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https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/17/africa/n ... index.html

FIBA and the NBA are combining to start a pro league in several countries. This is of interest to me for two personal reasons:

1) Whereas FIBA and the NBA are pushing their sport into Africa, FIFA is cavalier about the fate of football in Africa and the rest of the world except W. Europe. Anyone who follows my posts closely may recall that I've been critical of FIFA because of this. I'm not asking to establish leagues around the world but to encourage their federations to look into it. The reaction from some on this site who viscerally reject new ideas is to say it's not FIFA's responsibility to start leagues around the world, even though it wasn't what I was pushing.

2) I've also proposed a W. African league of about 20 teams (give or take) with countries in the region contributing one to three teams, based on viability. It would be run professionally comparable to the European leagues. There are new features and ideas to come with this league. For example, a team located in Lagos can arrange to play some home games in Ibadan, the Enugu team to play in PH, etc. Again the naysayers rose: "Not enough fans", "bad national economy", "too much travel cost", etc. So people are seeing pitfalls where FIBA and the NBA are seeing opportunities, the bane of Africa.

I just hope that with FIBA/NBA doing this, they'll take a second look at the W. African league. (BTW, the WA league could be used as pilot project leading to the potential creation of leagues in N. Africa, C & E. Africa, and southern Africa,)
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Since Sepp Blatter left or rather was removed, FIFA emphasis on African football infrastructure and development has waned considerably.
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Bell wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/17/africa/n ... index.html

FIBA and the NBA are combining to start a pro league in several countries. This is of interest to me for two personal reasons:

1) Whereas FIBA and the NBA are pushing their sport into Africa, FIFA is cavalier about the fate of football in Africa and the rest of the world except W. Europe. Anyone who follows my posts closely may recall that I've been critical of FIFA because of this. I'm not asking to establish leagues around the world but to encourage their federations to look into it. The reaction from some on this site who viscerally reject new ideas is to say it's not FIFA's responsibility to start leagues around the world, even though it wasn't what I was pushing.

2) I've also proposed a W. African league of about 20 teams (give or take) with countries in the region contributing one to three teams, based on viability. It would be run professionally comparable to the European leagues. There are new features and ideas to come with this league. For example, a team located in Lagos can arrange to play some home games in Ibadan, the Enugu team to play in PH, etc. Again the naysayers rose: "Not enough fans", "bad national economy", "too much travel cost", etc. So people are seeing pitfalls where FIBA and the NBA are seeing opportunities, the bane of Africa.


I just hope that with FIBA/NBA doing this, they'll take a second look at the W. African league. (BTW, the WA league could be used as pilot project leading to the potential creation of leagues in N. Africa, C & E. Africa, and southern Africa,)
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FiFA goal project and etc.

FiFA is already king in Africa with CAF champions league and etc. What more do you want FiFA to do in Africa?

Where is CAF?

Where is the NFF?
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DIMKA76 wrote:Since Sepp Blatter left or rather was removed, FIFA emphasis on African football infrastructure and development has waned considerably.

THE PROBLEM IS NOT AFRICA ONLY; IN FACT...


...it's a world problem, except W. Europe, but no one in FIFA seems to notice or care.
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Basketball and football work very differently. FIBA is not as strong as FIFA for instance.
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jette1 wrote:
Bell wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/17/africa/n ... index.html

FIBA and the NBA are combining to start a pro league in several countries. This is of interest to me for two personal reasons:

1) Whereas FIBA and the NBA are pushing their sport into Africa, FIFA is cavalier about the fate of football in Africa and the rest of the world except W. Europe. Anyone who follows my posts closely may recall that I've been critical of FIFA because of this. I'm not asking to establish leagues around the world but to encourage their federations to look into it. The reaction from some on this site who viscerally reject new ideas is to say it's not FIFA's responsibility to start leagues around the world, even though it wasn't what I was pushing.

2) I've also proposed a W. African league of about 20 teams (give or take) with countries in the region contributing one to three teams, based on viability. It would be run professionally comparable to the European leagues. There are new features and ideas to come with this league. For example, a team located in Lagos can arrange to play some home games in Ibadan, the Enugu team to play in PH, etc. Again the naysayers rose: "Not enough fans", "bad national economy", "too much travel cost", etc. So people are seeing pitfalls where FIBA and the NBA are seeing opportunities, the bane of Africa.


I just hope that with FIBA/NBA doing this, they'll take a second look at the W. African league. (BTW, the WA league could be used as pilot project leading to the potential creation of leagues in N. Africa, C & E. Africa, and southern Africa,)
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(On a separate note, I think it's nice that you participate in debates on this site but why do assume a confrontational approach in most of your posts?)
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Bell wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/17/africa/n ... index.html

FIBA and the NBA are combining to start a pro league in several countries. This is of interest to me for two personal reasons:

1) Whereas FIBA and the NBA are pushing their sport into Africa, FIFA is cavalier about the fate of football in Africa and the rest of the world except W. Europe. Anyone who follows my posts closely may recall that I've been critical of FIFA because of this. I'm not asking to establish leagues around the world but to encourage their federations to look into it. The reaction from some on this site who viscerally reject new ideas is to say it's not FIFA's responsibility to start leagues around the world, even though it wasn't what I was pushing.

2) I've also proposed a W. African league of about 20 teams (give or take) with countries in the region contributing one to three teams, based on viability. It would be run professionally comparable to the European leagues. There are new features and ideas to come with this league. For example, a team located in Lagos can arrange to play some home games in Ibadan, the Enugu team to play in PH, etc. Again the naysayers rose: "Not enough fans", "bad national economy", "too much travel cost", etc. So people are seeing pitfalls where FIBA and the NBA are seeing opportunities, the bane of Africa.

I just hope that with FIBA/NBA doing this, they'll take a second look at the W. African league. (BTW, the WA league could be used as pilot project leading to the potential creation of leagues in N. Africa, C & E. Africa, and southern Africa,)
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There is a major difference between the two sports in Africa and that should inform the issue. First, note that professional football already exists within countries all over Africa. Ofcourse, the levels differ in terms of success. This is the basis of continental club competitions now for almost 50 years.
In basketball, I am unaware of such continental club competition for a sustained period. This is specifically the void that FIBA and the NBA has stepped in to fill by ensuring such competition either on club or NT levels.
What is new in that regard that FIFA should introduce? They already exist in African football. WAFU already has competitions for NTs, women, and youth. So what would FIFA do that will be different?
I think that talk about FIFA help should be nuanced. In essence a focus in terms of fund, perhaps, to support what already exists.
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ohenhen1 wrote:FiFA goal project and etc.

FiFA is already king in Africa with CAF champions league and etc. What more do you want FiFA to do in Africa?

Where is CAF?

Where is the NFF?
YOU'RE RIGHT TO CALL OUT CAF AND THE NFF, BECAUSE...


...they (and the other FIFA federations) are more immediately responsible. I just called out FIFA because if the federations fail, it falls on FIFA to pick up the baton. FIBA and the NBA did not ask, "What's NBBF doing?". They saw a problem/opportunity and they are acting. I don't know what you mean by FIFA being king in Africa - it is such complacency that leads to a fall. Even self-interest alone should compel FIFA to act because weak federations mean a weaker FIFA
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