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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:53 pm 
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I sometimes thank God there are no whites in Nigeria. SA vs Spain, the only white SA player on the field is the captain (the coach looks east Indian). USA vs Ecuador U20, 9 of the 11 players are blacks, mixed, or Latino yet one of the two white players is the captain (the coach is white). I know its a team but those things send an unhealthy message that blacks cant lead. Not a good look.


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I sometimes thank God there are no whites in Nigeria. SA vs Spain, the only white SA player on the field is the captain (the coach looks east Indian). USA vs Ecuador U20, 9 of the 11 players are blacks, mixed, or Latino yet one of the two white players is the captain (the coach is white). I know its a team but those things send an unhealthy message that blacks cant lead. Not a good look.


Hm, I wonder where they got that idea. BTW, the country from which you are typing this, is it led by black people?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:59 pm 
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Mods please move this to world football forum

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This is done as an indication of inclusiveness. Francedid the same for the ongoing men U-20.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:24 pm 
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oscar52 wrote:
I sometimes thank God there are no whites in Nigeria. SA vs Spain, the only white SA player on the field is the captain (the coach looks east Indian). USA vs Ecuador U20, 9 of the 11 players are blacks, mixed, or Latino yet one of the two white players is the captain (the coach is white). I know its a team but those things send an unhealthy message that blacks cant lead. Not a good look.
...what is the history of the SA captain on their women national football vs other black players )longevity and talent wise).
On the US team, please tell us also about the white captain time on the US youth program, his current status, club and talent.
Note, as a former player and coach myself, captaincy on a team is based on many things, especially leadership quality, ability to give command and lead by example.
So forget the white black thing.
Btw, why is some countries have all black players, but the leadership of the country is totally white? Example, Ecuador, Colombia?


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:27 pm 
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We should not be condoning racism on CE. In either direction.

This thread is racist.

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oscar52 wrote:
I sometimes thank God there are no whites in Nigeria. SA vs Spain, the only white SA player on the field is the captain (the coach looks east Indian). USA vs Ecuador U20, 9 of the 11 players are blacks, mixed, or Latino yet one of the two white players is the captain (the coach is white). I know its a team but those things send an unhealthy message that blacks cant lead. Not a good look.

Well black people maybe in majority but they don’t have the power or even unity (see white Jesus) a lot of black People are happy with the status quo and wouldn’t respect another black person when given a Captains role!

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:41 pm 
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oscar52 wrote:
I sometimes thank God there are no whites in Nigeria. SA vs Spain, the only white SA player on the field is the captain (the coach looks east Indian). USA vs Ecuador U20, 9 of the 11 players are blacks, mixed, or Latino yet one of the two white players is the captain (the coach is white). I know its a team but those things send an unhealthy message that blacks cant lead. Not a good look.


Do we always have to see racism in everything. Maybe we should applaud the white USA coach for fielding 9 people of color abi?


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kawawa wrote:
oscar52 wrote:
I sometimes thank God there are no whites in Nigeria. SA vs Spain, the only white SA player on the field is the captain (the coach looks east Indian). USA vs Ecuador U20, 9 of the 11 players are blacks, mixed, or Latino yet one of the two white players is the captain (the coach is white). I know its a team but those things send an unhealthy message that blacks cant lead. Not a good look.


Do we always have to see racism in everything. Maybe we should applaud the white USA coach for fielding 9 people of color abi?


All am asking for is that things be done on merit except if their is a societal value for deviation like affirmative action. If I see nine white players and a black captain sometimes I wont mind but all too often in France, England, USA you see a white captain on mostly minority teams. Seeing it in the SA women WC team , on the African continent is what seems odd to me. Its the wider impact beyond soccer that concerns me sha. Anyway some people see nothing wrong with it so I will keep quiet but there are black kids that can lead too and I dont buy the token stuff, there are other ways to do token but leadership should go to the person who deserves it, if its the white fine but too often in these countries the white players wear the captaincy even when they seem uncomfortable being one on the field.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:03 pm 
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What do u expect when a country of 150 million blacks employs a white coach to manage their national team?

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The SA captain is the oldest and most capped SA female footballer. This thread simply shows that the author does not follow African female football. The SA captain is in her late 30s and have been captain for more than 10 years.

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This tread stinks .....pinching my nose

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:58 pm 
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oscar52 wrote:
kawawa wrote:
oscar52 wrote:
I sometimes thank God there are no whites in Nigeria. SA vs Spain, the only white SA player on the field is the captain (the coach looks east Indian). USA vs Ecuador U20, 9 of the 11 players are blacks, mixed, or Latino yet one of the two white players is the captain (the coach is white). I know its a team but those things send an unhealthy message that blacks cant lead. Not a good look.


Do we always have to see racism in everything. Maybe we should applaud the white USA coach for fielding 9 people of color abi?


All am asking for is that things be done on merit except if their is a societal value for deviation like affirmative action. If I see nine white players and a black captain sometimes I wont mind but all too often in France, England, USA you see a white captain on mostly minority teams. Seeing it in the SA women WC team , on the African continent is what seems odd to me. Its the wider impact beyond soccer that concerns me sha. Anyway some people see nothing wrong with it so I will keep quiet but there are black kids that can lead too and I dont buy the token stuff, there are other ways to do token but leadership should go to the person who deserves it, if its the white fine but too often in these countries the white players wear the captaincy even when they seem uncomfortable being one on the field.


Might just be the time to pack it up. This was not well thought through. Racism does exist, we all know but not everything is


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txj wrote:
We should not be condoning racism on CE. In either direction.

This thread is racist.


How?


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The SA captain is the oldest and most capped SA female footballer. This thread simply shows that the author does not follow African female football. The SA captain is in her late 30s and have been captain for more than 10 years.


If that's the case, I rest my case. I was just pointing out something I noticed.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:15 pm 
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lacidi wrote:
The SA captain is the oldest and most capped SA female footballer. This thread simply shows that the author does not follow African female football. The SA captain is in hero late 30s and have been captain for more than 10 years.


Or that the author is making a judgment based on the color of the player.

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While true that WE face unique challenges, its TIME for US to step up and TAKE it..... No one will hand over anything to anyone anymore based on injustice of the past. The loudest critics of affirmative actions in the US today are ASIANS. We need to stop seeing RACISM in everything

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:18 pm 
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I live in SA and follow the Banyana Banyana team and Janine van Wyk is the deserved captain of the team, everything else is just looking for trouble when there isnt one. Just like there is a black Captain of the South African mostly white team...keeping it moving ->

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I thought someone who has been on the team since 2005 that is freaking 14 years, is more than qualified to be the captain of the team whether white or black. In fact she looks like the mum of all the other players. Let us keep bigotry away from the RSA team.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:39 pm 
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txj wrote:
We should not be condoning racism on CE. In either direction.

This thread is racist.


You call it condoning racism, I call it criticizing injustice. Why must an overwhelmingly black group be led by a white person :?: :!:

Here’s an anecdote. I asked for help on a project I was leading at work. The project group was pretty diverse. Anyway, this young, White intern, a college junior at the time, was assigned to help out. Right from the get go, he was behaving as if he was in charge. Of course, I told him, as subtly as I could, where to get off. Thereafter, he got with the program :!:


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I live in SA and follow the Banyana Banyana team and Janine van Wyk is the deserved captain of the team, everything else is just looking for trouble when there isnt one. Just like there is a black Captain of the South African mostly white team...keeping it moving ->


since you live in sa why are there no white football players in the team but one

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