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Not now! The boy will be out of contract next yr and is free to sign in January, though he has yet to sign the new offer Villarreal has tabled.

Abeg, if any of our resident agents Know the boy mek dem warn am o!!! The grass is not greener on the other side, he plays in the best league in the world and he’s getting plenty of action and succeeding.

DO NOT, I REPEAT... DO NOT BE FOOLED by the so called big clubs unless you want to end up in the championship playing police ball or on loan in Belgium. There’re only about 5 clubs in the EPL better than Villarreal and non will help him now. Stay in Spain, re-up with Villarreal and improve.

See his mates Nacho and Nwakali, even Issac success is just now starting to show promise. I don tok my own o. :thumb:

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Not now! The boy will be out of contract next yr and is free to sign in January, though he has yet to sign the new offer Villarreal has tabled.

Abeg, if any of our resident agents Know the boy mek dem warn am o!!! The grass is not greener on the other side, he plays in the best league in the world and he’s getting plenty of action and succeeding.

DO NOT, I REPEAT... DO NOT BE FOOLED by the so called big clubs unless you want to end up in the championship playing police ball or on loan in Belgium. There’re only about 5 clubs in the EPL better than Villarreal and non will help him now. Stay in Spain, re-up with Villarreal and improve.

See his mates Nacho and Nwakali, even Issac success is just now starting to show promise. I don tok my own o. :thumb:


After waiting like 3 years for his big break and seeing massive opportunity like a move to Arsenal fail coupled with limited active earning lifespan (like 3-4 contracts) you think he'll have this in mind? The most important thing now is to get paid - whoever would pay is preferred, if they want to waste their money and not play him is their problem not Chukwueze's. he can go on loan to pay if not paid.

Hope he gets a massive contract.


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my thoughts exactly, just wondering however if Villareal is safe from relegation, but for the interests of his development he should stay put.

Look what happened to Etebo once he left La Liga.


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my thoughts exactly, just wondering however if Villareal is safe from relegation, but for the interests of his development he should stay put.

Look what happened to Etebo once he left La Liga.


Is it leaving La Liga or more about the jambody team he went to?

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my thoughts exactly, just wondering however if Villareal is safe from relegation, but for the interests of his development he should stay put.

Look what happened to Etebo once he left La Liga.

Etebo was ill advised,he joined just relegated Stoke City for reasons known to him and his agents.

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vancity eagle wrote:
my thoughts exactly, just wondering however if Villareal is safe from relegation, but for the interests of his development he should stay put.

Look what happened to Etebo once he left La Liga.


Is it leaving La Liga or more about the jambody team he went to?

Well one can't happen without the other. If he didn't leave La Liga he wouldn't have joined a jambody team. :)

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Etebo's story is a sad one. Since the World Cup, he's performed below par. It's attributable to the level of football and the quality of the club he joined. I just wish a bigger and better club could snap him up and give him a new boost.

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vancity eagle wrote:
my thoughts exactly, just wondering however if Villareal is safe from relegation, but for the interests of his development he should stay put.

Look what happened to Etebo once he left La Liga.

Etebo's problem was moving to the wrong club not moving per se.

Samuel should not sign until Villareal's position in La Liga is clear. Some players (usually older & more established) have a relegation escape clause in their contracts but I don't know whether that is even allowed in Spain.

If VIllareal get relegated, Samuel would be better advised to move to another La Liga club and work.
Unless better opportunities arise in Italy or Bundesliga teams.

Samuel Chukwueze, should avoid the EPL and Scottish leagues at all cost! Let them come for him when he is 25 years old and pay through the nose for his services.

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He should stay put for another 2 or 3 years.

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Agreed. Villareal is a good club where he can continue to develop. Players like Mbappe, Pulisic, and even Griezzman have been wise not to rush moving to bigger clubs.

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He should stay put for another 2 or 3 years.


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theYemster wrote:
maceo4 wrote:
vancity eagle wrote:
my thoughts exactly, just wondering however if Villareal is safe from relegation, but for the interests of his development he should stay put.

Look what happened to Etebo once he left La Liga.


Is it leaving La Liga or more about the jambody team he went to?

Well one can't happen without the other. If he didn't leave La Liga he wouldn't have joined a jambody team. :)


Yeyemster comot for road :taunt: Kaba don expound on my point, nothing wrong with leaving but make sure you go to a team that suits your style of play. Kele and Etebo are clear examples of not doing this properly and its affecting their progress.

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It is counter productive for him to not consider offers from big clubs. He just needs to be smart about it. He should listen to what they’re offering and pay close attention to what they’re willing to do to secure his services. How much they’re willing to spend on his transfer is a strong measure of his worth to them. If, for example, they’re willing to pay a transfer fee of $25 m and up, that would be a good indication of their seriousness but he shouldn’t just jump at the first offer :!:


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TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:
It is counter productive for him to not consider offers from big clubs. He just needs to be smart about it. He should listen to what they’re offering and pay close attention to what they’re willing to do to secure his services. How much they’re willing to spend on his transfer is a strong measure of his worth to them. If, for example, they’re willing to pay a transfer fee of $25 m and up, that would be a good indication of their seriousness but he shouldn’t just jump at the first offer :!:


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As long as the big club is in Spain then its fine, any attempt to go to England will likely fail.

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What If Mourinho wants to buy him?
Should he go or stay @ Villareal?

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TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:
It is counter productive for him to not consider offers from big clubs. He just needs to be smart about it. He should listen to what they’re offering and pay close attention to what they’re willing to do to secure his services. How much they’re willing to spend on his transfer is a strong measure of his worth to them. If, for example, they’re willing to pay a transfer fee of $25 m and up, that would be a good indication of their seriousness but he shouldn’t just jump at the first offer :!:


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Why is everything about money with you guys?
I understand the need to cash in because it is a short career and a player can have a career ending injury any day.

But Samuel is 19 years old! Too young to make major decisions based primarily on money.
His priority should be finding a home where his game can grow. The money will come later and will be a lot more than he would get by following the money now. Of course, if he is lucky to get that rare combo of high pay and ideal environment he should go for it but that decision should value the development environment higher than the compensation. That is not to say that he should settle for peanuts.


Another way to look at it is, if Jose Mourinho came calling and dangled a juicy contract, should Samuel take it?
No! Because, Mourinho doesn't last long at any club and you never know what the new coach will do. Jose also has a poor reputation of handling youngsters. Then there is the fierce competition for playing time. Good agents would advise against such a move.

On the other hand, if Dortmund came calling, that would be a better move based on their history of developing young players.

Etebo made a dumb move probably because he or more likely his agents wanted to cash in.

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What If Mourinho wants to buy him?
Should he go or stay @ Villareal?

It depends. If Villareal get relegated and no other offers come up, then he should bite the bullet and go.
Otherwise, no for the reasons I mentioned in my reply to TonyTheTigerKiller above. :D

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Kabalega wrote:
TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:
It is counter productive for him to not consider offers from big clubs. He just needs to be smart about it. He should listen to what they’re offering and pay close attention to what they’re willing to do to secure his services. How much they’re willing to spend on his transfer is a strong measure of his worth to them. If, for example, they’re willing to pay a transfer fee of $25 m and up, that would be a good indication of their seriousness but he shouldn’t just jump at the first offer :!:


Cheers.

Why is everything about money with you guys?
I understand the need to cash in because it is a short career and a player can have a career ending injury any day.

But Samuel is 19 years old! Too young to make major decisions based primarily on money.
His priority should be finding a home where his game can grow. The money will come later and will be a lot more than he would get by following the money now. Of course, if he is lucky to get that rare combo of high pay and ideal environment he should go for it but that decision should value the development environment higher than the compensation. That is not to say that he should settle for peanuts.


Another way to look at it is, if Jose Mourinho came calling and dangled a juicy contract, should Samuel take it?
No! Because, Mourinho doesn't last long at any club and you never know what the new coach will do. Jose also has a poor reputation of handling youngsters. Then there is the fierce competition for playing time. Good agents would advise against such a move.

On the other hand, if Dortmund came calling, that would be a better move based on their history of developing young players.

Etebo made a dumb move probably because he or more likely his agents wanted to cash in.


:lol: i would love to borrow your crystal ball for the lottery drawing tomorrow.

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metalalloy wrote:
Kabalega wrote:
TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:
It is counter productive for him to not consider offers from big clubs. He just needs to be smart about it. He should listen to what they’re offering and pay close attention to what they’re willing to do to secure his services. How much they’re willing to spend on his transfer is a strong measure of his worth to them. If, for example, they’re willing to pay a transfer fee of $25 m and up, that would be a good indication of their seriousness but he shouldn’t just jump at the first offer :!:


Cheers.

Why is everything about money with you guys?
I understand the need to cash in because it is a short career and a player can have a career ending injury any day.

But Samuel is 19 years old! Too young to make major decisions based primarily on money.
His priority should be finding a home where his game can grow. The money will come later and will be a lot more than he would get by following the money now. Of course, if he is lucky to get that rare combo of high pay and ideal environment he should go for it but that decision should value the development environment higher than the compensation. That is not to say that he should settle for peanuts.


Another way to look at it is, if Jose Mourinho came calling and dangled a juicy contract, should Samuel take it?
No! Because, Mourinho doesn't last long at any club and you never know what the new coach will do. Jose also has a poor reputation of handling youngsters. Then there is the fierce competition for playing time. Good agents would advise against such a move.

On the other hand, if Dortmund came calling, that would be a better move based on their history of developing young players.

Etebo made a dumb move probably because he or more likely his agents wanted to cash in.


:lol: i would love to borrow your crystal ball for the lottery drawing tomorrow.

Leave him, a carreer that short, you are one tackle away from poverty. after that nothing agin, you have no qualification and cannot do anything else in most cases.

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So because he is having a good season he should ignore the opportunity to make the most of his career? Una sef. If the opportunity comes he should analyse it well and it is fits he should grab it. As someone said, you are one injury or loss of form in one season away from missing out altogether.
Unless his remunerations now is good enough and not some of those kwe kwe i am desperate to play in Europe type contract that turns them to slaves even in a big club.

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A 19 year old soccer player should make a career move based on the right environment first and money second. But they should not settle for peanuts.

If they prioritize money instead of development, they run a high risk of stunting their development and missing out on big money later in their career. This is the advice I'd give to any young person starting a new career especially if they do not have dependents and other major responsibilities.

Look at how many Naija U17, didn't pan out later in life. Yeah I know there are other reasons too but look at their career choices.
How many Brazilians left home early for the quick buck and ruined their careers? Adriano, Pato, e.t.c.
On the other hand, Neymar resisted the temptation until the time was right.

Freddy Adu was offered $1M to join AC Milan academy (during their hey days) where he would draw a "small" salary. He refused the offer and went to DC United to play for a coach who didn't want to develop his game. It all went downhill from there.

As for the fear of injury as a motivator to go for the juicy contract now instead of developing a career, that is no way to live your life. You drive to work everyday and run the risk of some other driver hitting you and disabling you for the rest of your life. But you still drive to work anyway.

Samuel Chukwueze should prioritize career growth over a juicy contract but not settle for peanuts.

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Kabalega wrote:
TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:
It is counter productive for him to not consider offers from big clubs. He just needs to be smart about it. He should listen to what they’re offering and pay close attention to what they’re willing to do to secure his services. How much they’re willing to spend on his transfer is a strong measure of his worth to them. If, for example, they’re willing to pay a transfer fee of $25 m and up, that would be a good indication of their seriousness but he shouldn’t just jump at the first offer :!:


Cheers.

Why is everything about money with you guys?
I understand the need to cash in because it is a short career and a player can have a career ending injury any day.

But Samuel is 19 years old! Too young to make major decisions based primarily on money.
His priority should be finding a home where his game can grow. The money will come later and will be a lot more than he would get by following the money now. Of course, if he is lucky to get that rare combo of high pay and ideal environment he should go for it but that decision should value the development environment higher than the compensation. That is not to say that he should settle for peanuts.


Another way to look at it is, if Jose Mourinho came calling and dangled a juicy contract, should Samuel take it?
No! Because, Mourinho doesn't last long at any club and you never know what the new coach will do. Jose also has a poor reputation of handling youngsters. Then there is the fierce competition for playing time. Good agents would advise against such a move.

On the other hand, if Dortmund came calling, that would be a better move based on their history of developing young players.

Etebo made a dumb move probably because he or more likely his agents wanted to cash in.


It appears you didn’t take time to understand the issue otherwise you would realize that money has little to do with my perspective except for the fatalistic dependency of a professional footballer’s worth on money because after all, professional football is a big money business; the more valuable you’re perceived to be, the more money you’ll be offered. Consider the following practical example. Suppose you’re a budding prospect like Chukwueze and Manchester city comes calling. Should it matter to you if they’re offering a transfer fee of $10m or $40m? In my estimation, Manchester City caliber players are valued at an average of around $35m, just for argument’s sake. So if their offer is $10m, you can comfortably conclude that they just want you as a practice player or perhaps, they’ll turn around and sell you for a sizeable profit... but what if they’re offering $40m instead :?:

Well you know, it is said that you can lead a horse to the stream but you can’t force it to drink. Hopefully, I have led you to the stream. It is now up to you to use your brain and drink :!: :!: :!:


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