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Our third goal.
Watching the game and really impressed with our front press.
The press from Iwobi, Ighalo and Etebo led to that misplaced pass to Musa, which led to the goal.
The press from Iwobi, Ighalo and Etebo led to that misplaced pass to Musa, which led to the goal.
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Re: Our third goal.
Both defences made terrible blunders:
Omeruo beaten in the air twice
Aina being outmuscled
Akpeyi being beaten at his near post
Awaziem not stopping a cross
We have looked at our errors but if you look at the Cameroon defence too, they too were pretty philanthropic:
Not closing down Ighalo on the first goal
Allowing Musa to chest the ball in their area for the second goal
Giving away the ball in midfield for our third goal
African football still has a lot more to do. An average European team will be looking at this Nations Cup thinking: "We can beat any of these teams."
Omeruo beaten in the air twice
Aina being outmuscled
Akpeyi being beaten at his near post
Awaziem not stopping a cross
We have looked at our errors but if you look at the Cameroon defence too, they too were pretty philanthropic:
Not closing down Ighalo on the first goal
Allowing Musa to chest the ball in their area for the second goal
Giving away the ball in midfield for our third goal
African football still has a lot more to do. An average European team will be looking at this Nations Cup thinking: "We can beat any of these teams."
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Re: Our third goal.
Oh puhlease!!!! Stop that nonsense. There is no soccer team anywhere on the face of this planet that cannot, has not and will not make blunders-- in defense and other parts of the field. - in any single match. When countries are allowed to field robots in their lineup, then maybe you can come sell that ish about almighty, inerrant European teams.Ayo Akinfe wrote:Both defences made terrible blunders:
Omeruo beaten in the air twice
Aina being outmuscled
Akpeyi being beaten at his near post
Awaziem not stopping a cross
We have looked at our errors but if you look at the Cameroon defence too, they too were pretty philanthropic:
Not closing down Ighalo on the first goal
Allowing Musa to chest the ball in their area for the second goal
Giving away the ball in midfield for our third goal
African football still has a lot more to do. An average European team will be looking at this Nations Cup thinking: "We can beat any of these teams."
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Re: Our third goal.
THIS WEEK IN CONCACAF, COMMEBOL...THERE WERE TONS OF BLUNDERS. NOTHING TO DO WITH AFRICAN FOOTBALL UNLESS YOU'VE NEVER PLAYED FOOTIE.Ayo Akinfe wrote:African football still has a lot more to do. An average European team will be looking at this Nations Cup thinking: "We can beat any of these teams."
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Re: Our third goal.
DunamistheDunamis wrote:Oh puhlease!!!! Stop that nonsense. There is no soccer team anywhere on the face of this planet that cannot, has not and will not make blunders-- in defense and other parts of the field. - in any single match. When countries are allowed to field robots in their lineup, then maybe you can come sell that ish about almighty, inerrant European teams.Ayo Akinfe wrote:Both defences made terrible blunders:
Omeruo beaten in the air twice
Aina being outmuscled
Akpeyi being beaten at his near post
Awaziem not stopping a cross
We have looked at our errors but if you look at the Cameroon defence too, they too were pretty philanthropic:
Not closing down Ighalo on the first goal
Allowing Musa to chest the ball in their area for the second goal
Giving away the ball in midfield for our third goal
African football still has a lot more to do. An average European team will be looking at this Nations Cup thinking: "We can beat any of these teams."
Point. I think Ayo is confusing being beaten by your man and what is a genuine error. I do not believe any of the two goals conceded against Cameroon were errors in the sense that they represent cases that the player made poor efforts or were unforced. Compare those incidents with goal given up against Madagascar.
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Re: Our third goal.
Why you dey waste your time explaining to Ayo?theDunamis wrote:Oh puhlease!!!! Stop that nonsense. There is no soccer team anywhere on the face of this planet that cannot, has not and will not make blunders-- in defense and other parts of the field. - in any single match. When countries are allowed to field robots in their lineup, then maybe you can come sell that ish about almighty, inerrant European teams.Ayo Akinfe wrote:Both defences made terrible blunders:
Omeruo beaten in the air twice
Aina being outmuscled
Akpeyi being beaten at his near post
Awaziem not stopping a cross
We have looked at our errors but if you look at the Cameroon defence too, they too were pretty philanthropic:
Not closing down Ighalo on the first goal
Allowing Musa to chest the ball in their area for the second goal
Giving away the ball in midfield for our third goal
African football still has a lot more to do. An average European team will be looking at this Nations Cup thinking: "We can beat any of these teams."
How can being outmuscled be a 'blunder'?
How can being legitimately beaten in the air be a ‘blunder’?
The whole ethos of football (and all sport for that matter) is based around the winning and losing of
Individual and collective duels.
Those were not blunders.
Balogun committed a blunder v Madagascar.
Finish.
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Re: Our third goal.
Going by analysis from experienced defenders like Rio Ferdinand, for Cameroon's 1st goal, Awaziem backed off and invited the cross rather than stifle the danger, but more importantly for Omeruo, when a ball is coming in from the wings, central defenders like Ferdinand, Vidic, Van Dijk quickly adjust their body shape to face the ball squarely to head it away. Actually, for the crosses that came into the box in the 2nd half, Omeruo did adjust his shape to face the ball and dealt with them. So, we can put the lapse for the cameroonian goal to lack of concentration.Ayo Akinfe wrote:Both defences made terrible blunders:
Omeruo beaten in the air twice
Aina being outmuscled
Akpeyi being beaten at his near post
Awaziem not stopping a cross
We have looked at our errors but if you look at the Cameroon defence too, they too were pretty philanthropic:
Not closing down Ighalo on the first goal
Allowing Musa to chest the ball in their area for the second goal
Giving away the ball in midfield for our third goal
African football still has a lot more to do. An average European team will be looking at this Nations Cup thinking: "We can beat any of these teams."
Our 3rd goal actually interested me in that Iwobi's run was not picked by the Cameroonian midfield and you could almost see the goal coming. The key was that Ighalo spotted Iwobi's run and found a way by nutmegging the defender and passing into space so that Iwobi did not break his run speed but simply opened his body to pass the ball into the net. It was a brilliant technical goal that looked like a training move.
Certainly one of the best goals scored by the SE in recent times.
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Re: Our third goal.
Enugu II wrote:DunamistheDunamis wrote:Oh puhlease!!!! Stop that nonsense. There is no soccer team anywhere on the face of this planet that cannot, has not and will not make blunders-- in defense and other parts of the field. - in any single match. When countries are allowed to field robots in their lineup, then maybe you can come sell that ish about almighty, inerrant European teams.Ayo Akinfe wrote:Both defences made terrible blunders:
Omeruo beaten in the air twice
Aina being outmuscled
Akpeyi being beaten at his near post
Awaziem not stopping a cross
We have looked at our errors but if you look at the Cameroon defence too, they too were pretty philanthropic:
Not closing down Ighalo on the first goal
Allowing Musa to chest the ball in their area for the second goal
Giving away the ball in midfield for our third goal
African football still has a lot more to do. An average European team will be looking at this Nations Cup thinking: "We can beat any of these teams."
Point. I think Ayo is confusing being beaten by your man and what is a genuine error. I do not believe any of the two goals conceded against Cameroon were errors in the sense that they represent cases that the player made poor efforts or were unforced. Compare those incidents with goal given up against Madagascar.
Enugu II, why do you think it is that Omeruo cannot get into the Chelsea team? For an English central defenders to be beaten twice ion the air like that in one game is considered as terrible a blunder as Balogun's howler against Madagascar.
Let us not try and paper over serious cracks abeg. If a player does that at Real Madrid, Barcelona, Man City, Liverpool, etc the club will be in the market for a replacement immediately.
In Italy, if you do that, the fans will boo you all season, forcing the manager to drop you. Being beaten by some brilliance is one thing but being outjumped or taken out by a long ball is another!
Re: Our third goal.
Title of the thread: Our third goal.Ayo Akinfe wrote:Both defences made terrible blunders:
Omeruo beaten in the air twice
Aina being outmuscled
Akpeyi being beaten at his near post
Awaziem not stopping a cross
We have looked at our errors but if you look at the Cameroon defence too, they too were pretty philanthropic:
Not closing down Ighalo on the first goal
Allowing Musa to chest the ball in their area for the second goal
Giving away the ball in midfield for our third goal
African football still has a lot more to do. An average European team will be looking at this Nations Cup thinking: "We can beat any of these teams."
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The same Omerou one of the best defenders in the Spanish league
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Re: Our third goal.
theDunamis wrote:Oh puhlease!!!! Stop that nonsense. There is no soccer team anywhere on the face of this planet that cannot, has not and will not make blunders-- in defense and other parts of the field. - in any single match. When countries are allowed to field robots in their lineup, then maybe you can come sell that ish about almighty, inerrant European teams.Ayo Akinfe wrote:Both defences made terrible blunders:
Omeruo beaten in the air twice
Aina being outmuscled
Akpeyi being beaten at his near post
Awaziem not stopping a cross
We have looked at our errors but if you look at the Cameroon defence too, they too were pretty philanthropic:
Not closing down Ighalo on the first goal
Allowing Musa to chest the ball in their area for the second goal
Giving away the ball in midfield for our third goal
African football still has a lot more to do. An average European team will be looking at this Nations Cup thinking: "We can beat any of these teams."
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Re: Our third goal.
Not impressed at all by our high press-- let me call it what you did, "front press," because we have a very poor high press. To be fair, every coach is different. I love high pressing, but I know Rohr is a defensive coach and doesn't know high press exists, and that's also okay.imehjunior wrote:Watching the game and really impressed with our front press.
The press from Iwobi, Ighalo and Etebo led to that misplaced pass to Musa, which led to the goal.
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metalalloy wrote: Does the SE have Gray, Mahrez or Albrighton on our team or players of their caliber?
Re: Our third goal.
danfo driver wrote:Not impressed at all by our high press-- let me call it what you did, "front press," because we have a very poor high press. To be fair, every coach is different. I love high pressing, but I know Rohr is a defensive coach and doesn't know high press exists, and that's also okay.imehjunior wrote:Watching the game and really impressed with our front press.
The press from Iwobi, Ighalo and Etebo led to that misplaced pass to Musa, which led to the goal.
More like a steam iron press!
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We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini. We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible – you can beat better teams by using tactics." Jurgen Klopp
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This is your opinion? or the opinion of Real madrid, Barca, Valencia, Sevilla, Atleti who are all scrambling to get his signature?skillful wrote:The same Omerou one of the best defenders in the Spanish league
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metalalloy wrote: Does the SE have Gray, Mahrez or Albrighton on our team or players of their caliber?
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I am no fan of Akpeyi (to put it lightly), but blaming him for being beaten at the near post shows you really don't know how to analyze soccer.
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deanotito wrote:I am no fan of Akpeyi (to put it lightly), but blaming him for being beaten at the near post shows you really don't know how to analyze soccer.
He is not to blame of course, but he clearly was uselessly helpless; he didn't even make a "hopelessly fake" attempt that could be argued as trying to stop the goal. He just hit the flow, like a tree trunk.
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It is Very Clear that Guys Have Never Played Organized Football Matches ( 11 vs 11 ) in real Pitches in organized leagues. Home and Away against different opposition.
It is Very Clear that Guys Have Never Played Organized Football Matches ( 11 vs 11 ) in real Pitches in organized leagues. Home and Away against different opposition.