Isaac Success v Everton...

[metalalloy]

Decoure!!1

2-1

[txj]

Super goal. 2-1 Watford

Off a foul on Success...

[metalalloy]

Smh as this Watford... silly pk.

[metalalloy]

Saved!!!!!!

[Polly]

Still, Troy Deeney has three shots on goal in the half. Isaac has none. I made this point in his last match, someone retorted that he was playing against Man City. I don't care what the difficulties are: as a striker, you cannot give excuses about not shooting. Nobody is on the pitch to "comot for road" for you to score.

How does Deeney have three shots on goal when Watford has only 1 shot on target?

http://www.espn.com/soccer/matchstats?gameId=513688

But go on... don't let the truth get in the way of your narrative.

Watford has eight shots on goal so far (to Everton's six).

There is a difference between "Shots" and "Shots on goal." Watford has 1 shot on goal.

They just had their second shot on goal that was saved.

I think you are a little confused. "Shots on goal" is different from "shots on target." I never alluded to shots on target.

[metalalloy]

Ademola Lookman already causing problems on that right wing..

[metalalloy]

Still, Troy Deeney has three shots on goal in the half. Isaac has none. I made this point in his last match, someone retorted that he was playing against Man City. I don't care what the difficulties are: as a striker, you cannot give excuses about not shooting. Nobody is on the pitch to "comot for road" for you to score.

How does Deeney have three shots on goal when Watford has only 1 shot on target?

http://www.espn.com/soccer/matchstats?gameId=513688

But go on... don't let the truth get in the way of your narrative.

Watford has eight shots on goal so far (to Everton's six).

There is a difference between "Shots" and "Shots on goal." Watford has 1 shot on goal.

They just had their second shot on goal that was saved.

I think you are a little confused. "Shots on goal" is different from "shots on target." I never alluded to shots on target.

Whats the difference?

[metalalloy]

Success off and so am i.

[txj]

Success done...good game

[shaq]

Interest level in this match has gone with Success off, except maybe check out Lukman (who is probably not going to play for us)

[Flex Swift]

I am still disappointed Success didn't score .... He is striker and needs to score

[niyi]

hopefully they don't regret taking him off

[metalalloy]

I am still disappointed Success didn't score .... He is striker and needs to score

He does. However, a striker can still be of value even if he doesn't score. He created numerous chances for Watford today when he was fouled repeatedly outside the box. I counted at least 5. He had a decent game today.

[shaq]

I am still disappointed Success didn't score .... He is striker and needs to score

He does. However, a striker can still be of value even if he doesn't score. He created numerous chances for Watford today when he was fouled repeatedly outside the box. I counted at least 5. He had a decent game today.

That's mainly the thing going for him at the moment (and that makes him invaluable to the Watford team)

Hopefully he adds better movement and good strike rate.

[Polly]

Still, Troy Deeney has three shots on goal in the half. Isaac has none. I made this point in his last match, someone retorted that he was playing against Man City. I don't care what the difficulties are: as a striker, you cannot give excuses about not shooting. Nobody is on the pitch to "comot for road" for you to score.

How does Deeney have three shots on goal when Watford has only 1 shot on target?

http://www.espn.com/soccer/matchstats?gameId=513688

But go on... don't let the truth get in the way of your narrative.

Watford has eight shots on goal so far (to Everton's six).

There is a difference between "Shots" and "Shots on goal." Watford has 1 shot on goal.

They just had their second shot on goal that was saved.

I think you are a little confused. "Shots on goal" is different from "shots on target." I never alluded to shots on target.

Whats the difference?

A shot on goal is an attempt by a team to score (shooting, headers, dead balls, etc). It may be saved or blocked, or it may miss to the right or left of the goal, or go over the bar.

A shot on target is a shot on goal that is saved by the goalkeeper or any of his teammates. Shots on target are therefore a subset of shorts on goal. In the ongoing match in the 91st minute, Watford is 14(3): 14 shots on goal, three on target.

[Siddonlook11]

I never thought I would say this but......... Ighalo is a better player then this Success guy.

Curious though .. what is the basis of comparison ? ..not questioning your assertion , just wondering if you could give more context

At no time has Success looked like scoring , he holds onto the ball for to long in midfield. He needs to get into the box more and he needs to score. he also needs to create chances inside the box. Ighalo stayed in the box and played closer the Deeny.

Thanks. I think he and Pereya ( sp) are being played as Wingers/Midfielder combo - hence they are in the midfield more than in the box.

Deeney is the one The coach wants in the box.. this coach is different and plays a different formation from he coach that had Ighalo.

But I agree with you on the fact that he does not drive and go for goal... Walcott na winger on the opposing side and drives towards goal and shoots at goal..

Even Pereya drives and shoots towards goal sef and scores sef.

[bushboy]

I am a little worried for my boy. He does little things well and you can see he is a cerebral player. But this was like his 5th start in a row and he hasn't scored. If in January, a striker is signed, the pressure on him will mount. I just hope he hasn't used up his goodwill. Gracia took a bold step in playing him as much as he has, and the only way to reward that is with goals. He just hasn't done that.

[niyi]

Should have left him on.

[txj]

Somebody needs to monitor the account of that Kebosele guy at Watford...

First he gave away a stupid PK. It got saved.

Then undeterred, he gives away a needless handball just outside his box to gift Everton the equalizer...

[The YeyeMan]

I am a little worried for my boy. He does little things well and you can see he is a cerebral player. But this was like his 5th start in a row and he hasn't scored. If in January, a striker is signed, the pressure on him will mount. I just hope he hasn't used up his goodwill. Gracia took a bold step in playing him as much as he has, and the only way to reward that is with goals. He just hasn't done that.

Deeney should be concerned if they buy a striker.

[Cally]

I thought Success played quite well. He was a threat. They should find a way to get him much closer to the opponent's 18 yard box, maybe he'd be much more dangerous there. Good game.

[marutimon]

Success was great and was a threat. He needs to add goals to his resume though... He is doing everything else right. But to become indispensible he needs goals.

[metalalloy]

Still, Troy Deeney has three shots on goal in the half. Isaac has none. I made this point in his last match, someone retorted that he was playing against Man City. I don't care what the difficulties are: as a striker, you cannot give excuses about not shooting. Nobody is on the pitch to "comot for road" for you to score.

How does Deeney have three shots on goal when Watford has only 1 shot on target?

http://www.espn.com/soccer/matchstats?gameId=513688

But go on... don't let the truth get in the way of your narrative.

Watford has eight shots on goal so far (to Everton's six).

There is a difference between "Shots" and "Shots on goal." Watford has 1 shot on goal.

They just had their second shot on goal that was saved.

I think you are a little confused. "Shots on goal" is different from "shots on target." I never alluded to shots on target.

Whats the difference?

A shot on goal is an attempt by a team to score (shooting, headers, dead balls, etc). It may be saved or blocked, or it may miss to the right or left of the goal, or go over the bar.

A shot on target is a shot on goal that is saved by the goalkeeper or any of his teammates. Shots on target are therefore a subset of shorts on goal. In the ongoing match in the 91st minute, Watford is 14(3): 14 shots on goal, three on target.

Thank you. No offense, but do you have a source for these definitions? The reason i ask is because i have always seen both "shot on goal" and "shot on target" used interchangeably. See example stats from todays game:

shots on target: Premier league website and transfermkt
https://www.premierleague.com/match/38463
https://www.transfermarkt.com/ticker/st ... ve/3050322

shot on goal: soccernet
http://www.espn.com/soccer/matchstats?gameId=513688



as you can see. all of them have the exact same stats:

shots : Everton (12) Watford (15)
(on goal)/target: Everton (5) Watford (3)

From what I've seen, a shot on goal/target is a subset of a "shot". I stand to be corrected, but I've never seen a difference between "shot on target" vs "shot on goal".