AKPEYI CONTINUES IN USUAL FORM

[Enugu II]

In truth he has only really had two bad games for Naija: Against South Africa in UYO and against Argentina in the friendly. Aside that he has been ok

Even against South Africa where he made that one mistake coming out for the ball for which he was MUCH maligned he was not the cause of any of SA's two goals

Feel free to look up his club performances on you tube staring with this one for Heartland. He is actually a decent Goalie.

Not by any means saying he is the best Naija has but definitely better than the constant piling on you guys do suggests

Considering he’s played only about 6 games for the SE, that’s a rather HIGH percentage (33.3%)...

Meanwhile, he totally sucked in his lone appearance at the Rio Olympics. The reality is that we regularly check out games involving Nigerian players/prospects on the Internet, and frankly if we see a Naija sucking (or simply having a bad day at the office), it’s disingenuous/dishonest to pretend/contend otherwise. There are GKs who are capable of the spectacular while regularly fluffing the basics (David James comes to mind, as does Gomez now at Watford but formerly at Spurs), and there are players who excel at club level but fail to transfer similar form (or fulfill their potential) at senior international level. Perhaps Akpeyi is just one of such players, but the brutal reality is that he has never inspired much confidence for the SE.

Well i guess I am one who generally goes with Trendlines over Headlines so perhaps I am not as quick to discard players over statistically rare albeit sensational events

For starters no statistician worth his paycheck would even attempt to make any kind of statistical inference based on a sample six of 6.
30 I believe is the minimum for Gaussian distribution as well as A Uniform distribution while other diistributioons have even larger threshholds. So saying that he has had 2 gaffes in six games really means nothing afterall Loris Karius of Liverpool had 2 in 1 game against Real Madrid

This of course may have reduced Karius ranking if negative internet Headlines was what one went by but statistically speaking he was ranked a decent 9th in the EPL if his actual numbers were to go by https://www.thisisanfield.com/2018/03/w ... -stoppers/

In any case even the supposed Gaffes by Akpeyi in the Eagles shirt had little to do with his technical competence.

Agaisnt Argentina he handled ball outside the box because he thought the ref had blown for offside . The commentators even agree that there was a whistle in the background
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Furthermore , what is often not mentioned by his critics is that after that gaffe he goes on to make a couple of impressive saves during that first half .

Agaisnt South Africa he actually does cut the cross out with an impressive dive but appears to collide with his defenders foot hence knocking the ball away. Theafter he quickly recovers to smother the ball TO-WIT
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Per his supposed "Olympic Disaster" well he was never Siasia's first choice to begin with and giving that you still haven't provided video evidence of Best Ogedegbe sucking at the 1980's Olympics as you like wise Openly claimed on another thread i will take this your proclamation with a grain of salt unless you provide VIDEO evidence showing otherwise .

For whatever its worth, Gehnet Rohr was an observer at the Olympics and apparently DOESNT think he sucked that much and accordingly has continued to invite him to the SE setup. OTOH Emmanuel DANIEL whom was Siasias preferred top choice hasn't even smelled an invitation.

In any case I am not Akpeyis agent , neither do I even particularly care if he ever wears an Eagles shirt again . I am simply saying that an objective look at his overall career doesn't indicate that he is one thats anymore prone to gaffes than other keepers as your headline suggests . He may indeed be a good club keeper and a poor NT keeper but overall he has a decent record

BAP,

I agree with some of the points that you have made, especially with the Olympics. Siasia made it clear that Daniel was his starting goalie going into the Olympics. That Akpeyi got invited at all was based on a very poor game Daniel had at a tourney in Asia. A disappointed Siasia made it clear then that he felt the lack of competition for Daniel's position was the reason and he vowed to invite a veteran goalie to force Daniel to perform better. Enter Akpeyi. That was the situation going into the Olympics.

Gotti was incorrect with the claim that Akpeyi has played 6 games for SE. He actually has played in 10 but as someone pointed out Akpeyi has not been outstanding in several of them after his outstanding debut against South Africa in 2015. You certainly should be able to use 10 games in statistically analysis. The statistical rule that you point to has to be used contextually. The point you make with the minimum of 30 games makes sense when the universe is way above 100. However, in appearances for Nigeria, I bet less than 10% of Nigerian players (who have appeared for the country) have ever played 30 games.

In my view, Akpeyi is a good goalie but for some strange reason(s) he has not played up to his potential for Nigeria. I can see him losing his spot on the NT in the coming weeks or months. That is just my tuppence.

[BAP]

In truth he has only really had two bad games for Naija: Against South Africa in UYO and against Argentina in the friendly. Aside that he has been ok

Even against South Africa where he made that one mistake coming out for the ball for which he was MUCH maligned he was not the cause of any of SA's two goals

Feel free to look up his club performances on you tube staring with this one for Heartland. He is actually a decent Goalie.

Not by any means saying he is the best Naija has but definitely better than the constant piling on you guys do suggests

Considering he’s played only about 6 games for the SE, that’s a rather HIGH percentage (33.3%)...

Meanwhile, he totally sucked in his lone appearance at the Rio Olympics. The reality is that we regularly check out games involving Nigerian players/prospects on the Internet, and frankly if we see a Naija sucking (or simply having a bad day at the office), it’s disingenuous/dishonest to pretend/contend otherwise. There are GKs who are capable of the spectacular while regularly fluffing the basics (David James comes to mind, as does Gomez now at Watford but formerly at Spurs), and there are players who excel at club level but fail to transfer similar form (or fulfill their potential) at senior international level. Perhaps Akpeyi is just one of such players, but the brutal reality is that he has never inspired much confidence for the SE.

Well i guess I am one who generally goes with Trendlines over Headlines so perhaps I am not as quick to discard players over statistically rare albeit sensational events

For starters no statistician worth his paycheck would even attempt to make any kind of statistical inference based on a sample six of 6.
30 I believe is the minimum for Gaussian distribution as well as A Uniform distribution while other diistributioons have even larger threshholds. So saying that he has had 2 gaffes in six games really means nothing afterall Loris Karius of Liverpool had 2 in 1 game against Real Madrid

This of course may have reduced Karius ranking if negative internet Headlines was what one went by but statistically speaking he was ranked a decent 9th in the EPL if his actual numbers were to go by https://www.thisisanfield.com/2018/03/w ... -stoppers/

In any case even the supposed Gaffes by Akpeyi in the Eagles shirt had little to do with his technical competence.

Agaisnt Argentina he handled ball outside the box because he thought the ref had blown for offside . The commentators even agree that there was a whistle in the background
[/video]

Furthermore , what is often not mentioned by his critics is that after that gaffe he goes on to make a couple of impressive saves during that first half .

Agaisnt South Africa he actually does cut the cross out with an impressive dive but appears to collide with his defenders foot hence knocking the ball away. Theafter he quickly recovers to smother the ball TO-WIT
[/video]

Per his supposed "Olympic Disaster" well he was never Siasia's first choice to begin with and giving that you still haven't provided video evidence of Best Ogedegbe sucking at the 1980's Olympics as you like wise Openly claimed on another thread i will take this your proclamation with a grain of salt unless you provide VIDEO evidence showing otherwise .

For whatever its worth, Gehnet Rohr was an observer at the Olympics and apparently DOESNT think he sucked that much and accordingly has continued to invite him to the SE setup. OTOH Emmanuel DANIEL whom was Siasias preferred top choice hasn't even smelled an invitation.

In any case I am not Akpeyis agent , neither do I even particularly care if he ever wears an Eagles shirt again . I am simply saying that an objective look at his overall career doesn't indicate that he is one thats anymore prone to gaffes than other keepers as your headline suggests . He may indeed be a good club keeper and a poor NT keeper but overall he has a decent record

BAP,

I agree with some of the points that you have made, especially with the Olympics. Siasia made it clear that Daniel was his starting goalie going into the Olympics. That Akpeyi got invited at all was based on a very poor game Daniel had at a tourney in Asia. A disappointed Siasia made it clear then that he felt the lack of competition for Daniel's position was the reason and he vowed to invite a veteran goalie to force Daniel to perform better. Enter Akpeyi. That was the situation going into the Olympics.

Gotti was incorrect with the claim that Akpeyi has played 6 games for SE. He actually has played in 10 but as someone pointed out Akpeyi has not been outstanding in several of them after his outstanding debut against South Africa in 2015. You certainly should be able to use 10 games in statistically analysis. The statistical rule that you point to has to be used contextually. The point you make with the minimum of 30 games makes sense when the universe is way above 100. However, in appearances for Nigeria, I bet less than 10% of Nigerian players (who have appeared for the country) have ever played 30 games.

In my view, Akpeyi is a good goalie but for some strange reason(s) he has not played up to his potential for Nigeria. I can see him losing his spot on the NT in the coming weeks or months. That is just my tuppence.

E11
Thanks chief , balanced insightful post as usual

Per the statistics thing what I was making reference to is the CLT which states thus

In general, it is said that Central Limit Theorem “kicks in” at an N of about 30. In other words, as long as the sample is based on 30 or more observations, the sampling distribution of the mean can be safely assumed to be normal.

Point I was making was that trying to model a goalkeepers propensity for error would require a distribution like the Poisson distribution or its cousin the exponential distribution which deal with modeling time between random occurrences or the frequency of random occurrences within a Given time frame

These distributions best reflect a goalies propensity for error because a goalie can go an entire season without errors and then make multiple errors in the same game like Karius did hence the reason why per the CLT you need at least 30 observations to be able to make Any meaningful inference based on the Normal Gaussian distribution

I do agree that few players have 30 games In the NT and no NT coach has 30 games to spare to test a players capabilities but to the degree that a players overall propensity for errors is made subject to any kind of serious statistical testing as Gotti attempts to do then you would have to include his larger body of work outside the NT in order to get to an adequate sample size . That was my point

Best Regards

[Gotti]

Ba turenchi!

Some folks just love to engage in long-winded pedantry (and BAP has made a virtual art of it here on CE), and yet ultimately acknowledge the REALITY that has been starring them in the face all along. Thus, it has apparently taken EII statistics jargon to get BAP to the same point that I had succinctly made previously - to wit, some GKs are capable of (and/or prone to), both the spectacular save and the spectacular flop within minutes of each other, and some players can be very good at club level but fail to transfer same form to the national team. Hopefully, dude is paid by the word in his profession. LMAO!

[BAP]

Ba turenchi!

Some folks just love to engage in long-winded pedantry (and BAP has made a virtual art of it here on CE), and yet ultimately acknowledge the REALITY that has been starring them in the face all along. Thus, it has apparently taken EII statistics jargon to get BAP to the same point that I had succinctly made previously - to wit, some GKs are capable of (and/or prone to), both the spectacular save and the spectacular flop within minutes of each other, and some players can be very good at club level but fail to transfer same form to the national team. Hopefully, dude is paid by the word in his profession. LMAO!

Long winded pedantry eh
Bap -1864 posts
Gotti-28880 posts

Let the stats speak for themselves as to who is more given to endless bloviating while utilizing vacuous big grammar and unnecessary aggression to cover the emptiness and sometimes outright fraudulence of his positions.

[imehjunior]

Saw highlight of their game this weekend where they won 3-2, the goals he conceded would have been saved by an averagely good keeper.

[Gotti]

Long winded pedantry eh
Bap -1864 posts
Gotti-28880 posts

Let the stats speak for themselves as to who is more given to endless bloviating while utilizing vacuous big grammar and unnecessary aggression to cover the emptiness and sometimes outright fraudulence of his positions.

Confusion Don Break Bone...
What has number posts to do with the length (or pedantry) of each post? Turenchied stats.

[Gotti]

Saw highlight of their game this weekend where they won 3-2, the goals he conceded would have been saved by an averagely good keeper.

Don’t let BAP catch you o....