Bayern 3 Fortuna 3/Mainz 1 Dortmund 2 FT

[Scipio Africanus]

against Fortuna

3-2 to Bayern, 83rd min. Man I hope Fortuna score!

Meanwhile Dortmund up 2-1 against Mainz. Mainz looking VERY dangerous and good for a goal at any time.

[Scipio Africanus]

Squeaky bum time for Dortmund. 5 mins injury time.

[Scipio Africanus]

And Bayern could not hang on! 3-3!!!!! Fortunaaaa!!!!

[Scipio Africanus]

FT. If Mainz do not score in injury time, Dortmund will extend their lead against Bayern to 9 points!

[Scipio Africanus]

FT in the Dortmund game. Dortmund win 2-1!

9 point lead over Bayern!

[Siddonlook11]

And Bayern could not hang on! 3-3!!!!! Fortunaaaa!!!!

On an interesting note a young belgian of congolese descent on loan from watford scored a hattrick against Bayern today - his name na Lukebakio and he is 21.

[zee]

And Bayern could not hang on! 3-3!!!!! Fortunaaaa!!!!

VAR is killing Bayern..............before VAR, all their offside goals were allowed and good goals from opponents were not given. If their opponents complain, a coupled of their players get red carded.

Foolish yawa cheating team.

[Scipio Africanus]

And Bayern could not hang on! 3-3!!!!! Fortunaaaa!!!!

On an interesting note a young belgian of congolese descent on loan from watford scored a hattrick against Bayern today - his name na Lukebakio and he is 21.

Looks like a very promising chap.

[bk-one]

And Bayern could not hang on! 3-3!!!!! Fortunaaaa!!!!

VAR is killing Bayern..............before VAR, all their offside goals were allowed and good goals from opponents were not given. If their opponents complain, a coupled of their players get red carded.

Foolish yawa cheating team.

I think might be onto something there.....saw the same thing with Real Madrid today....Referee actually disallowed Eibar's opening goal only for VAR to say otherwise. It wasnt the first time where they did that to Madrid. Its not a coincidence that since the introduction of VAR some big teams are struggling

[Scipio Africanus]

And Bayern could not hang on! 3-3!!!!! Fortunaaaa!!!!

VAR is killing Bayern..............before VAR, all their offside goals were allowed and good goals from opponents were not given. If their opponents complain, a coupled of their players get red carded.

Foolish yawa cheating team.

They always have their plan B. Buy all the good players from everyone else. As long as they do not come for Paco and Reus with their stinking money, all is good.

[Cristao II]

Niko Kovac is a goner..

[txj]

Some quality football at the Wanda Metropolitano

[bk-one]

Some quality football at the Wanda Metropolitano

And what did you say about Dembele again?

Like I have been telling you the problem is the coach.

[txj]

Some quality football at the Wanda Metropolitano

And what did you say about Dembele again?

Like I have been telling you the problem is the coach.

He is a poor professional, his goal notwithstanding...

Everybody in football knows it...

[bk-one]

Some quality football at the Wanda Metropolitano

And what did you say about Dembele again?

Like I have been telling you the problem is the coach.

He is a poor professional, his goal notwithstanding...

Everybody in football knows it...

Everybody you mean...you, agenda driven media and the useless Valverde

Its weird that.....the same poor professional seems to be scoring very important goals for the manager who is consistently benching him even when he is playing well.

He is a young player....he will make mistakes and just like most gifted young players....you have to play him in order to iron out his flaws....not bench him every time he is making small mistakes.

The same poor professional is scoring important goals whilst the likes of Sergi Roberto are consistently playing crap but somehow the same manager keeps on rewarding them for consistently playing crap.

[txj]

Some quality football at the Wanda Metropolitano

And what did you say about Dembele again?

Like I have been telling you the problem is the coach.

He is a poor professional, his goal notwithstanding...

Everybody in football knows it...

Everybody you mean...you, agenda driven media and the useless Valverde

Its weird that.....the same poor professional seems to be scoring very important goals for the manager who is consistently benching him even when he is playing well.

He is a young player....he will make mistakes and just like most gifted young players....you have to play him in order to iron out his flaws....not bench him every time he is making small mistakes.

The same poor professional is scoring important goals whilst the likes of Sergi Roberto are consistently playing crap but somehow the same manager keeps on rewarding them for consistently playing crap.

He's been a poor professional going back to his Dortmund days.

His French international manager complains about it...

Even his agent admits he needs to improve his professionalism!

When you spend more than 100m on a player, you cannot afford such sloppiness. His goals return and overall performance does not begin to justify the investment.


https://www.mundodeportivo.com/futbol/f ... lidad.html

https://www.mundodeportivo.com/futbol/f ... barca.html



https://www.sport-english.com/en/news/b ... ge-7143768

[Waffiman]

And Bayern could not hang on! 3-3!!!!! Fortunaaaa!!!!

VAR is killing Bayern..............before VAR, all their offside goals were allowed and good goals from opponents were not given. If their opponents complain, a coupled of their players get red carded.

Foolish yawa cheating team.

You have a massive point.

Please update the score.

[Waffiman]

Some quality football at the Wanda Metropolitano

And what did you say about Dembele again?

Like I have been telling you the problem is the coach.

He is a poor professional, his goal notwithstanding...

Everybody in football knows it...

Everybody you mean...you, agenda driven media and the useless Valverde

Its weird that.....the same poor professional seems to be scoring very important goals for the manager who is consistently benching him even when he is playing well.

He is a young player....he will make mistakes and just like most gifted young players....you have to play him in order to iron out his flaws....not bench him every time he is making small mistakes.

The same poor professional is scoring important goals whilst the likes of Sergi Roberto are consistently playing crap but somehow the same manager keeps on rewarding them for consistently playing crap.

He's been a poor professional going back to his Dortmund days.

His French international manager complains about it...

Even his agent admits he needs to improve his professionalism!

When you spend more than 100m on a player, you cannot afford such sloppiness. His goals return and overall performance does not begin to justify the investment.


https://www.mundodeportivo.com/futbol/f ... lidad.html

https://www.mundodeportivo.com/futbol/f ... barca.html



https://www.sport-english.com/en/news/b ... ge-7143768

I see your links are from newspapers thatare Barca's mouthpieces. I am not saying Dembele is a saint but I see this differently. The kid has been pushed and treated poorly, with his back against the wall, he has lasted out at times.

Deschamp is not criticising the player, he has no problem with the player. He makes it clear he only knows what the press say, referring to one incident he refused to turn up for training because of a stomach bug. Deschamp also days he turns up late for training but he is not the only one, advising him to change certain aspects of his character. That's fair enough and good advice. It is not criticism questioning his professionalism. It is also nowhere as bad as the Barca newspapers.

Barca wants everyone to believe the player they made all those promises to in convincing him to sign for them but are now failing by not playing him is a poor pro. Then you have Barca's orchestrated leaks and lies about his professionalism to their fans via the press to justify their failing of the player. Dembele cannot win the PR war, but I try to look at both sides. I do not believe everything I read in the press, I also read what his side say about Barca, it is not complimentary.

A lot has been written and said about Dembele but the worst has to be the journalist, who said Barca are playing classical music and Dembele is playing hip hop. What pretentious racist rubbish that was. But it is also the sort of crap he has to put up with. Dembele will not suffer fools gladly and Barca do not like a kid who stands up for himself.

The player gets on the pitch and he delivers, yet the Coach refuses to give him a start. Dembele has put up with so much rubbish because he refuses to be treated like a 2nd class citizen. If Dembele is angry and lashing out, I cannot fault the player only. I fault the club more because they have failed the player and mismanaged the whole issue.

[bk-one]

Some quality football at the Wanda Metropolitano

And what did you say about Dembele again?

Like I have been telling you the problem is the coach.

He is a poor professional, his goal notwithstanding...

Everybody in football knows it...

Everybody you mean...you, agenda driven media and the useless Valverde

Its weird that.....the same poor professional seems to be scoring very important goals for the manager who is consistently benching him even when he is playing well.

He is a young player....he will make mistakes and just like most gifted young players....you have to play him in order to iron out his flaws....not bench him every time he is making small mistakes.

The same poor professional is scoring important goals whilst the likes of Sergi Roberto are consistently playing crap but somehow the same manager keeps on rewarding them for consistently playing crap.

He's been a poor professional going back to his Dortmund days.

His French international manager complains about it...

Even his agent admits he needs to improve his professionalism!

When you spend more than 100m on a player, you cannot afford such sloppiness. His goals return and overall performance does not begin to justify the investment.


https://www.mundodeportivo.com/futbol/f ... lidad.html

https://www.mundodeportivo.com/futbol/f ... barca.html



https://www.sport-english.com/en/news/b ... ge-7143768

I see your links are from newspapers thatare Barca's mouthpieces. I am not saying Dembele is a saint but I see this differently. The kid has been pushed and treated poorly, with his back against the wall, he has lasted out at times.

Deschamp is not criticising the player, he has no problem with the player. He makes it clear he only knows what the press say, referring to one incident he refused to turn up for training because of a stomach bug. Deschamp also days he turns up late for training but he is not the only one, advising him to change certain aspects of his character. That's fair enough and good advice. It is not criticism questioning his professionalism. It is also nowhere as bad as the Barca newspapers.

Barca wants everyone to believe the player they made all those promises to in convincing him to sign for them but are now failing by not playing him is a poor pro. Then you have Barca's orchestrated leaks and lies about his professionalism to their fans via the press to justify their failing of the player. Dembele cannot win the PR war, but I try to look at both sides. I do not believe everything I read in the press, I also read what his side say about Barca, it is not complimentary.

A lot has been written and said about Dembele but the worst has to be the journalist, who said Barca are playing classical music and Dembele is playing hip hop. What pretentious racist rubbish that was. But it is also the sort of crap he has to put up with. Dembele will not suffer fools gladly and Barca do not like a kid who stands up for himself.

The player gets on the pitch and he delivers, yet the Coach refuses to give him a start. Dembele has put up with so much rubbish because he refuses to be treated like a 2nd class citizen. If Dembele is angry and lashing out, I cannot fault the player only. I fault the club more because they have failed the player and mismanaged the whole issue.

You are wasting time with him....He has failed to explain why Dembele is a poor professional......Dembele is doing exactly the same things young professional players are doing(gaming/hip-hop, e.t.c). Dembele is a devout muslim who doesnt drink, party nor smoke. I gave him an example of Malcom who is facing same on-field issues like Dembele. The issue is the coach who doesnt know how to use both of them but instead of them accepting that, they will rather drag Dembele's(later on its going to be Malcom) name on the mud.

The same poor professional rescued seven points for the club this season.

https://www.sport-english.com/en/news/b ... ds-6365590

[Waffiman]

Some quality football at the Wanda Metropolitano

And what did you say about Dembele again?

Like I have been telling you the problem is the coach.

He is a poor professional, his goal notwithstanding...

Everybody in football knows it...

Everybody you mean...you, agenda driven media and the useless Valverde

Its weird that.....the same poor professional seems to be scoring very important goals for the manager who is consistently benching him even when he is playing well.

He is a young player....he will make mistakes and just like most gifted young players....you have to play him in order to iron out his flaws....not bench him every time he is making small mistakes.

The same poor professional is scoring important goals whilst the likes of Sergi Roberto are consistently playing crap but somehow the same manager keeps on rewarding them for consistently playing crap.

He's been a poor professional going back to his Dortmund days.

His French international manager complains about it...

Even his agent admits he needs to improve his professionalism!

When you spend more than 100m on a player, you cannot afford such sloppiness. His goals return and overall performance does not begin to justify the investment.


https://www.mundodeportivo.com/futbol/f ... lidad.html

https://www.mundodeportivo.com/futbol/f ... barca.html



https://www.sport-english.com/en/news/b ... ge-7143768

I see your links are from newspapers thatare Barca's mouthpieces. I am not saying Dembele is a saint but I see this differently. The kid has been pushed and treated poorly, with his back against the wall, he has lasted out at times.

Deschamp is not criticising the player, he has no problem with the player. He makes it clear he only knows what the press say, referring to one incident he refused to turn up for training because of a stomach bug. Deschamp also days he turns up late for training but he is not the only one, advising him to change certain aspects of his character. That's fair enough and good advice. It is not criticism questioning his professionalism. It is also nowhere as bad as the Barca newspapers.

Barca wants everyone to believe the player they made all those promises to in convincing him to sign for them but are now failing by not playing him is a poor pro. Then you have Barca's orchestrated leaks and lies about his professionalism to their fans via the press to justify their failing of the player. Dembele cannot win the PR war, but I try to look at both sides. I do not believe everything I read in the press, I also read what his side say about Barca, it is not complimentary.

A lot has been written and said about Dembele but the worst has to be the journalist, who said Barca are playing classical music and Dembele is playing hip hop. What pretentious racist rubbish that was. But it is also the sort of crap he has to put up with. Dembele will not suffer fools gladly and Barca do not like a kid who stands up for himself.

The player gets on the pitch and he delivers, yet the Coach refuses to give him a start. Dembele has put up with so much rubbish because he refuses to be treated like a 2nd class citizen. If Dembele is angry and lashing out, I cannot fault the player only. I fault the club more because they have failed the player and mismanaged the whole issue.

You are wasting time with him....He has failed to explain why Dembele is a poor professional......Dembele is doing exactly the same things young professional players are doing(gaming/hip-hop, e.t.c). Dembele is a devout muslim who doesnt drink, party nor smoke. I gave him an example of Malcom who is facing same on-field issues like Dembele. The issue is the coach who doesnt know how to use both of them but instead of them accepting that, they will rather drag Dembele's(later on its going to be Malcom) name on the mud.

The same poor professional rescued seven points for the club this season.

https://www.sport-english.com/en/news/b ... ds-6365590

I was going to come on to this. Clubs like Barca have serious issues. Where a club like Arsenal is respectful and sensitive to their players needs, Barca are arrogant expecting the player to bow to their needs. At Arsenal, they have a mosque commission by the Inman of the local mosque for Arsenal Muslim prayers at the training ground and the stadium. Their food is strictly halal and you know what, the majority of the players prefer it.

For example, I am a Christian but I only eat halal meat.

[txj]

I was going to come on to this. Clubs like Barca have serious issues. Where a club like Arsenal is respectful and sensitive to their players needs, Barca are arrogant expecting the player to bow to their needs. At Arsenal, they have a mosque commission by the Inman of the local mosque for Arsenal Muslim prayers at the training ground and the stadium. Their food is strictly halal and you know what, the majority of the players prefer it.

For example, I am a Christian but I only eat halal meat.

You forgot the part where Barca offered a chef to help him with his diet.

You claim Deschamps is not complaining but that is actually not true.

The dieting is one thing, but what about the unprofessionalism? Even his agent admits he needs to improve!

Back in Germany Jurgen Klopp has had to file a case against him for thrashing his apartment b/4 he left for Spain. Is Klopp also part of Barca press?

When a team signs a player for $125m, they should expect him to bow to their wishes, not the other way round like kitty cat clubs like Arsenal!

[Waffiman]

I was going to come on to this. Clubs like Barca have serious issues. Where a club like Arsenal is respectful and sensitive to their players needs, Barca are arrogant expecting the player to bow to their needs. At Arsenal, they have a mosque commission by the Inman of the local mosque for Arsenal Muslim prayers at the training ground and the stadium. Their food is strictly halal and you know what, the majority of the players prefer it.

For example, I am a Christian but I only eat halal meat.

You forgot the part where Barca offered a chef to help him with his diet.

You claim Deschamps is not complaining but that is actually not true.

The dieting is one thing, but what about the unprofessionalism? Even his agent admits he needs to improve!

Back in Germany Jurgen Klopp has had to file a case against him for thrashing his apartment b/4 he left for Spain. Is Klopp also part of Barca press?

When a team signs a player for $125m, they should expect him to bow to their wishes, not the other way round like kitty cat clubs like Arsenal!

You offer a chef after the player refused to eat your food. How can it be that any club that is respectful and sensitive to their player's needs should it come to that? That was shameful. Why is it that the player had to make a stand before they brought in this so called chef?

Before you sign the player, you do your homework and ensure you take care of the player's religious needs inter alia. A club like Barca don't need to be told this but Dembele is Muslim and Black, they did not care because they expect him to fit into their ways.

txj, unless I am getting my dates wrong, Klopp was at Liverpool when Dembele was leaving for Spain.

I need to attend to a matter urgently, I will be back to respond to the other points.

[txj]

I was going to come on to this. Clubs like Barca have serious issues. Where a club like Arsenal is respectful and sensitive to their players needs, Barca are arrogant expecting the player to bow to their needs. At Arsenal, they have a mosque commission by the Inman of the local mosque for Arsenal Muslim prayers at the training ground and the stadium. Their food is strictly halal and you know what, the majority of the players prefer it.

For example, I am a Christian but I only eat halal meat.

You forgot the part where Barca offered a chef to help him with his diet.

You claim Deschamps is not complaining but that is actually not true.

The dieting is one thing, but what about the unprofessionalism? Even his agent admits he needs to improve!

Back in Germany Jurgen Klopp has had to file a case against him for thrashing his apartment b/4 he left for Spain. Is Klopp also part of Barca press?

When a team signs a player for $125m, they should expect him to bow to their wishes, not the other way round like kitty cat clubs like Arsenal!

You offer a chef after the player refused to eat your food. How can it be that any club that is respectful and sensitive to their player's needs should it come to that? That was shameful. Why is it that the player had to make a stand before they brought in this so called chef?

Before you sign the player, you do your homework and ensure you take care of the player's religious needs inter alia. A club like Barca don't need to be told this but Dembele is Muslim and Black, they did not care because they expect him to fit into their ways.

txj, unless I am getting my dates wrong, Klopp was at Liverpool when Dembele was leaving for Spain.

I need to attend to a matter urgently, I will be back to respond to the other points.

Stop making stuff up bro! They've had muslim players before. Remember Seydou Keita?

The issue of dieting came up for a reason- it came up for his poor dieting habits not his choice of halal food...

On Klopp you did not get your dates wrong; you got your facts wrong! He lived in Klopp's apartment in Dortmund. Remember Dortmund? The club he coached for years?

This is not about respect for a player. It's about the lack of professionalism of the player.

I can understand if your argument is that it serves Barca right, given how they got the player in the first place. But don't bring race or religion into it!