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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:04 am 
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Thank you, these guys are trying to rewrite history like Iwobi and Moses were being heavily courted by England and yet chose Nigeria. Extremely unlikely, as over-protective as Iwobi's parents are over him you don't think they would have preferred the safer, more lucrative option, than an FA that will be owing its players with one logistical issue after another? These guys are simply fooling themselves, its simply when a player feels their chances of being selected by England are slim that they come over.
Actually, you might be totally wrong on that one.
You might be speaking for yourself but there is more to it for a parent than choosing the 'safer' option wrt national teams.
Its a sentimental issue above everything else. Once your child's financial future is secured at the club level (in ways which as a parent you could never even dream of), the rest is about the heart.
I am yet to meet a father of a young Nigerian player here in the UK that doesn't want his kid to play for Nigeria. I've met Chuks Aneke's father. I've spoken to Iwobi's father and I've seen Aina's father on video talking emotionally about the day he will see his son play for Nigeria - which as we know eventually happened.
My own nephew who was on the books of Crystal Palace and later courted by Spurs as a 15 year old was constantly bombarded by myself and his father about his future national allegiance ever since he was recruited at 8yrs old - until he suddenly called it quits at 15. It broke his dad's heart, but how for do?

This is why Dominic Iorfa's active discouragement of his son's Nigerian football heritage was so baffling. But see them now, offering themselves up for SE consideration.


Could be wrong, but also not a single one of those players you mentioned had a real shot of playing for England else they would have knocked sense into the parents about the various benefits of choosing 3Lions, logic at some point would prevail. Aside from the sentimental aspect there is not a real reason to choose Nigeria. Once 3Lions start courting you, your parents would be in the way of your greatness by suggesting going with the much lesser country.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:54 am 
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Thank you, these guys are trying to rewrite history like Iwobi and Moses were being heavily courted by England and yet chose Nigeria. Extremely unlikely, as over-protective as Iwobi's parents are over him you don't think they would have preferred the safer, more lucrative option, than an FA that will be owing its players with one logistical issue after another? These guys are simply fooling themselves, its simply when a player feels their chances of being selected by England are slim that they come over.
Actually, you might be totally wrong on that one.
You might be speaking for yourself but there is more to it for a parent than choosing the 'safer' option wrt national teams.
Its a sentimental issue above everything else. Once your child's financial future is secured at the club level (in ways which as a parent you could never even dream of), the rest is about the heart.
I am yet to meet a father of a young Nigerian player here in the UK that doesn't want his kid to play for Nigeria. I've met Chuks Aneke's father. I've spoken to Iwobi's father and I've seen Aina's father on video talking emotionally about the day he will see his son play for Nigeria - which as we know eventually happened.
My own nephew who was on the books of Crystal Palace and later courted by Spurs as a 15 year old was constantly bombarded by myself and his father about his future national allegiance ever since he was recruited at 8yrs old - until he suddenly called it quits at 15. It broke his dad's heart, but how for do?

This is why Dominic Iorfa's active discouragement of his son's Nigerian football heritage was so baffling. But see them now, offering themselves up for SE consideration.


Could be wrong, but also not a single one of those players you mentioned had a real shot of playing for England else they would have knocked sense into the parents about the various benefits of choosing 3Lions, logic at some point would prevail. Aside from the sentimental aspect there is not a real reason to choose Nigeria. Once 3Lions start courting you, your parents would be in the way of your greatness by suggesting going with the much lesser country.
You may be right but my point refers to your comment about parents, not about the players.
Parental influence can only go so far and they can't force anything, but I have no doubt that the greater percentage of Nigerian parents here in the UK would be sentimental about it and want their kids to play for Nigeria.
I suspect the US is different for a number of reasons, but here in the UK the Nigerian identity is quite strong, probably stronger than it has ever been.

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Damunk wrote:
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Damunk wrote:
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Thank you, these guys are trying to rewrite history like Iwobi and Moses were being heavily courted by England and yet chose Nigeria. Extremely unlikely, as over-protective as Iwobi's parents are over him you don't think they would have preferred the safer, more lucrative option, than an FA that will be owing its players with one logistical issue after another? These guys are simply fooling themselves, its simply when a player feels their chances of being selected by England are slim that they come over.
Actually, you might be totally wrong on that one.
You might be speaking for yourself but there is more to it for a parent than choosing the 'safer' option wrt national teams.
Its a sentimental issue above everything else. Once your child's financial future is secured at the club level (in ways which as a parent you could never even dream of), the rest is about the heart.
I am yet to meet a father of a young Nigerian player here in the UK that doesn't want his kid to play for Nigeria. I've met Chuks Aneke's father. I've spoken to Iwobi's father and I've seen Aina's father on video talking emotionally about the day he will see his son play for Nigeria - which as we know eventually happened.
My own nephew who was on the books of Crystal Palace and later courted by Spurs as a 15 year old was constantly bombarded by myself and his father about his future national allegiance ever since he was recruited at 8yrs old - until he suddenly called it quits at 15. It broke his dad's heart, but how for do?

This is why Dominic Iorfa's active discouragement of his son's Nigerian football heritage was so baffling. But see them now, offering themselves up for SE consideration.


Could be wrong, but also not a single one of those players you mentioned had a real shot of playing for England else they would have knocked sense into the parents about the various benefits of choosing 3Lions, logic at some point would prevail. Aside from the sentimental aspect there is not a real reason to choose Nigeria. Once 3Lions start courting you, your parents would be in the way of your greatness by suggesting going with the much lesser country.
You may be right but my point refers to your comment about parents, not about the players.
Parental influence can only go so far and they can't force anything, but I have no doubt that the greater percentage of Nigerian parents here in the UK would be sentimental about it and want their kids to play for Nigeria.
I suspect the US is different for a number of reasons, but here in the UK the Nigerian identity is quite strong, probably stronger than it has ever been.

That is true but Abrahamar is made his decision so lets wish him good luck and move on!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:35 am 
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they willl cap him against Bulgaria.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... -chelseas/

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:45 am 
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Sir V wrote:
they willl cap him against Bulgaria.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... -chelseas/


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... place.html

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:13 am 
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I hear bobo don rule out Naija for England again. Scoring 4 goals in two matches can make you become the bride England wanted again. And the attention of England can make a diva bride swoon and change his fickle affection.


I missed Tammy papa for Kings last Saturday, I would have asked him if Tammy will play for Naija.

Lol! save your breath - England got him. However I think the way he conducted the whole affair is distinctly distasteful. I would have more respect for him if he made it clear from the outset he had England as his sole target and not waste NFA's time. Silly boy! I wish him more success though.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:51 am 
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Some sausage seem to get off on one by calling for me to comment on some Italian d1ck head's comment on Lukaku.
I even refuse to enter that thread on a matter of principle. I comment when I want to comment.

So I feel like commenting now.

Here's the same sausage's comment when Tammy Abraham, a black man, a Nigerian by origin was racially abused

Sausage, you have no moral authority to call anyone out



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to me Abraham isn't good enough for the SE and I hope we reject him , however he made his bed..now he is being racially abused. He should think twice when he picks a national team to play for.... However i have no care for bobo's choice, but left to me he isn't a top footballer and has no potentials to get better..the racist insults are horrible...this tammy was busy choosing England eh...smh

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:00 pm 
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pajimoh wrote:
Some sausage seem to get off on one by calling for me to comment on some Italian d1ck head's comment on Lukaku.
I even refuse to enter that thread on a matter of principle. I comment when I want to comment.

So I feel like commenting now.

Here's the same sausage's comment when Tammy Abraham, a black man, a Nigerian by origin was racially abused

Sausage, you have no moral authority to call anyone out



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to me Abraham isn't good enough for the SE and I hope we reject him , however he made his bed..now he is being racially abused. He should think twice when he picks a national team to play for.... However i have no care for bobo's choice, but left to me he isn't a top footballer and has no potentials to get better..the racist insults are horrible...this tammy was busy choosing England eh...smh

2 huge different issues here... did you enter the thread yes or no, however you failed to make a comment because you see nothing wrong with Africans/Black players being racially abused.... you even posted that some of the abuses aren't racist and that just maybe the players brought such on themselves...

Now Tammy played vs a continental European team and was exposed... you people are here shouting the guy is good, 4 goals against Chelsea this season were all errors from tammy.... what sort of man is called tammy anyways? that's the name of a woman..

I repeat we do not need that guy and most of his goals were pure luck, Pool is next , this guy will go missing again.

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