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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:08 pm 
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While this is merely conjecture the possibility is not far fetched. Think deeply......

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Yes, Africa is currently attracting the dregs of that talent but it will not be long when the real talents among that group begin to declare for their parents' home teams . . . The challenge is how will Europe react when it is Africa, not France, at the zenith? Make no mistake about it. It won’t be pretty.


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European leaders would argue that it is (1) a way to prevent the constant travel of players to distant places and shortchanging of clubs that pay the wages of the players, (2) they would demur the absence of players from club games and argue that league-based international competition ensures that clubs and players control fixtures under FIFA’s watch, (3) that this will prevent the disruption of players' family lives, (4) that the fans will be attracted to this because of familiarity with players that represent them, and (5) additional bullshit


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:53 pm 
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Enugu II wrote:
While this is merely conjecture the possibility is not far fetched. Think deeply......

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Yes, Africa is currently attracting the dregs of that talent but it will not be long when the real talents among that group begin to declare for their parents' home teams . . . The challenge is how will Europe react when it is Africa, not France, at the zenith? Make no mistake about it. It won’t be pretty.


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European leaders would argue that it is (1) a way to prevent the constant travel of players to distant places and shortchanging of clubs that pay the wages of the players, (2) they would demur the absence of players from club games and argue that league-based international competition ensures that clubs and players control fixtures under FIFA’s watch, (3) that this will prevent the disruption of players' family lives, (4) that the fans will be attracted to this because of familiarity with players that represent them, and (5) additional bullshit


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https://eaglecity.blogspot.com/2020/07/the-real-danger-of-african-team-winning.html
Prof, this thing is closer than most people believe.

I do not believe a country has to have the best players in the world to win the world cup.
It has to have a top quality (world class) 'spine' and decent (ie quality) 'peripherals'. Maybe one world class on-pitch 'general', confident and capable of lifting the team. Like a Keshi or an Okocha who were capable of this in their different ways.

The problem the great African WC teams of the past have had is that they have had world class players in two or three positions supported by below average players in others. Nigeria is a good example. Same with Senegal, Ghana and Cote D'Ivoire.

Today, I do not believe Nigeria has the 'dregs' of Europe in our ranks as you say. That might have applied in 2014, but not today. We have raided the youth ranks of Nigeria-eligible players born in Europe. We have won some and lost some, but many of these kids are some of the best in their age bracket. Its about the future and how they turn out. The days of 'daddy' Sola Ameobi and 'uncle' Danny Shittu are long gone. :D
Moreover we have the local talent but we just need a way of nurturing them to at least 'international class' without compromising the national team's quality.

After that comes the self-belief which is part innate, part experience coming from playing regularly with the world's best. Nigerians for the most part do not lack self-belief, even if many a time it can be misplaced or unfounded. :lol:

Next is the coach. No matter the quality and confidence of the players, there has to be a certain tactical nous
brought to bear by the coach, but augmented by the more experienced players and the intelligence of the younger, less experienced players.

You don't need a 'world class' coach to conquer the world. I don't consider England's Southgate to be that brilliant, but he is decent and knows his players. He got his team to within a whisker of the World Cup final in 2018. Yet I don't see the world's top teams scrambling for his signature when his contract runs out in '22.

Finally, there are the natural attributes of the players that need to be optimised. No doubt, we have physical strength and speed on our side. Not uniquely so (Vardy or Sterling will give Osimhen or Chukwueze a run for their money any day), but on average we are not wanting in that department and should use it to our advantage whenever possible.

Many of us have no apologies to make to anyone for scouring the planet for Nigerian players.
The closer Nigeria comes to achieving our dream of winning the world cup, the more players of Nigerian heritage will come knocking.

We can win it and will win it sooner rather than later.
E go do dem like film trick.

Up Super Eagles. :thumbs:

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:22 pm 
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Damunk wrote:
Enugu II wrote:
While this is merely conjecture the possibility is not far fetched. Think deeply......

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Yes, Africa is currently attracting the dregs of that talent but it will not be long when the real talents among that group begin to declare for their parents' home teams . . . The challenge is how will Europe react when it is Africa, not France, at the zenith? Make no mistake about it. It won’t be pretty.


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European leaders would argue that it is (1) a way to prevent the constant travel of players to distant places and shortchanging of clubs that pay the wages of the players, (2) they would demur the absence of players from club games and argue that league-based international competition ensures that clubs and players control fixtures under FIFA’s watch, (3) that this will prevent the disruption of players' family lives, (4) that the fans will be attracted to this because of familiarity with players that represent them, and (5) additional bullshit


Details found here:

https://eaglecity.blogspot.com/2020/07/the-real-danger-of-african-team-winning.html
Prof, this thing is closer than most people believe.

I do not believe a country has to have the best players in the world to win the world cup.
It has to have a top quality (world class) 'spine' and decent (ie quality) 'peripherals'. Maybe one world class on-pitch 'general', confident and capable of lifting the team. Like a Keshi or an Okocha who were capable of this in their different ways.

The problem the great African WC teams of the past have had is that they have had world class players in two or three positions supported by below average players in others. Nigeria is a good example. Same with Senegal, Ghana and Cote D'Ivoire.

Today, I do not believe Nigeria has the 'dregs' of Europe in our ranks as you say. That might have applied in 2014, but not today. We have raided the youth ranks of Nigeria-eligible players born in Europe. We have won some and lost some, but many of these kids are some of the best in their age bracket. Its about the future and how they turn out. The days of 'daddy' Sola Ameobi and 'uncle' Danny Shittu are long gone. :D
Moreover we have the local talent but we just need a way of nurturing them to at least 'international class' without compromising the national team's quality.

After that comes the self-belief which is part innate, part experience coming from playing regularly with the world's best. Nigerians for the most part do not lack self-belief, even if many a time it can be misplaced or unfounded. :lol:

Next is the coach. No matter the quality and confidence of the players, there has to be a certain tactical nous
brought to bear by the coach, but augmented by the more experienced players and the intelligence of the younger, less experienced players.

You don't need a 'world class' coach to conquer the world. I don't consider England's Southgate to be that brilliant, but he is decent and knows his players. He got his team to within a whisker of the World Cup final in 2018. Yet I don't see the world's top teams scrambling for his signature when his contract runs out in '22.

Finally, there are the natural attributes of the players that need to be optimised. No doubt, we have physical strength and speed on our side. Not uniquely so (Vardy or Sterling will give Osimhen or Chukwueze a run for their money any day), but on average we are not wanting in that department and should use it to our advantage whenever possible.

Many of us have no apologies to make to anyone for scouring the planet for Nigerian players.
The closer Nigeria comes to achieving our dream of winning the world cup, the more players of Nigerian heritage will come knocking.

We can win it and will win it sooner rather than later.
E go do dem like film trick.

Up Super Eagles. :thumbs:


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:06 pm 
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It would take a truck load of luck for Nigeria or any African country to win it.
Organization and money required is lacking.
US will win it before any county in Africa.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:59 am 
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No wonder we hardly have any new invention by black folks or the black continent. Too negative. They don't believe they're adequate. Inferior thinking.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:10 am 
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ANC wrote:
It would take a truck load of luck for Nigeria or any African country to win it.
Organization and money required is lacking.
US will win it before any county in Africa.
Well they'd better hurry up.
Organised football in the US predates Nigerian football by over 30 years and the USSF is older than every single national football association in Africa. :idea:

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