Two Years Ago, Man United defeated Ajax and won the EL

[cic old boy]

Just so everyone is clear, this thread is really about Mourinho.

I don't know how otherwise intelligent people think it's purely about football. Ajax had a crap coach (Peter Bosz) when they were defeated by Manure (still outplayed Manure). They sacked him and moved on in leaps and bounds. He went to Dortmund and was sacked too, after 7 months. The real story is that both crap coaches in that Europa final were sacked. Both teams have improved since they sacked their coaches.

[danfo driver]

Just so everyone is clear, this thread is really about Mourinho.

I don't know how otherwise intelligent people think it's purely about football. Ajax had a crap coach (Peter Bosz) when they were defeated by Manure (still outplayed Manure). They sacked him and moved on in leaps and bounds. He went to Dortmund and was sacked too, after 7 months. The real story is that both crap coaches in that Europa final were sacked. Both teams have improved since they sacked their coaches.

Hmmm.. I disagree with you. Peter Bosz was not crap. What I think is that he is a complicated coach, who likes to do things in a complicated way.

Dont forget he was at Ajax for one season. And In that season, he came second (only finising the season 1 point behind the champions) and took them to the Europa League final, where (in my opinion) they performed better than United, but lost. His performance at Ajax that season was very good and Dortmund made him an offer. In fact, I had to look for this article I read back then, when he was likened to Crujff:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... opa-league

Your opinion that Ajax sacked him is factually inaccurate and a gross misrepresentation of the facts, because he resigned from that position in order to accept Dortmund's offer.

Your opinion that Ajax moved on in leaps and bounds after Bosz left, is also incorrect because after Bosz resigned, Van Der Saar replaced Bosz with Bergkamp's friend, Marcel Keizer. Keizer wasnt particularly bad, but he wasnt hitting the heights they expected and there were lots of problems behind the scenes. Overmars then forced Van Der Saar to get rid of bergkamp and his friend. Thereafter, Overmars insisted on the hiring of Ten Hag in January of 2018.

In regards to Bosz at Dortmund, he was a disaster! He allowed his complicated football get in the way of simplicity. He was then fired, as you rightly mentioned.

However, since then, he has returned to the Bundesliga in January 2019. They were in tatters and since he has come in, he has been able to push them up. In his article below, he admitted his mistakes at Dortmund and promised to change:

https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bundeslig ... -2818-1351

For his own sake, I hope he has learned his lesson. He is a good coach, he just has to simplify things a bit and he will be fine.

[Eaglezbeak]

Thanks Danfo for unearthing the next Chelsea coach - Ten Hag.

(I am assuming Roman visits this site.)

I saw some of Ajax plays and my comment was "The Sarriball that never was".

Chelsea will sack him if he fails to win the Premier League or Champions League in his first season, he'll inherit a bunch of players that want to leave Chelsea but cant as no one wants to pay them more than they are currently earning at Chelsea where they haven't performed lately despite their big names!

[marko]

Ajax have come a long way, sometimes it takes years to get things right, if you ditch the club principles, even longer, stick to the principles, then just a matter of time, what impresses me about Ajax? academy players and yes there are plenty of them in that first team!

[metalalloy]

Just so everyone is clear, this thread is really about Mourinho.

[balo]

Thanks Danfo for unearthing the next Chelsea coach - Ten Hag.

(I am assuming Roman visits this site.)

I saw some of Ajax plays and my comment was "The Sarriball that never was".

Chelsea will sack him if he fails to win the Premier League or Champions League in his first season, he'll inherit a bunch of players that want to leave Chelsea but cant as no one wants to pay them more than they are currently earning at Chelsea where they haven't performed lately despite their big names!

And that's fine. If a coach blows hot and cold while losing the essence of the club, I support that the coach be sacked.
Coaches at big or relatively big clubs earn way too much money to not deliver.

[danfo driver]

Thanks Danfo for unearthing the next Chelsea coach - Ten Hag.

(I am assuming Roman visits this site.)

I saw some of Ajax plays and my comment was "The Sarriball that never was".

Chelsea will sack him if he fails to win the Premier League or Champions League in his first season, he'll inherit a bunch of players that want to leave Chelsea but cant as no one wants to pay them more than they are currently earning at Chelsea where they haven't performed lately despite their big names!

And that's fine. If a coach blows hot and cold while losing the essence of the club, I support that the coach be sacked.
Coaches at big or relatively big clubs earn way too much money to not deliver.

Chelsea claims it wants stability, but I don't think, deep down, they do. Chelsea and their fans love the idea, but they do not have the patience.

[danfo driver]

Just so everyone is clear, this thread is really about Mourinho.

I don't know how otherwise intelligent people think it's purely about football. Ajax had a crap coach (Peter Bosz) when they were defeated by Manure (still outplayed Manure). They sacked him and moved on in leaps and bounds. He went to Dortmund and was sacked too, after 7 months. The real story is that both crap coaches in that Europa final were sacked. Both teams have improved since they sacked their coaches.

Enugu Linda, Are you watching what Bosz has done at Leverkusen? A blogger like you shouldnt be shooting your mouth. instead, you should educate yourself, first. Okay, pumpkin?