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Re: Diego Forlan and Kelechi Iheanacho

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:19 pm
by danfo driver
Eaglezbeak wrote:
danfo driver wrote:
Eaglezbeak wrote:
danfo driver wrote:
Eaglezbeak wrote:
danfo driver wrote:If Iheanacho has the opportunity (financial and clubwise) to head to Italy or Germany, he should grab it with both hands. He will be tearing the net in both leagues. Unfortunately, i do not believe any club in both countries will give him the same financial package as Leicester. But who knows?!

I wouldnt suggest Spain, honestly.
If he wants to play at a high level then it’s Spain or Germany but if it’s money he wants then he can go to China or join Captain Musa in the desert!
Italy is a very high level. Juventus has proven that in the last 3-4 years in CL. Milan and Inter are rejuvenated. Napoli humiliated themselves this year in Europe, but they are up there. Then you have Roma and Lazio. Even the likes of Atalanta (they have scored the most goals in Italy and I think top 5 in Europe) are fighting for CL.

Spain is difficult for him because the misconception that "you have space in Spain," is pretty much what it is-- a misconception. In Spain, even the tiny teams press! I just dont see his style of play as the type that will do very well in Spain.
They only way you’re getting payed more than a Premiership club in Italy is if you are one of the top earners at Juventus, I doubt it Juventus want Kelechi!
But if it’s about football I agree Italian football is of a high standard but he might have to take a pay cut!
maybe, maybe not. A good lawyer/agenty should be able to negotiate it in a way where he gets paid his money that Leicester still owe him. Almost like a pay off in order to get rid of him. For instance when Alexis Sanchez leaves United, do you think he will take a "pay cut?" Nope! United will pay him off to get rid of him.
Maybe so but Who’s looking into buying Kelechi?How long has he got left on his contract?
I have no idea.

Re: Diego Forlan and Kelechi Iheanacho

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:28 pm
by ohenhen1
Kelechi should look into going to France or Spain for his next destination. He should hand in a transfer request. Nigeria forwards should stay away from Leicester FC.

Re: Diego Forlan and Kelechi Iheanacho

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 10:19 pm
by Rawlings
ohenhen1 wrote:Kelechi should look into going to France or Spain for his next destination. He should hand in a transfer request. Nigeria forwards should stay away from Leicester FC.
China a la ighalo or Saudi a la Musa will suit him best

Re: Diego Forlan and Kelechi Iheanacho

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 10:52 pm
by Amen
It is amazing how a young man in his early twenties... who gets very well paid for what he loves, has represented his nation in conquering the world, a household name in parts of the country that established the game.. is considered a failure or someone who "did not make good use of his talent". His mates playing set on some obscure fields nko?

Re: Diego Forlan and Kelechi Iheanacho

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 6:37 am
by john12
It’s funny how the likes of amokachi, yekini, kanu, okocha, amunike, finidi, Moses all played at 2 or 3 World Cups and MUSA still outnumbered them by his performance. Yet, someone is saying Musa isn’t good enough for SE level. If MUSA based on his performance for SE at 2 World Cups isn’t good enough for SE then no one good enough. Musa is only denigrated and disparaged because of his Tribe and there nothing more to add

Re: Diego Forlan and Kelechi Iheanacho

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 2:15 pm
by danfo driver
john12 wrote:It’s funny how the likes of amokachi, yekini, kanu, okocha, amunike, finidi, Moses all played at 2 or 3 World Cups and MUSA still outnumbered them by his performance. Yet, someone is saying Musa isn’t good enough for SE level. If MUSA based on his performance for SE at 2 World Cups isn’t good enough for SE then no one good enough. Musa is only denigrated and disparaged because of his Tribe and there nothing more to add
Then, please, add nothing. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Diego Forlan and Kelechi Iheanacho

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 3:03 pm
by maceo4
john12 wrote:It’s funny how the likes of amokachi, yekini, kanu, okocha, amunike, finidi, Moses all played at 2 or 3 World Cups and MUSA still outnumbered them by his performance. Yet, someone is saying Musa isn’t good enough for SE level. If MUSA based on his performance for SE at 2 World Cups isn’t good enough for SE then no one good enough. Musa is only denigrated and disparaged because of his Tribe and there nothing more to add
What are you going on about? Musa failed at Leicester, even he will tell you that, its why he left and went back to Russia and then off to Saudi. Haba, why are you bringing up World Cup (a tournament where he played 3 or 4 games) when we are talking about Leicester (a club seasons of over 38 games)? Some players don't fit certain teams/leagues, but unlike Musa we have seen Kelechi play well in the EPL so there is empirical evidence he CAN possibly play well again in the EPL given the right team. Musa hot tailed it out of the EPL as it wasn't going well, so we don't know if the EPL is a right fit for him, we just know it didn't work out for him when he tried it.

Re: Diego Forlan and Kelechi Iheanacho

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 3:11 pm
by john12
Musa failed at Leicester just like Iheanacho, slimani, kramaric, Forlan at (man it’d) veron, etc like many other great players but to say epl is above his level when he has shown competency at World Cup is ignorant. I will say this, Musa is as good as anyone for SE when used correctly (9) but when you play him as a right winger, that’s where there’s a problem. Say no to tribalism joor

Re: Diego Forlan and Kelechi Iheanacho

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 3:45 pm
by danfo driver
john12 wrote:Musa failed at Leicester just like Iheanacho, slimani, kramaric, Forlan at (man it’d) veron, etc like many other great players but to say epl is above his level when he has shown competency at World Cup is ignorant. I will say this, Musa is as good as anyone for SE when used correctly (9) but when you play him as a right winger, that’s where there’s a problem. Say no to tribalism joor
I thought you said there was nothing more to add? :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

Re: Diego Forlan and Kelechi Iheanacho

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 4:48 pm
by maceo4
john12 wrote:Musa failed at Leicester just like Iheanacho, slimani, kramaric, Forlan at (man it’d) veron, etc like many other great players but to say epl is above his level when he has shown competency at World Cup is ignorant. I will say this, Musa is as good as anyone for SE when used correctly (9) but when you play him as a right winger, that’s where there’s a problem. Say no to tribalism joor
Who knows if its above his level, but the fact remains that the ONLY top 5 league Musa played in is the EPL AND he failed there. The likes of Forlan proved themselves in OTHER top 5 leagues while Musa took the retirement route rather than PROVING he can hack it in a top 5 league. So there is no way you can be sure about that, regardless of what he did in 2 games at the World Cup!!!!! You are basically extrapolating effectiveness in an entire club season (38+ games) based on twice having 1 good game in a tournament. The thing is Musa did have at least 1 or 2 good games for Leicester, but was overall a failure in the entire 38+ games SEASON! Even look at his tally now in the Saudi Arabia league, 7 goals in 23 league games, what do you call that? A successful season for a striker? He's simply not someone you can rely on for consistent goals, and consistency is key in league games, not one off games, but you can repeat this feat consistently over the course of a season. Kele has show he could do that in the 1.5/2 seasons he had at City, so hopefully he can regain that at a decent level in another club in or outside of the EPL. Just stop being so hurt whenever someone mentions Musa, jeeez.

Re: Diego Forlan and Kelechi Iheanacho

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 11:08 pm
by Lager-back
Kelechi AFC recently met with Kele at the parking lot.

Re: Diego Forlan and Kelechi Iheanacho

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 1:49 am
by john12
Nothing more to add in reference to what I have said earlier. Musa is still Nigerian forward (GOAT) any tribalism that says otherwise is just hating

Re: Diego Forlan and Kelechi Iheanacho

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 2:12 am
by Bigpokey24
Lager-back wrote:Kelechi AFC recently met with Kele at the parking lot.
Who be afc

Re: Diego Forlan and Kelechi Iheanacho

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 3:38 pm
by wiseone
Kele would probably score loads of goals in Holland or France where the game is slower and less physical.

Re: Diego Forlan and Kelechi Iheanacho

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 8:37 pm
by green4life
txj wrote:
Damunk wrote:
danfo driver wrote:If Iheanacho has the opportunity (financial and clubwise) to head to Italy or Germany, he should grab it with both hands. He will be tearing the net in both leagues. Unfortunately, i do not believe any club in both countries will give him the same financial package as Leicester. But who knows?!

I wouldnt suggest Spain, honestly.
Okay, let's play the Devil's Advocate here.
All sentments aside.... where does this unshakeable belief in Kelechi actually come from?
His U17 youth days?
His brief spell at 'City?
His SE outings?

I ask because I used to be one of his greatest fans (check out my numerous postings on the kid) but I am struggling to keep the faith.

I have always said he is a 'confidence' player, a 'young' player, even a 'misused player' but there are only so many excuses one can give.

I want him to do well but are we hoping on feelings rather than fact?
Just curious - and not a little frustrated.

Two things, in my personal opinion:

1. He lacks professional ambition
2. He is of average football intelligence in that he doesn't learn quickly and appears not to retain what he's learnt.
I agree with you on #1 but with respect to #2, I disagree because he does have football intelligence and plays with his head up. Where he's struggled is his overall technical skill + physical strength. When you are a relatively small striker, you need to be physically strong to hold off challenges from defenders and technically gifted for the ball to stick to your leg while fighting off challenges. This is where he struggles most. His vision and movement are good enough but its in the aforementioned aspects that he struggles. Until he fixes those aspects, he will not score nor play often at this level.

Re: Diego Forlan and Kelechi Iheanacho

Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 11:24 pm
by txj
green4life wrote:
txj wrote:
Damunk wrote:
danfo driver wrote:If Iheanacho has the opportunity (financial and clubwise) to head to Italy or Germany, he should grab it with both hands. He will be tearing the net in both leagues. Unfortunately, i do not believe any club in both countries will give him the same financial package as Leicester. But who knows?!

I wouldnt suggest Spain, honestly.
Okay, let's play the Devil's Advocate here.
All sentments aside.... where does this unshakeable belief in Kelechi actually come from?
His U17 youth days?
His brief spell at 'City?
His SE outings?

I ask because I used to be one of his greatest fans (check out my numerous postings on the kid) but I am struggling to keep the faith.

I have always said he is a 'confidence' player, a 'young' player, even a 'misused player' but there are only so many excuses one can give.

I want him to do well but are we hoping on feelings rather than fact?
Just curious - and not a little frustrated.

Two things, in my personal opinion:

1. He lacks professional ambition
2. He is of average football intelligence in that he doesn't learn quickly and appears not to retain what he's learnt.
I agree with you on #1 but with respect to #2, I disagree because he does have football intelligence and plays with his head up. Where he's struggled is his overall technical skill + physical strength. When you are a relatively small striker, you need to be physically strong to hold off challenges from defenders and technically gifted for the ball to stick to your leg while fighting off challenges. This is where he struggles most. His vision and movement are good enough but its in the aforementioned aspects that he struggles. Until he fixes those aspects, he will not score nor play often at this level.

There's a clip of a KDB counterattacking move from 2017 somewhere on Youtube. As he advances upfield he is pointing at where Kele should be making his run. Before then, Kelechi is taking stutter steps with hands to his sides, with the palms open, back to goal, waiting for the pass...

I still see him doing this towards Maddison at Leicester...