Biesla "spy gate" what's the outrage about?
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Biesla "spy gate" what's the outrage about?
There has been a outpouring of moral outrage from some sections of the English media after a Leeds "spy" was accosted at Derby's training ground in the run up to the match between the two teams.
It left me somewhat suprised as I had long thought that sending spies about was something that happened, may be not all the time, but it certainly went on so I am struggling to understand what the kerfuffle is about.
I remember this for instance
https://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer/w ... 21322.html
Even sef the guy accosted was on a public road in a location where many ordinary fans have stood to watch training . It is not like he was dangling from the roof Mission Impossible style like Tom Cruise.
It left me somewhat suprised as I had long thought that sending spies about was something that happened, may be not all the time, but it certainly went on so I am struggling to understand what the kerfuffle is about.
I remember this for instance
https://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer/w ... 21322.html
Even sef the guy accosted was on a public road in a location where many ordinary fans have stood to watch training . It is not like he was dangling from the roof Mission Impossible style like Tom Cruise.
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Re: Biesla "spy gate" was the outrage about?
Even in the article you posted, it was seen by some as disrespectful so I suppose spying has always been controversial.
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Re: Biesla "spy gate" was the outrage about?
These english blokes are sore losers.... Abeg get on with the game
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Re: Biesla "spy gate" was the outrage about?
ukwala wrote:Even in the article you posted, it was seen by some as disrespectful so I suppose spying has always been controversial.
That they were preparing for a Swedish spying operation suggests they expected it as part and parcel of the game.
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Re: Biesla "spy gate" what's the outrage about?
AreaDaddy wrote:There has been a outpouring of moral outrage from some sections of the English media after a Leeds "spy" was accosted at Derby's training ground in the run up to the match between the two teams.
It left me somewhat suprised as I had long thought that sending spies about was something that happened, may be not all the time, but it certainly went on so I am struggling to understand what the kerfuffle is about.
I remember this for instance
https://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer/w ... 21322.html
Even sef the guy accosted was on a public road in a location where many ordinary fans have stood to watch training . It is not like he was dangling from the roof Mission Impossible style like Tom Cruise.
Lampard the media golden boy is the reason for the outrage. If it were the other way round, I think the narrative will be different.
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Re: Biesla "spy gate" was the outrage about?
These English folks are something else. Dem no get respect at all.The YeyeMan wrote:tfco wrote:
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Only after the swedes had pulled the stunt earlier.AreaDaddy wrote:ukwala wrote:Even in the article you posted, it was seen by some as disrespectful so I suppose spying has always been controversial.
That they were preparing for a Swedish spying operation suggests they expected it as part and parcel of the game.
Mr Shin’s strategy appears to have been in response to a Swedish spy operation at South Korea’s pre-World Cup training camp in Austria earlier this month, when a member of Sweden’s coaching staff attempted to observe their team sessions.
Lars Jacobsson reportedly persuaded a local couple to let him use their house near the training base to conduct surveillance with a high performance telescope and video camera.
“It took a long car journey up the mountains to reach the house, but it was a perfect spot to observe the Korean team’s training,” he said, according to Reuters.
He had earlier been ejected from a closed training drill after failing to convince the Koreans that he was a passing tourist.
Coach Janne Andersson apologised on Sunday, saying: “It is very important we show respect for an opponent and if what we did has been perceived in another way, then we apologise,” he said.
He admitted that jersey-swapping in the warm-up games was brought into play after the team heard reports of the “Swedish spy.”
Re: Biesla "spy gate" what's the outrage about?
I do not think this is a big deal, at least IMO. We complain here that our coaches do not send people to go watch opponents or acquire videos to watch opponents. Now someone does it and we should judge that wrong? Let Frank Lampard go eat VULTURE.
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Incidentally, Bielsa was coach when Argentina beat us in the 2002 WC and Baba Oni as coach said he didn't bother to watch opponents b/4 we played them.Enugu II wrote:I do not think this is a big deal, at least IMO. We complain here that our coaches do not send people to go watch opponents or acquire videos to watch opponents. Now someone does it and we should judge that wrong? Let Frank Lampard go eat VULTURE.
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So Baba Oni and Frank Lampard dey in de same boat, ehenu!cic old boy wrote:Incidentally, Bielsa was coach when Argentina beat us in the 2002 WC and Baba Oni as coach said he didn't bother to watch opponents b/4 we played them.Enugu II wrote:I do not think this is a big deal, at least IMO. We complain here that our coaches do not send people to go watch opponents or acquire videos to watch opponents. Now someone does it and we should judge that wrong? Let Frank Lampard go eat VULTURE.
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Since when was spying on your opponents an offence? Is checking out the opposing team not legitimate homework?
Abeg, make we hear word jare. Bielsa is a very thorough man!
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Na wa.... so its okay to go watch your opponent play a gamr than to watch them in training.
Re: Biesla "spy gate" what's the outrage about?
It's not illegal. It's not like he trespassed on private land.Enugu II wrote:I do not think this is a big deal, at least IMO. We complain here that our coaches do not send people to go watch opponents or acquire videos to watch opponents. Now someone does it and we should judge that wrong? Let Frank Lampard go eat VULTURE.
I think they'd draw a difference between scouting an opponent and checking them out in their preparations for a specific match where a team is preparing its tactics.
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Oba wrote:It's not illegal. It's not like he trespassed on private land.Enugu II wrote:I do not think this is a big deal, at least IMO. We complain here that our coaches do not send people to go watch opponents or acquire videos to watch opponents. Now someone does it and we should judge that wrong? Let Frank Lampard go eat VULTURE.
I think they'd draw a difference between scouting an opponent and checking them out in their preparations for a specific match where a team is preparing its tactics.
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Ayo Akinfe wrote:Since when was spying on your opponents an offence? Is checking out the opposing team not legitimate homework?
Abeg, make we hear word jare. Bielsa is a very thorough man!
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Re: Biesla "spy gate" what's the outrage about?
Enugu II wrote:So Baba Oni and Frank Lampard dey in de same boat, ehenu!cic old boy wrote:Incidentally, Bielsa was coach when Argentina beat us in the 2002 WC and Baba Oni as coach said he didn't bother to watch opponents b/4 we played them.Enugu II wrote:I do not think this is a big deal, at least IMO. We complain here that our coaches do not send people to go watch opponents or acquire videos to watch opponents. Now someone does it and we should judge that wrong? Let Frank Lampard go eat VULTURE.
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Rotflmao!!SylverEagles wrote:These English folks are something else. Dem no get respect at all.The YeyeMan wrote:tfco wrote:
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Re: Biesla "spy gate" what's the outrage about?
Look at all these haters talking rubbish because it's cool to hate on the English. It has never been acceptable to spy on the opposition, especially at their training ground.
Go watch them play a match or get a video.
I'm sure if the English had done it to Spain or Germany, na different thing Una go talk
Go watch them play a match or get a video.
I'm sure if the English had done it to Spain or Germany, na different thing Una go talk
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