Premier League needs cut diving-Mo Sallah

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Premier League needs to cut out this diving now... it's time the FA got strict and ruthless when reviewing incidents
Diving is becoming a big problem once again in the Premier League
Mo Salah has had two soft penalties and Harry Kane was booked for simulation
It's time the FA got strict and their panel must be ruthless when reviewing
By MARK CLATTENBURG FOR THE DAILY MAIL


Diving has once again become a problem in the Premier League.

Mohamed Salah won two soft penalties in three days and Harry Kane was booked for simulation against Wolves.

It is time the FA got strict and their panel must be ruthless when reviewing incidents.
If referee Michael Oliver had decided Salah dived against Arsenal, Salah would have received no punishment other than a caution.

But if the panel decided retrospectively that he dived, he would receive a ban. It’s flawed. The only way to kill diving is if the FA are strong.

People have said Salah did not dive against Newcastle on Boxing Day, so are we saying that contact was enough to knock him down?

What will happen when video technology comes in? Will they see that hand on his left arm and decide it is a spot-kick?

If a player has a chance of scoring, hitting the deck is not in his head. Look back at Sergio Aguero’s goal against QPR to win the title for Manchester City in 2012.

How many chances did he have to go down? He didn’t because all he wanted to do was score.

Salah was not likely to score from either of the positions he was in against Newcastle or Arsenal, and neither was Kane.

These are the incidents the FA should be trying to stamp out

[YemiBrazil]

If a player has a chance of scoring, hitting the deck is not in his head. Look back at Sergio Aguero’s goal against QPR to win the title for Manchester City in 2012.

How many chances did he have to go down? He didn’t because all he wanted to do was score.

Salah was not likely to score from either of the positions he was in against Newcastle or Arsenal, and neither was Kane.

This will always generate huge debate and I personally lean towards penalty decisions being strictly based on denial of clear scoring chances, which is still subjective - free-kick inside the box is fair to both sides in such cases. Stupid red cards and penalty decisions are the major reasons why some have stopped wasting time and money to see football matches live.

[Heliopolis]

I realize the article mentions Harry Kane but there is a double standard on these sorts of debates in the Premiership. Foreign players tend to receive more criticism for diving than good ol' Englishmen. Drogba used to get scorched for diving even when good ol' boys like Stevie G would dive as well.

Salah dives but to call him a perpetual diver is a joke. 9 out of 10 times he stays on his feet even when its in his advantage to go down. I've lost count of the number of times he was fouled in the box but stayed up to try and score or assist. Against Arsenal yesterday this happened on one occasion.

That being said, I hate diving and we need to figure out more solutions to reduce it. Facing potential disciplinary action after a game doesn't really help since players are caught up in the heat of the moment as they should be. Why should I care about being fined or suspended tomorrow when a dive today could give my team a PK or get an opponent a red card?

I think eventually we'll see more VAR on PK decisions and this will help a lot in terms of over-turning incorrect PK calls and punishing divers on the spot.

I don't think it'll happen but like Yemi I have a very strict view on PKs: they should only be awarded when a clear goal scoring opportunity has been denied. I can't stand it when a player gets a PK even though they are on the touchline and their shooting/passing angles have been completely cut-off. In those cases the ref should give the defending team the benefit of the doubt or the rules should be changed to award a free kick. As the article mentions, Salah won a PK yesterday in a similar circumstance even though he had no chance of scoring/creating a goal. Also, PKs should only be awarded for deliberate handballs. The fact that the 2018 WC final was determined by a PK decision awarded following an accidental handball is ridiculous.

[jette1]

Another phenomenon is that all officials essentially already on boat with Liverpool and it would take an act of God to deny them the title. penalties would be awarded to them even if they just cough or sneez.

[Damunk]

I realize the article mentions Harry Kane but there is a double standard on these sorts of debates in the Premiership. Foreign players tend to receive more criticism for diving than good ol' Englishmen. Drogba used to get scorched for diving even when good ol' boys like Stevie G would dive as well.

Salah dives but to call him a perpetual diver is a joke. 9 out of 10 times he stays on his feet even when its in his advantage to go down. I've lost count of the number of times he was fouled in the box but stayed up to try and score or assist. Against Arsenal yesterday this happened on one occasion.

That being said, I hate diving and we need to figure out more solutions to reduce it. Facing potential disciplinary action after a game doesn't really help since players are caught up in the heat of the moment as they should be. Why should I care about being fined or suspended tomorrow when a dive today could give my team a PK or get an opponent a red card?

I think eventually we'll see more VAR on PK decisions and this will help a lot in terms of over-turning incorrect PK calls and punishing divers on the spot.

I don't think it'll happen but like Yemi I have a very strict view on PKs: they should only be awarded when a clear goal scoring opportunity has been denied. I can't stand it when a player gets a PK even though they are on the touchline and their shooting/passing angles have been completely cut-off. In those cases the ref should give the defending team the benefit of the doubt or the rules should be changed to award a free kick. As the article mentions, Salah won a PK yesterday in a similar circumstance even though he had no chance of scoring/creating a goal. Also, PKs should only be awarded for deliberate handballs. The fact that the 2018 WC final was determined by a PK decision awarded following an accidental handball is ridiculous.

That'll be difficult because for over a decade now the policy has been to give the benefit of the doubt to the striker - all with a view to encouraging more goals and a more exciting game. Diving has crept in unfortunately but as we can see, unless its glaringly obvious its a dive, they get away with it.

[Damunk]

Another phenomenon is that all officials essentially already on boat with Liverpool and it would take an act of God to deny them the title. penalties would be awarded to them even if they just cough or sneez.

C'mon jette1.
They repeatedly said this about Man U when they were dominant.
They've said the same thing about Man City of recent and this same Liverpool back in the day.

[kajifu]

What of cheat ref?FA should punish ref that openly decide a game.

[txj]

The sun don fried Clattenburg's head....

[Cristao II]

That Kane card for simulation was very harsh. Replays showed the player actually tripped his leg.

[txj]

I realize the article mentions Harry Kane but there is a double standard on these sorts of debates in the Premiership. Foreign players tend to receive more criticism for diving than good ol' Englishmen. Drogba used to get scorched for diving even when good ol' boys like Stevie G would dive as well.

Salah dives but to call him a perpetual diver is a joke. 9 out of 10 times he stays on his feet even when its in his advantage to go down. I've lost count of the number of times he was fouled in the box but stayed up to try and score or assist. Against Arsenal yesterday this happened on one occasion.

That being said, I hate diving and we need to figure out more solutions to reduce it. Facing potential disciplinary action after a game doesn't really help since players are caught up in the heat of the moment as they should be. Why should I care about being fined or suspended tomorrow when a dive today could give my team a PK or get an opponent a red card?

I think eventually we'll see more VAR on PK decisions and this will help a lot in terms of over-turning incorrect PK calls and punishing divers on the spot.

I don't think it'll happen but like Yemi I have a very strict view on PKs: they should only be awarded when a clear goal scoring opportunity has been denied. I can't stand it when a player gets a PK even though they are on the touchline and their shooting/passing angles have been completely cut-off. In those cases the ref should give the defending team the benefit of the doubt or the rules should be changed to award a free kick. As the article mentions, Salah won a PK yesterday in a similar circumstance even though he had no chance of scoring/creating a goal. Also, PKs should only be awarded for deliberate handballs. The fact that the 2018 WC final was determined by a PK decision awarded following an accidental handball is ridiculous.

On the contrary, Mark Clattenburg never mentions Harry Kane being actually booked for simulation. The mention of Kane is from the editors...