John Ogu's all time SE 11

[deanotito]

https://soccernet.ng/2019/08/super-eagl ... hoice.html

Apologies if this has been posted...

Enyeama
Keshi
Okechukwu
Babayaro
Yobo

Oliseh
Mikel
Okocha
Amo

Yekini
Kanu

I must confess I am intrigued by Ogu's selection....especially the midfield. Thinking of a midfield of JJ, The Bull, Oliseh and Mikel makes my mouth water ...I mean, this is a WC winning side.

[Bigpokey24]

433,
that is one top line up.., Mikel and Oliseh behind JJ, Kanu, Yekini and AMO..that Defense got some ball playing defenders....

[deanotito]

433,
that is one top line up.., Mikel and Oliseh behind JJ, Kanu, Yekini and AMO..that Defense got some ball playing defenders....

I gotta say...the guy put some thought into this. Didnt fall prey to choosing some usual suspects like Finidi and Amunike....but hard to see who those 2 could really improve upon in this lineup.

[EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA]

Where’s MAK? Dis Ogu of a man is useless.

[The Eagle]

433,
that is one top line up.., Mikel and Oliseh behind JJ, Kanu, Yekini and AMO..that Defense got some ball playing defenders....

The players he selected better fit the 4-2-2-2 "magic rectangle" associated with Brazil but sometimes used by other teams ... with Okocha and Kanu as the creative two between Mikel and Oliseh behind, and Yekini and Amokachi in front.

Ogu's is an interesting take on an old topic. Truth be told, you can predict someone's age-group by looking at their all-time Eagles 11 list.

[The Eagle]

433,
that is one top line up.., Mikel and Oliseh behind JJ, Kanu, Yekini and AMO..that Defense got some ball playing defenders....

I gotta say...the guy put some thought into this. Didnt fall prey to choosing some usual suspects like Finidi and Amunike....but hard to see who those 2 could really improve upon in this lineup.

It is a system thing. In a different universe, a manager who had all of these players at his disposal could change his approach to each match by changing his starting 11.

PS: Is no one going to question Babayaro's presence on the list?

[deanotito]

433,
that is one top line up.., Mikel and Oliseh behind JJ, Kanu, Yekini and AMO..that Defense got some ball playing defenders....

I gotta say...the guy put some thought into this. Didnt fall prey to choosing some usual suspects like Finidi and Amunike....but hard to see who those 2 could really improve upon in this lineup.

It is a system thing. In a different universe, a manager who had all of these players at his disposal could change his approach to each match by changing his starting 11.

PS: Is no one going to question Babayaro's presence on the list?

Babayaro, in his prime, was pretty darn good.

[Bigpokey24]

His bench would be deadly as well.. Finidi , Amunike, Ikpeba, Mutui and Nwanu

[deanotito]

His bench would be deadly as well.. Finidi , Amunike, Ikpeba, Mutui and Nwanu

Omo, na die! Although this is where I may start to argue with him

[Gotti]

Babayaro, in his prime, was pretty darn good.

Good going forward...
On defense, Cele was always BACKING UP!
>

[Gotti]

Anyway, this is a post-1990s list...
No Big Sege, no Muda, no Chairman, no...

[Bigpokey24]

Anyway, this is a post-1990s list...
No Big Sege, no Muda, no Chairman, no...

Space no dey...every player on that list won Something for the SE and played at the worldcup

[1naija]

Anyway, this is a post-1990s list...
No Big Sege, no Muda, no Chairman, no...

Those players except Musa would not have even been invited to camp in modern football. The list is on point. And we know who the captain of Ogu's team would have been.

[olu]

Good squad on paper, but don't like the squad because he doesn't have any real wingers which could give his team some width. Finidi and Amunike would make the squad so much better.

https://soccernet.ng/2019/08/super-eagl ... hoice.html

Apologies if this has been posted...

Enyeama
Keshi
Okechukwu
Babayaro
Yobo

Oliseh
Mikel
Okocha
Amo

Yekini
Kanu

I must confess I am intrigued by Ogu's selection....especially the midfield. Thinking of a midfield of JJ, The Bull, Oliseh and Mikel makes my mouth water ...I mean, this is a WC winning side.

[Enugu II]

Babayaro, in his prime, was pretty darn good.

Good going forward...
On defense, Cele was always BACKING UP!
>

KPOM. Annoyingly, to state the least.

[The Eagle]

Good squad on paper, but don't like the squad because he doesn't have any real wingers which could give his team some width. Finidi and Amunike would make the squad so much better.

In a version of 4-2-2-2, the "wing play" comes from the fullbacks (think Cafu and Roberto Carlos), and to a degree from the second striker and attacking midfielders receiving and playing the ball from wide positions.

Babayaro, in his youngest incarnation, was essentially a winger ... and if memory serves, the youngest version of Yobo (the right-back version) overlapped, providing width on the right side for the Eagles. Okocha and Amokachi could attack from wide positions, though not in the way of traditional "wingers". I am not sure about Kanu ... he could do things from there (thinking of one of his goals against Chelsea), but I don't somehow see him "providing width" in its true meaning.

It is an interesting list, and an interesting thought experiment, but I am not sure it would work well in practice, especially defensively.

PS: As for my Port Harcourt neighbour's post .... the captain would likely be Keshi (RIP). Ogu's list is heavy with former captains. As near as I can recall, only Babayaro and Yekini (RIP) were not captains .... though surely I am wrong about Yekini? He had to have been captain at some point?

[deanotito]

Good squad on paper, but don't like the squad because he doesn't have any real wingers which could give his team some width. Finidi and Amunike would make the squad so much better.

In a version of 4-2-2-2, the "wing play" comes from the fullbacks (think Cafu and Roberto Carlos), and to a degree from the second striker and attacking midfielders receiving and playing the ball from wide positions.

Babayaro, in his youngest incarnation, was essentially a winger ... and if memory serves, the youngest version of Yobo (the right-back version) overlapped, providing width on the right side for the Eagles. Okocha and Amokachi could attack from wide positions, though not in the way of traditional "wingers". I am not sure about Kanu ... he could do things from there (thinking of one of his goals against Chelsea), but I don't somehow see him "providing width" in its true meaning.

It is an interesting list, and an interesting thought experiment, but I am not sure it would work well in practice, especially defensively.

PS: As for my Port Harcourt neighbour's post .... the captain would likely be Keshi (RIP). Ogu's list is heavy with former captains. As near as I can recall, only Babayaro and Yekini (RIP) were not captains .... though surely I am wrong about Yekini? He had to have been captain at some point?

Naah bro. One place this team would certifiably NOT struggle is defensively. I would say the most experimental part of this team is the Kanu-Yekini combo. I am honestly not sure that would work, but it remains intriguing nonetheless

[deanotito]

Babayaro, in his prime, was pretty darn good.

Good going forward...
On defense, Cele was always BACKING UP!
>

KPOM. Annoyingly, to state the least.

I dunno if it was as bad as you guys recall. There was one glaring time he did it (can’t remember the game) and it seemed to me that his reputation never recovered from that...at least in the eyes of the fans. All things considered, I think he was a pretty good player, though I would admit, he’s one of the few players on that list I wouldn’t go to war about if he were replaced.

[john12]

Babayaro good offensively but always backing up. I remember his backing up cost Chelsea vs Barcelona (Luis figo) and Argentina vs Nigeria 2002 (ortega

[1naija]

I think you guys are judging Babayaro after he started partying. When he was on top of his game, he was one of the best in the world!!! But when he started slipping Udeze went in and grabbed his spot in the SE. Then Taye Taiwo came in and straight up jacked the left back from Udeze. That's why I have ZERO sympathy for players like Onyekuru, Osinhem, Uzoho, kelechi etc, who want multiple chances to nail down a spot in the SE. My types of players are Yobo, Ndidi, Mikel, Taiwo, Udeze,
and recently Etebo. You have to grab every opportunity you have with both hands.

[ANC]

Babayaro was good. He was a improvement as per Ben Iroha and Mike Emenalo.

[furiously frank]

I think you guys are judging Babayaro after he started partying. When he was on top of his game, he was one of the best in the world!!! But when he started slipping Udeze went in and grabbed his spot in the SE. Then Taye Taiwo came in and straight up jacked the left back from Udeze. That's why I have ZERO sympathy for players like Onyekuru, Osinhem, Uzoho, kelechi etc, who want multiple chances to nail down a spot in the SE. My types of players are Yobo, Ndidi, Mikel, Taiwo, Udeze,
and recently Etebo. You have to grab every opportunity you have with both hands.

Your post is on point, except for your Yobo fetish

[cic old boy]

Anyway, this is a post-1990s list...
No Big Sege, no Muda, no Chairman, no...

We can conclude from the line-up that Ogu is not in his 40s/50s.