Africa Cup of Nations: Comoros lodge Cameroon complaint
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Actually, I think it is a better plan than not being there. This is something that other confederations could possibly copy instead of CAF always copying from others. Think out of the box.kalani JR wrote:What was the point of Cameroon even being in the qualifiers? CAF may be run worse than any African govt.
The host being in the qualifiers gives the host games to play in lieu of international friendlies which could be difficult to arrange considering that possible opponents are playing competitive games in various competitions (including Europe). Second, points against the host count for their group opponents who get to play exactly same number of games as teams in other groups. It is a creative arrangement that provides benefits to all members of the group, including the host. For me, it is thumbs up to CAF on this.
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Re: Africa Cup of Nations: Comoros lodge Cameroon complaint
The downside is that they could influence who qualifies from that group! From the get-go, they could decide who to dash 6 points.Enugu II wrote:Actually, I think it is a better plan than not being there. This is something that other confederations could possibly copy instead of CAF always copying from others. Think out of the box.kalani JR wrote:What was the point of Cameroon even being in the qualifiers? CAF may be run worse than any African govt.
The host being in the qualifiers gives the host games to play in lieu of international friendlies which could be difficult to arrange considering that possible opponents are playing competitive games in various competitions (including Europe). Second, points against the host count for their group opponents who get to play exactly same number of games as teams in other groups. It is a creative arrangement that provides benefits to all members of the group, including the host. For me, it is thumbs up to CAF on this.
Re: Africa Cup of Nations: Comoros lodge Cameroon complaint
Theoretically they could but why would they? There has to be a motivating factor to do such a thing and such motivator may not be entirely absent in other groups.ukwala wrote:The downside is that they could influence who qualifies from that group! From the get-go, they could decide who to dash 6 points.Enugu II wrote:Actually, I think it is a better plan than not being there. This is something that other confederations could possibly copy instead of CAF always copying from others. Think out of the box.kalani JR wrote:What was the point of Cameroon even being in the qualifiers? CAF may be run worse than any African govt.
The host being in the qualifiers gives the host games to play in lieu of international friendlies which could be difficult to arrange considering that possible opponents are playing competitive games in various competitions (including Europe). Second, points against the host count for their group opponents who get to play exactly same number of games as teams in other groups. It is a creative arrangement that provides benefits to all members of the group, including the host. For me, it is thumbs up to CAF on this.
The difficulties of statistical thinking describes a puzzling limitation of our mind: our excessive confidence in what we believe we know, and our apparent inability to acknowledge the full extent of our ignorance and the uncertainty of the world we live in. We are prone to overestimate how much we understand about the world and to underestimate the role of chance in events -- Daniel Kahneman (2011), Winner of the Nobel Prize in Economics
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Re: Africa Cup of Nations: Comoros lodge Cameroon complaint
I am not sure the Cameroun situation exists in other groups. Cameroun is guaranteed qualification even if they score zero points. So from the first match, they can decide to favour one team.Enugu II wrote:Theoretically they could but why would they? There has to be a motivating factor to do such a thing and such motivator may not be entirely absent in other groups.ukwala wrote:The downside is that they could influence who qualifies from that group! From the get-go, they could decide who to dash 6 points.Enugu II wrote:Actually, I think it is a better plan than not being there. This is something that other confederations could possibly copy instead of CAF always copying from others. Think out of the box.kalani JR wrote:What was the point of Cameroon even being in the qualifiers? CAF may be run worse than any African govt.
The host being in the qualifiers gives the host games to play in lieu of international friendlies which could be difficult to arrange considering that possible opponents are playing competitive games in various competitions (including Europe). Second, points against the host count for their group opponents who get to play exactly same number of games as teams in other groups. It is a creative arrangement that provides benefits to all members of the group, including the host. For me, it is thumbs up to CAF on this.
Re: Africa Cup of Nations: Comoros lodge Cameroon complaint
I do see your point in theory but see it as highly improbable because what incentives exist beyond a straight up cash deal. There is hardly any competitive advantages that accrue for Cameroon in doing such a thing.ukwala wrote:I am not sure the Cameroun situation exists in other groups. Cameroun is guaranteed qualification even if they score zero points. So from the first match, they can decide to favour one team.Enugu II wrote:Theoretically they could but why would they? There has to be a motivating factor to do such a thing and such motivator may not be entirely absent in other groups.ukwala wrote:The downside is that they could influence who qualifies from that group! From the get-go, they could decide who to dash 6 points.Enugu II wrote:Actually, I think it is a better plan than not being there. This is something that other confederations could possibly copy instead of CAF always copying from others. Think out of the box.kalani JR wrote:What was the point of Cameroon even being in the qualifiers? CAF may be run worse than any African govt.
The host being in the qualifiers gives the host games to play in lieu of international friendlies which could be difficult to arrange considering that possible opponents are playing competitive games in various competitions (including Europe). Second, points against the host count for their group opponents who get to play exactly same number of games as teams in other groups. It is a creative arrangement that provides benefits to all members of the group, including the host. For me, it is thumbs up to CAF on this.
The difficulties of statistical thinking describes a puzzling limitation of our mind: our excessive confidence in what we believe we know, and our apparent inability to acknowledge the full extent of our ignorance and the uncertainty of the world we live in. We are prone to overestimate how much we understand about the world and to underestimate the role of chance in events -- Daniel Kahneman (2011), Winner of the Nobel Prize in Economics
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Caf president Ahmad rubbishes Comoros Cas case against Cameroon
Michael Madyira
Comoros have approached the Court of Arbitration for Sport (Cas) seeking Cameroon’s expulsion from the 2019 Afcon tournament
Caf president Ahmad Ahmad says the case filed by Comoros at the Court of Arbitration for Sport (Cas) asking for Cameroon to be kicked out of the 2019 Afcon finals has no merit.
Cameroon was stripped of the 2019 Afcon hosting rights due to ill-preparedness and Egypt has replaced them.
Cameroon will host the 2021 edition.
However, Comoros are seeking the Indomitable Lions' expulsion from the Afcon tournament citing Article 92 of Caf regulations.
According to Article 92: “If a country having been entrusted with the organisation of the final tournament of the Africa Cup of Nations is desisting or the tournament is being withdrawn from it, it shall be subject, in addition to further disciplinary sanctions, to a fine fixed according to the following scale:
“92.3. Withdrawal notified within one year before the date of the final tournament: a fine of five hundred thousand (500,000) U.S. dollars and a suspension of the next edition of Afcon of it’s A national team, without considering the concerned edition.”
But Ahmad has hit back saying Comoros’ case does not hold water.
“They are fourth in their group. Even if they believe that Cameroon does not deserve to be at the Afcon, Cameroon has just shown on the pitch that they deserve qualification. Everything must first be played on the pitch,” Ahmad was quoted as saying by Radio France International.
“As for the victory on paper, it really takes some irregularities for this to be taken into account. Our rules are clear. Clause 92 talks about withdrawal. And legally this is not the case. So section 92 does not apply. It was Caf who decided to postpone the Afcon of Cameroon, and make this shift (now in 2021, edition).
“It is postponement, not cancellation of the Afcon in Cameroon. Cameroon is not affected by this article that the Comoros want to use.”
It is not yet clear when Cas will make their ruling.
Cameroon qualified from Group B where Comoros finished at the basement with five points after they were beaten 3-0 by the Indomitable Lions in the last qualifying game