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CAF HANDLING OF HOSTING RIGHTS

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:57 am
by ogiso
It seems to me that CAF has made a right hash of handling the hosting right matters relating to the next few ANCs. Firstly increasing the number of teams for the tournament part way through qualifying for 2019. Stripping Cameroon of 2019 hosting is understandable, but taking a unilateral decision to take 2021 away from Ivory Coast is amateurish. This is then compounded with the incrediluty of awarding 2021 to Cameroon! For all Hayatou’s faults I doubt that such ridiculous decisions were made under his tenure. I’m still not convinced of the wisdom of moving the tournament to June/July either.

Would be interesting to hear what people think.

Re: CAF HANDLING OF HOSTING RIGHTS

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 1:33 pm
by Eaglezbeak
Taking the hosting rights of Cameroon was of cause the best thing to do but not having anyone on standby was a mistake as of now they don't have a host to replace them,if South Africa or Egypt are not up to hosting what happens next?
I do think playing the AFCON in June/July is the logical thing to do as Africa does import a lot of their players to Europe and missing in the winter whilst the European season is in progress can't be good for anyone.

Re: CAF HANDLING OF HOSTING RIGHTS

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 2:36 pm
by ohenhen1
Africa should do what is best for Africa not Europe or for a few players that play in Europe. The Afcon should be held in January not June. We have to develop African leagues.

Re: CAF HANDLING OF HOSTING RIGHTS

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 3:44 pm
by Eaglezbeak
ohenhen1 wrote:Africa should do what is best for Africa not Europe or for a few players that play in Europe. The Afcon should be held in January not June. We have to develop African leagues.
That's something that doesn't look like we're going to do any time soon and CAF can't wait for its 56 members to fix up before making a decision even if they where to set standards for members before competing in any CAF competitions only a few will be able to compete.
How does playing in June or July help to develope African football?CAF has expanded the African Champions league and have the Chan (for home based international players) if that isn't helping what will?

Re: CAF HANDLING OF HOSTING RIGHTS

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 3:48 pm
by kalani JR
Move to a Nations League format.

Re: CAF HANDLING OF HOSTING RIGHTS

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:36 pm
by Kabalega
kalani JR wrote:Move to a Nations League format.
Why?
How does this help Africa?

PS: Africa is not Nigeria....

Re: CAF HANDLING OF HOSTING RIGHTS

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:13 am
by folem
ohenhen1 wrote:Africa should do what is best for Africa not Europe or for a few players that play in Europe. The Afcon should be held in January not June. We have to develop African leagues.
Why January? what about March? ... or April? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Re: CAF HANDLING OF HOSTING RIGHTS

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:33 am
by kalani JR
Kabalega wrote:
kalani JR wrote:Move to a Nations League format.
Why?
How does this help Africa?

PS: Africa is not Nigeria....
Teams get consistent competitive games that align with the world football [read European] calendar. No country is burdened with hosting a dozen plus teams for two weeks since we've seen that very few can actually handle that load.

Re: CAF HANDLING OF HOSTING RIGHTS

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 8:41 am
by theYemster
ohenhen1 wrote:Africa should do what is best for Africa not Europe or for a few players that play in Europe. The Afcon should be held in January not June. We have to develop African leagues.
How is having the tourney is January any better for Africa than having it in June?

CHAN is supposed to help develop African leagues and African leagues should put structures in place to develop itself, not via AFCON.

Re: CAF HANDLING OF HOSTING RIGHTS

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:32 pm
by Kabalega
kalani JR wrote:
Kabalega wrote:
kalani JR wrote:Move to a Nations League format.
Why?
How does this help Africa?

PS: Africa is not Nigeria....
Teams get consistent competitive games that align with the world football [read European] calendar. No country is burdened with hosting a dozen plus teams for two weeks since we've seen that very few can actually handle that load.
WTF! :!: :!: :shock: :shock:

Re: CAF HANDLING OF HOSTING RIGHTS

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:02 pm
by Odas
folem wrote:
ohenhen1 wrote:Africa should do what is best for Africa not Europe or for a few players that play in Europe. The Afcon should be held in January not June. We have to develop African leagues.
Why January? what about March? ... or April? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
... January to April in any of the years AFCON tournament is in motion is okay, provided it's not in June, July and August (month of rainy season). :D :D

Re: CAF HANDLING OF HOSTING RIGHTS

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 11:22 pm
by kalani JR
Kabalega wrote:
kalani JR wrote:
Kabalega wrote:
kalani JR wrote:Move to a Nations League format.
Why?
How does this help Africa?

PS: Africa is not Nigeria....
Teams get consistent competitive games that align with the world football [read European] calendar. No country is burdened with hosting a dozen plus teams for two weeks since we've seen that very few can actually handle that load.
WTF! :!: :!: :shock: :shock:
UEFA runs football is that what confused you?

Re: CAF HANDLING OF HOSTING RIGHTS

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:29 pm
by blackjack
I mostly agree. The worst decision was turning the 2019 and 2021 contests into 24 team tournaments when the hosts made bids to host 16 teams tournaments.
Where I'm not sure I agree is when some people say moving the tournament to june was a mistake. I'd say if the tournament is played in the northern hemisphere and CAF keeps it in june, then yes it's also a stupid decision. However when the tournament is played in the southern hemisphere, I think june is the best period. This is why I really hope South Aftica host the next afcon and not Egypt.

Re: CAF HANDLING OF HOSTING RIGHTS

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:59 pm
by ogiso
Most of Western Africa will be in its rainy season in June/July. And it can’t be held in the Southern Hemisphere all the time.
blackjack wrote:I mostly agree. The worst decision was turning the 2019 and 2021 contests into 24 team tournaments when the hosts made bids to host 16 teams tournaments.
Where I'm not sure I agree is when some people say moving the tournament to june was a mistake. I'd say if the tournament is played in the northern hemisphere and CAF keeps it in june, then yes it's also a stupid decision. However when the tournament is played in the southern hemisphere, I think june is the best period. This is why I really hope South Aftica host the next afcon and not Egypt.

Re: CAF HANDLING OF HOSTING RIGHTS

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:44 pm
by blackjack
ogiso wrote:Most of Western Africa will be in its rainy season in June/July. And it can’t be held in the Southern Hemisphere all the time.
blackjack wrote:I mostly agree. The worst decision was turning the 2019 and 2021 contests into 24 team tournaments when the hosts made bids to host 16 teams tournaments.
Where I'm not sure I agree is when some people say moving the tournament to june was a mistake. I'd say if the tournament is played in the northern hemisphere and CAF keeps it in june, then yes it's also a stupid decision. However when the tournament is played in the southern hemisphere, I think june is the best period. This is why I really hope South Aftica host the next afcon and not Egypt.
I'd say the best thing to do is to change depending on the chosen location with the climate as the only criteria. June when it's hosted in the south, january when it's in North Africa.

Re: CAF HANDLING OF HOSTING RIGHTS

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 10:50 am
by kalani JR
blackjack wrote:
ogiso wrote:Most of Western Africa will be in its rainy season in June/July. And it can’t be held in the Southern Hemisphere all the time.
blackjack wrote:I mostly agree. The worst decision was turning the 2019 and 2021 contests into 24 team tournaments when the hosts made bids to host 16 teams tournaments.
Where I'm not sure I agree is when some people say moving the tournament to june was a mistake. I'd say if the tournament is played in the northern hemisphere and CAF keeps it in june, then yes it's also a stupid decision. However when the tournament is played in the southern hemisphere, I think june is the best period. This is why I really hope South Aftica host the next afcon and not Egypt.
I'd say the best thing to do is to change depending on the chosen location with the climate as the only criteria. June when it's hosted in the south, january when it's in North Africa.
There has to be some consistency with setting these dates, maybe the next world cup will change that.

Re: CAF HANDLING OF HOSTING RIGHTS

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:52 pm
by oloye
Everything with Africa is fraught with confusion as a result of not having a clear identity or goal. No wonder confusion reigns on the continent

Re: CAF HANDLING OF HOSTING RIGHTS

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:19 pm
by kajifu
oloye wrote:Everything with Africa is fraught with confusion as a result of not having a clear identity or goal. No wonder confusion reigns on the continent
But with all this men of God in Africa,why are they not praying for change?
Our continent need God blessing to touch hearts and change us.We are so backward that some of us in abroad so happy as if we left hell to heaven and meet God.
Simple planning even with those who spend most of t heir life in first world countries is worst

Re: CAF HANDLING OF HOSTING RIGHTS

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:57 pm
by mcal
...even with the move to summer month, there may not be star players available. Wait and see as some will want to go on vacation after a long season for club.

Re: CAF HANDLING OF HOSTING RIGHTS

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 6:49 pm
by Enugu II
mcal wrote:...even with the move to summer month, there may not be star players available. Wait and see as some will want to go on vacation after a long season for club.

KPOM. CAF is about to find out, bros. Trying to appease European clubs will end up being about biting one's fingers.

Re: CAF HANDLING OF HOSTING RIGHTS

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:04 am
by Heliopolis
CAF is a disaster. Its no coincidence we're the most backward footballing continent on the planet. ACN should be in January, every 2 years, with 16 teams, period.

Also, why the heck do we change our hosts like musical chairs? Host countries have like 5 years to prepare. If they don't show significant progress 2-3 years before an ACN, they should be stripped. None of this nonsense about stripping hosts 6 months prior. We shouldn't have another ACN in Egypt or SA so soon. Having it in Egypt in June will mean having to play the games at like 9pm local time, otherwise its going to be 40 degrees celcius.

Re: CAF HANDLING OF HOSTING RIGHTS

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:57 am
by Rawlings
Africa is a disgrace!!!
52 countries and we cannot get just one to organize an African cup

Like I suggested once, which some of u blew off, it's time the ANC was held outside Africa
A nations cup Ghana-Nigeria game in Chicago, Houston or London will definitely have better attendance than in say Duoala, Rabat or Nairobi

Re: CAF HANDLING OF HOSTING RIGHTS

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:22 am
by Kabalega
kalani JR wrote:
Kabalega wrote:
kalani JR wrote:
Kabalega wrote:
kalani JR wrote:Move to a Nations League format.
Why?
How does this help Africa?

PS: Africa is not Nigeria....
Teams get consistent competitive games that align with the world football [read European] calendar. No country is burdened with hosting a dozen plus teams for two weeks since we've seen that very few can actually handle that load.
WTF! :!: :!: :shock: :shock:
UEFA runs football is that what confused you?
Africans bending over and opening yansh for Europe is what confused me.