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Another Look at That Corner Kick Arc

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 11:07 pm
by Bell
Seen a corner kick lately? Then you'd see that the ball is now placed totally outside the arc with the ridiculous argument that if any part of the ball projects down to any part of the arc, it's legit. With that argument, PK takers could move the ball several inches fwd beyond the spot where it is now placed.

I say, if this continues, take the discretion away from the players and define a spot in the corner kick arc where the ball must be placed. And maybe they can do something about that CK post that seems to get in the way. It should improve the shot and maybe, legitimately, result in more goals.
Bell

Re: Another Look at That Corner Kick Arc

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 2:12 am
by Rawlings
Oga,
One is an arc and the other is a spot...

Re: Another Look at That Corner Kick Arc

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 5:02 am
by EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA
Rawlings wrote:Oga,
One is an arc and the other is a spot...
Ol boy, inside a spot you'll find an arc. They no teach geometry at Kumasi comprehensive primary school?

Re: Another Look at That Corner Kick Arc

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 5:27 am
by ANC
EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:
Rawlings wrote:Oga,
One is an arc and the other is a spot...
Ol boy, inside a spot you'll find an arc. They no teach geometry at Kumasi comprehensive primary school?

Tema harbor was where he got his formative training, who dash'am primary school.

Re: Another Look at That Corner Kick Arc

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 6:49 am
by Bell
Rawlings wrote:Oga,
One is an arc and the other is a spot...

OK, SO...


1) Get rid of the arc and place a spot at the intersection of the touchline and goal line, or
2) Place a spot somewhere within the arc

The discretion has been abused to the point of making it a joke so take it away from the player.
Bell

Re: Another Look at That Corner Kick Arc

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:06 am
by Damunk
Bell wrote:Seen a corner kick lately? Then you'd see that the ball is now placed totally outside the arc with the ridiculous argument that if any part of the ball projects down to any part of the arc, it's legit. With that argument, PK takers could move the ball several inches fwd beyond the spot where it is now placed.

I say, if this continues, take the discretion away from the players and define a spot in the corner kick arc where the ball must be placed. And maybe they can do something about that CK post that seems to get in the way. It should improve the shot and maybe, legitimately, result in more goals.
Bell
Its been that way for a while now but I have never quite understood it.
The only rationale I can think of is that the corner flag possibly restricts the swing of the foot of the kicker if the ball is placed within the arc. They can't do away with the corner flag and don't wish to increase the size of the arc.

The penalty spot has no such impediments.

Re: Another Look at That Corner Kick Arc

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 10:06 am
by pajimoh
Damunk wrote:
Bell wrote:Seen a corner kick lately? Then you'd see that the ball is now placed totally outside the arc with the ridiculous argument that if any part of the ball projects down to any part of the arc, it's legit. With that argument, PK takers could move the ball several inches fwd beyond the spot where it is now placed.

I say, if this continues, take the discretion away from the players and define a spot in the corner kick arc where the ball must be placed. And maybe they can do something about that CK post that seems to get in the way. It should improve the shot and maybe, legitimately, result in more goals.
Bell
Its been that way for a while now but I have never quite understood it.
The only rationale I can think of is that the corner flag possibly restricts the swing of the foot of the kicker if the ball is placed within the arc. They can't do away with the corner flag and don't wish to increase the size of the arc.

The penalty spot has no such impediments.
Logical. Plus the fact that one cannot see any advantage derived from placing the ball in the arc or on the line other than to try and avoid the obstructing corner flag. The flag wasn't place their to be a restriction to the players

Re: Another Look at That Corner Kick Arc

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 1:24 pm
by tfco
ANC wrote:
EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:
Rawlings wrote:Oga,
One is an arc and the other is a spot...
Ol boy, inside a spot you'll find an arc. They no teach geometry at Kumasi comprehensive primary school?

Tema harbor was were he got his formative training, who dash'am primary school.
pot...kettle

Re: Another Look at That Corner Kick Arc

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 6:28 pm
by balo
I often wondered what difference it makes placing the ball inside the arc versus the ball outside of it but touching the line of the arc.

The players must be gaining some individual psychological accomplishment with the ball outside the arc. It looks like the norm now. Sometimes, the arc doesn't even exist until the ref called their attention to it.

Re: Another Look at That Corner Kick Arc

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 10:13 am
by Aswani
balo wrote:I often wondered what difference it makes placing the ball inside the arc versus the ball outside of it but touching the line of the arc.

The players must be gaining some individual psychological accomplishment with the ball outside the arc. It looks like the norm now. Sometimes, the arc doesn't even exist until the ref called their attention to it.
The match I went to watch last month, the players were placing the ball down with ball not touching any part of the arc and the linesman was standing right behind the player and did nothing. This was lower league at Whaddon Road though were there is hardly any space between corner and stand for a run up.

Re: Another Look at That Corner Kick Arc

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 3:37 pm
by wiseone
That is one of my pet peeves about modern corners. Sometimes you see players place the ball totally outside the arc (when they are taking corners from the opposite side to where the lino is standing). I do not buy the BS argument that they do it because the corner flag restricts their run up or kicking leg. Corner technique and accuracy has gone to the dogs in modern football. People like Becks, Pirlo, and Del Piero used to whip corners in with pinpoint accuracy - with the ball in the middle of the arc. How come the corner flag did not obstruct them?
Bell wrote:Seen a corner kick lately? Then you'd see that the ball is now placed totally outside the arc with the ridiculous argument that if any part of the ball projects down to any part of the arc, it's legit. With that argument, PK takers could move the ball several inches fwd beyond the spot where it is now placed.

I say, if this continues, take the discretion away from the players and define a spot in the corner kick arc where the ball must be placed. And maybe they can do something about that CK post that seems to get in the way. It should improve the shot and maybe, legitimately, result in more goals.
Bell

Re: Another Look at That Corner Kick Arc

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 9:09 pm
by Thunder
Football will then need linesmen in the 4 quadrants of the field, as the cheating is pervasive absent a ref near the corner flags.

Re: Another Look at That Corner Kick Arc

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 9:29 pm
by wiseone
...or use VAR to monitor and force players to place the ball in the arc before taking a corner.
Thunder wrote:Football will then need linesmen in the 4 quadrants of the field, as the cheating is pervasive absent a ref near the corner flags.

Re: Another Look at That Corner Kick Arc

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 11:47 pm
by mcal
balo wrote:I often wondered what difference it makes placing the ball inside the arc versus the ball outside of it but touching the line of the arc.

The players must be gaining some individual psychological accomplishment with the ball outside the arc. It looks like the norm now. Sometimes, the arc doesn't even exist until the ref called their attention to it.
...there is no difference.
A cheat will cheat, just like a habitual crook will still commit the crime no matter how small, insignificant what he wanted is.
I believe it is in their mind to do that to gain an advantage, but what advantage.
Just like players that move the ball inches forward for a free kick far up the field.
If you are an adult you should have the legs to whip a ball down range. Low moral.

Re: Another Look at That Corner Kick Arc

Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 3:20 am
by balo
mcal wrote:
balo wrote:I often wondered what difference it makes placing the ball inside the arc versus the ball outside of it but touching the line of the arc.

The players must be gaining some individual psychological accomplishment with the ball outside the arc. It looks like the norm now. Sometimes, the arc doesn't even exist until the ref called their attention to it.
...there is no difference.
A cheat will cheat, just like a habitual crook will still commit the crime no matter how small, insignificant what he wanted is.
I believe it is in their mind to do that to gain an advantage, but what advantage.
Just like players that move the ball inches forward for a free kick far up the field.
If you are an adult you should have the legs to whip a ball down range. Low moral.
Absolutely.

Re: Another Look at That Corner Kick Arc

Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 4:02 am
by ANC
tfco wrote:
ANC wrote:
EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:
Rawlings wrote:Oga,
One is an arc and the other is a spot...
Ol boy, inside a spot you'll find an arc. They no teach geometry at Kumasi comprehensive primary school?

Tema harbor was were he got his formative training, who dash'am primary school.
pot...kettle

My dear human spell checker, FYI, it is called a typo.

Re: Another Look at That Corner Kick Arc

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 7:40 am
by Cristao II
I personally see it as cheating..