:
Same Musa that debuted and played unbrokenly in the SE (under 3 different “Nigeria-born” coaches). SMH

Funny how the same Musa had the exact same WC performance at the 2014 WC under “a mind from Nigeria” (2 goals) as he had under a “mind from developed nations (sic)” that is now considered by some mentally-subjugated stool samplers as apparently worthy of the Ballon D’or. Meanwhile, where is Simy Nwankwo? Hopefully he has not been “discarded at the slightest stumble”. Where is Brown Ideye, who STARTED in our first WCQ under Herr “mind from develop nations”? Where’s Musa Muhammed, yet another STARTER in the first competitive game (ANCQ vs Tanzania) under “mind from developed nations”? Where’s Anderson Esiti, who played in the first 2018 WCQs under “mind from developed nations”? Where’s Anthony Nwakaeme who STARTED in the last WCQ under the esteemed “mind from developed nations” I’d be darned, but it would appear that these STARTERS and players have been “discarded at the slightest stumble”. SMDH @ sheer idolatry ignorance.
I don’t need to agree even if I understand it’s got nothing to do with my self esteem no coach will ever pick your favourite 11 and even if he does you may not get the result you want but after qualifying to 1 Afcon since 2010 I have to say it’s not that bad!
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Gotti wrote:
Eaglezbeak wrote:
jette1 wrote:But the same fate that happened to likes of NSOFOR, okoronwko, and a host of others that SE Nigerian born head coaches discarded at the slightest stumble would have befallen Musa had it not been for ROHR.
That's the difference between minds from developed Nations and Nigeria;You encourage people to be their best .

Nsofor had potential to be the deadliest striker ever to come out of Africa was Rohr around. Instead we took Uchebo to Brazil ahead of Nsofor; wahoooo!!!! Keshi I would never forgive him for that
You're right,a coach is supposed to get the best out a player and trust is a major part of that.
These two low-esteemed self-haters again... :lol:
Same Musa that debuted and played unbrokenly in the SE (under 3 different “Nigeria-born” coaches). SMH

Funny how the same Musa had the exact same WC performance at the 2014 WC under “a mind from Nigeria” (2 goals) as he had under a “mind from developed nations (sic)” that is now considered by some mentally-subjugated stool samplers as apparently worthy of the Ballon D’or. Meanwhile, where is Simy Nwankwo? Hopefully he has not been “discarded at the slightest stumble”. Where is Brown Ideye, who STARTED in our first WCQ under Herr “mind from develop nations”? Where’s Musa Muhammed, yet another STARTER in the first competitive game (ANCQ vs Tanzania) under “mind from developed nations”? Where’s Anderson Esiti, who played in the first 2018 WCQs under “mind from developed nations”? Where’s Anthony Nwakaeme who STARTED in the last WCQ under the esteemed “mind from developed nations” I’d be darned, but it would appear that these STARTERS and players have been “discarded at the slightest stumble”. SMDH @ sheer idolatry ignorance.
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