Kelechi Nwakali; They warned me not to come to Nigeria
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Kelechi Nwakali; They warned me not to come to Nigeria
One month after honouring the call to play for the Dream Team VII in their crucial AFCON U-23 second round qualifying match against Libya, the team’s assistant captain, Kelechi Nwakali is still stranded in Nigeria, AOIFootball.com reported.
“I’m very worried about the current situation of things. I should have returned to my club and started playing already and also getting set for next season, but my decision to honour the game against Libya has put me in this situation, which is becoming very troublesome for me.
“I told the coaches before coming that my going back to Portugal might be difficult because I don’t have a resident permit in England and I was also not given one in Portugal, so it had really complicated things for me,” a frustrated Nwakali lamented.
He went further to reiterate that the situation had now made him make up his mind on a permanent stay in Arsenal next season or move away from the club to avoid being shipped on loan for another season.
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“I’m very worried about the current situation of things. I should have returned to my club and started playing already and also getting set for next season, but my decision to honour the game against Libya has put me in this situation, which is becoming very troublesome for me.
“I told the coaches before coming that my going back to Portugal might be difficult because I don’t have a resident permit in England and I was also not given one in Portugal, so it had really complicated things for me,” a frustrated Nwakali lamented.
He went further to reiterate that the situation had now made him make up his mind on a permanent stay in Arsenal next season or move away from the club to avoid being shipped on loan for another season.
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So he can’t get a visa back to Portugal or England ? Who are the people managing this boy? He seems to always be in the wrong place.
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Na wa, you never leave until you've secured your passage back, hopefully this boy can get back soon.
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Doesn't sound right. He has a work permit but doesn't have a residence permit?
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EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:So he can’t get a visa back to Portugal or England ? Who are the people managing this boy? He seems to always be in the wrong place.
You can’t simply apply for any kind of visa. Nwakali is going to Portugal to work, so he can only apply for one type of visa — an employment visa. Perhaps the one he had expired and it’s being renewed. With a valid work permit, he can continue to work in Portugal while his visa is being renewed. However, you can’t travel abroad. Since he has travelled abroad, even if his work permit is valid, he needs a valid visa to enter.
Nwakali and the NFF should have been more responsible in this situation. That’s why we have a welfare officer. The player should not have been invited for the game.
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Surely he can get a visitors visa and if he has applied before the expiry of his work permit for a renewal, he should be able to continue to play for his club.
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We need to up our game small Portugal should be visa free to giant of Africa,i bet a Portugal citizen will not remain in Porto if he was to fly back to Abuja to work.
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Get a visitor's visa when you have a work permit?DIMKA76 wrote:Surely he can get a visitors visa and if he has applied before the expiry of his work permit for a renewal, he should be able to continue to play for his club.
Continue to play for your club (work in that country) on a visitor's visa?
Good luck!
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If his intent is to go work, I highly doubt he will be given a visitor's visa. This is not Nigeria.DIMKA76 wrote:Surely he can get a visitors visa and if he has applied before the expiry of his work permit for a renewal, he should be able to continue to play for his club.
Very stupid thing he did.
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Naa this must be a late april fool joke.. in this day and age smh.
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Its not o, I've been wondering why he's been posting only pics from Naija lately...Siddonlook11 wrote:Naa this must be a late april fool joke.. in this day and age smh.
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If this true then he needs to sack his agent!
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But he has enough phone and computer skills to post pictures ? He cant do basic stuff for himself ?Eaglezbeak wrote:If this true then he needs to sack his agent!
Not in this day an age people need to do better ..I pray he can sort this out on time and this will not blight his career.
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What has posting pictures got to do with getting a visa?Siddonlook11 wrote:But he has enough phone and computer skills to post pictures ? He cant do basic stuff for himself ?Eaglezbeak wrote:If this true then he needs to sack his agent!
Not in this day an age people need to do better ..I pray he can sort this out on time and this will not blight his career.
It seems a lot of grandpas on CE have a problem with the youngsters posting pictures on their own SM pages (as if it is by force to go look at them), but these are the sort of issues that either his club or preferably the NFF should have taken the lead on - particularly given that he forewarned them of the possible consequences of honoring a national call to duty.
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Ok let me explain the logic. If as stated he does have a work permit which has now expired, then these would be his options. In European countries, if you apply for Leave before the expiry of the previous one then it is assumed those leave conditions continue pending the outcome of your new application. If he applied late then it means he has no leave and previous leave conditions are null and void.danfo driver wrote:Get a visitor's visa when you have a work permit?DIMKA76 wrote:Surely he can get a visitors visa and if he has applied before the expiry of his work permit for a renewal, he should be able to continue to play for his club.
Continue to play for your club (work in that country) on a visitor's visa?
Good luck!
So there are gaps in the story.
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I am not privy to any other information that was not posted on here. In fact, I didnt even click on the link. So, I cannot speak directly to his matter.DIMKA76 wrote:Ok let me explain the logic. If as stated he does have a work permit which has now expired, then these would be his options. In European countries, if you apply for Leave before the expiry of the previous one then it is assumed those leave conditions continue pending the outcome of your new application. If he applied late then it means he has no leave and previous leave conditions are null and void.danfo driver wrote:Get a visitor's visa when you have a work permit?DIMKA76 wrote:Surely he can get a visitors visa and if he has applied before the expiry of his work permit for a renewal, he should be able to continue to play for his club.
Continue to play for your club (work in that country) on a visitor's visa?
Good luck!
So there are gaps in the story.
However, and I may be wrong, in some countries, it is possible for your work permit to be valid, but your visa expire. So, for instance, you can have a work permit and visa that is both 2 years. Then at the expiration of your work permit, you send in the paperwork to extend it. But you do not need to travel, so you didnt go to the embassy (in your home country) to get a stamp (visa) on your passport. Now, when you want to travel, your work permit is valid; however, your visa has expired because you did not go to the embassy (in your home country) to get a stamp. You will now have to apply for the stamp and then when you are invited for an interview at the embassy, you will travel to your home country and get it stamped there.
I want you to separate "work permit" from "visa." While they come hand in hand, they are actually two separate documents. One is a document you receive from the home office (department of state or in the US, its called USCIS) giving you the right to work, while the other is a stamp which enables you to travel in and out of the country where you work.
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All depends on the country the applicant resides in.danfo driver wrote:I am not privy to any other information that was not posted on here. In fact, I didnt even click on the link. So, I cannot speak directly to his matter.DIMKA76 wrote:Ok let me explain the logic. If as stated he does have a work permit which has now expired, then these would be his options. In European countries, if you apply for Leave before the expiry of the previous one then it is assumed those leave conditions continue pending the outcome of your new application. If he applied late then it means he has no leave and previous leave conditions are null and void.danfo driver wrote:Get a visitor's visa when you have a work permit?DIMKA76 wrote:Surely he can get a visitors visa and if he has applied before the expiry of his work permit for a renewal, he should be able to continue to play for his club.
Continue to play for your club (work in that country) on a visitor's visa?
Good luck!
So there are gaps in the story.
However, and I may be wrong, in some countries, it is possible for your work permit to be valid, but your visa expire. So, for instance, you can have a work permit and visa that is both 2 years. Then at the expiration of your work permit, you send in the paperwork to extend it. But you do not need to travel, so you didnt go to the embassy (in your home country) to get a stamp (visa) on your passport. Now, when you want to travel, your work permit is valid; however, your visa has expired because you did not go to the embassy (in your home country) to get a stamp. You will now have to apply for the stamp and then when you are invited for an interview at the embassy, you will travel to your home country and get it stamped there.
I want you to separate "work permit" from "visa." While they come hand in hand, they are actually two separate documents. One is a document you receive from the home office (department of state or in the US, its called USCIS) giving you the right to work, while the other is a stamp which enables you to travel in and out of the country where you work.
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I'll say it depends on the company, because there is no country in this world where you are permitted to work with a tourist visa. Even in Nigeria, if the company is a legitimate company, a foreigner cannot work there without an employment visa. I know this for a fact.DIMKA76 wrote:All depends on the country the applicant resides in.danfo driver wrote:I am not privy to any other information that was not posted on here. In fact, I didnt even click on the link. So, I cannot speak directly to his matter.DIMKA76 wrote:Ok let me explain the logic. If as stated he does have a work permit which has now expired, then these would be his options. In European countries, if you apply for Leave before the expiry of the previous one then it is assumed those leave conditions continue pending the outcome of your new application. If he applied late then it means he has no leave and previous leave conditions are null and void.danfo driver wrote:Get a visitor's visa when you have a work permit?DIMKA76 wrote:Surely he can get a visitors visa and if he has applied before the expiry of his work permit for a renewal, he should be able to continue to play for his club.
Continue to play for your club (work in that country) on a visitor's visa?
Good luck!
So there are gaps in the story.
However, and I may be wrong, in some countries, it is possible for your work permit to be valid, but your visa expire. So, for instance, you can have a work permit and visa that is both 2 years. Then at the expiration of your work permit, you send in the paperwork to extend it. But you do not need to travel, so you didnt go to the embassy (in your home country) to get a stamp (visa) on your passport. Now, when you want to travel, your work permit is valid; however, your visa has expired because you did not go to the embassy (in your home country) to get a stamp. You will now have to apply for the stamp and then when you are invited for an interview at the embassy, you will travel to your home country and get it stamped there.
I want you to separate "work permit" from "visa." While they come hand in hand, they are actually two separate documents. One is a document you receive from the home office (department of state or in the US, its called USCIS) giving you the right to work, while the other is a stamp which enables you to travel in and out of the country where you work.
So, if you think Porto is going to risk their regulatory standing with the Portuguese government to make a random b-team player happy, then you have got a shock coming your way.
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Lol..let me spell it out, he is tech savvy enough to post pictures ..means he is tech savvy enough to use technology to search for help and do the basic mundane research, this culture of always blaming/wanting others to be accountable is killing our young peoples minds.Gotti wrote:What has posting pictures got to do with getting a visa?Siddonlook11 wrote:But he has enough phone and computer skills to post pictures ? He cant do basic stuff for himself ?Eaglezbeak wrote:If this true then he needs to sack his agent!
Not in this day an age people need to do better ..I pray he can sort this out on time and this will not blight his career.
It seems a lot of grandpas on CE have a problem with the youngsters posting pictures on their own SM pages (as if it is by force to go look at them), but these are the sort of issues that either his club or preferably the NFF should have taken the lead on - particularly given that he forewarned them of the possible consequences of honoring a national call to duty.
Even that agent or club laison was likely a phone call away from this ...
I like the granpa reference I pray i live that long. although I am sure you senoir me wella wella heheheh.
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I think you totally misconstrue my point. I made the suggestion that he gets a visitor visa in the possibility he made an application for a work permit before it expired. I did not say he could work on a visitor visa - Just a means of entry as the existing conditions would continue on the proviso he made an application for renewal of his work permit before it expired - Meaning he would be deemed to have a permit to work as it would be an in-time application until the outcome of his application.danfo driver wrote:I'll say it depends on the company, because there is no country in this world where you are permitted to work with a tourist visa. Even in Nigeria, if the company is a legitimate company, a foreigner cannot work there without an employment visa. I know this for a fact.DIMKA76 wrote:All depends on the country the applicant resides in.danfo driver wrote:I am not privy to any other information that was not posted on here. In fact, I didnt even click on the link. So, I cannot speak directly to his matter.DIMKA76 wrote:Ok let me explain the logic. If as stated he does have a work permit which has now expired, then these would be his options. In European countries, if you apply for Leave before the expiry of the previous one then it is assumed those leave conditions continue pending the outcome of your new application. If he applied late then it means he has no leave and previous leave conditions are null and void.danfo driver wrote:Get a visitor's visa when you have a work permit?DIMKA76 wrote:Surely he can get a visitors visa and if he has applied before the expiry of his work permit for a renewal, he should be able to continue to play for his club.
Continue to play for your club (work in that country) on a visitor's visa?
Good luck!
So there are gaps in the story.
However, and I may be wrong, in some countries, it is possible for your work permit to be valid, but your visa expire. So, for instance, you can have a work permit and visa that is both 2 years. Then at the expiration of your work permit, you send in the paperwork to extend it. But you do not need to travel, so you didnt go to the embassy (in your home country) to get a stamp (visa) on your passport. Now, when you want to travel, your work permit is valid; however, your visa has expired because you did not go to the embassy (in your home country) to get a stamp. You will now have to apply for the stamp and then when you are invited for an interview at the embassy, you will travel to your home country and get it stamped there.
I want you to separate "work permit" from "visa." While they come hand in hand, they are actually two separate documents. One is a document you receive from the home office (department of state or in the US, its called USCIS) giving you the right to work, while the other is a stamp which enables you to travel in and out of the country where you work.
So, if you think Porto is going to risk their regulatory standing with the Portuguese government to make a random b-team player happy, then you have got a shock coming your way.
The offer of employment is made by his club. In such circumstance, they should be the ones making the moves on his behalf with their Immigration authorities.
Most companies keep a keen eye on would be expatriates visa and work permit status. As we both agree, there are gaps to be filled in his true circs.
In some European countries, the work permit is in itself linked with the working visa - So for instance, if the employee changes employer - changes profession - it becomes invalid.
I would guess footballers come under the Highly skilled (Young and prodigious talent) or entertainer schemes in many Western countries
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Said young person had apparently already done his “basic mundane research” and duly informed the relevant authorities what would likely happen if he honored the national call. Did you miss that?Siddonlook11 wrote:Lol..let me spell it out, he is tech savvy enough to post pictures ..means he is tech savvy enough to use technology to search for help and do the basic mundane research, this culture of always blaming/wanting others to be accountable is killing our young peoples minds.
Even that agent or club laison was likely a phone call away from this ...
I like the granpa reference I pray i live that long. although I am sure you senoir me wella wella heheheh.
Meanwhile, not privy to the process in Portugal but usually the employer should be the entity handling his work permit application. Nonetheless, if Nigeria called him up for national duty and he duly informed them of the situation then Nigerian officials should ensure that they work with whomever they need to resolve the issues. If he refuses to honor a national call-up next time, many of you CE grandpas would be castigating him and/or leading the call for his head (a la Mikel, Moses, etc.).
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