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deanotito wrote:My problem with people who add Mikel to Nigeria’s best XI is what position they are putting him in. Most people choose JJ as the 10 but put Mikel in a midfield position and also choose 2 wingers...so that implies that Mikel is the DM...BUT...when did Mikel ever play DM for Nigeria? Which game? We cannot import Chelsea’s system and say this works for Nigeria. I never thought Chelsea’s style would work for Nigeria and we never really tried it. I for one could not choose Mikel as a DM over Oliseh, Ndidi...even Mutiu

The truth is that Mikel can’t make it into a Nigeria XI. He just can’t. No one would choose him over JJ, and our fondness for the 4-4-2 means his only slot is as DM...a position he never played for Nigeria. As in Never. In a 4-3-3, you could potentially make the argument for Mikel as the central midfielder, but that throws the entire team out of balance. In a 4-3-3, I wouldn’t be choosing people like Finidi and Odegbami. I’d be going more for the Amokachis and Amunekes (and maybe Kanu) of this world to partner a Rashidi Yekini
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You can claim that he rarely played as DM for Nigeria but stating that he NEVER did, as far as I recollect, will be inaccurate. In fact, at the last WC, I believe it was Rohr's negotiation to move him (Mikel) to DM and to move Vic Moses to WB that angered both Mikel and Vic Mo. It is believed that it precipitated Vic Mo's retirement and Mikel's absence from the team for a while.
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danfo driver wrote:
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1naija wrote:Victor moses is one of the best players to ever play for Nigeria. I put him on the same level as Finidi and Amuneke (before he got injured).

LOL...he’s not even as good as Tijani Babangida...though a tad bit better than Ikpeba was as a winger.

:shock: Tijani who? :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:


Ikpeba > Victor Moses >>>>>> Tijani.

Ikpeba by the way was being played out of position, he's stated preferred position is supporting striker.
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deanotito wrote:My problem with people who add Mikel to Nigeria’s best XI is what position they are putting him in. Most people choose JJ as the 10 but put Mikel in a midfield position and also choose 2 wingers...so that implies that Mikel is the DM...BUT...when did Mikel ever play DM for Nigeria? Which game? We cannot import Chelsea’s system and say this works for Nigeria. I never thought Chelsea’s style would work for Nigeria and we never really tried it. I for one could not choose Mikel as a DM over Oliseh, Ndidi...even Mutiu

The truth is that Mikel can’t make it into a Nigeria XI. He just can’t. No one would choose him over JJ, and our fondness for the 4-4-2 means his only slot is as DM...a position he never played for Nigeria. As in Never. In a 4-3-3, you could potentially make the argument for Mikel as the central midfielder, but that throws the entire team out of balance. In a 4-3-3, I wouldn’t be choosing people like Finidi and Odegbami. I’d be going more for the Amokachis and Amunekes (and maybe Kanu) of this world to partner a Rashidi Yekini

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I stopped reading at Enyeama……

I still remember the vampire days if he doesn't.
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Ugbowo wrote:I stopped reading at Enyeama……

I still remember the vampire days if he doesn't.
I used to be a big Okala fan. But Enyeama kept on improving... and arguably had one of the best performances a goalie has had against Messi's Argentina.

He was consistent over a long period of time.

Dont' forget he did it in the era of improved equipment by the shooters. Both boot and ball were on a different level... you can hit the ball and it comes at you with speeds not yet measured before that period plus the swerve.
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deanotito wrote:My problem with people who add Mikel to Nigeria’s best XI is what position they are putting him in. Most people choose JJ as the 10 but put Mikel in a midfield position and also choose 2 wingers...so that implies that Mikel is the DM...BUT...when did Mikel ever play DM for Nigeria? Which game? We cannot import Chelsea’s system and say this works for Nigeria. I never thought Chelsea’s style would work for Nigeria and we never really tried it. I for one could not choose Mikel as a DM over Oliseh, Ndidi...even Mutiu

The truth is that Mikel can’t make it into a Nigeria XI. He just can’t. No one would choose him over JJ, and our fondness for the 4-4-2 means his only slot is as DM...a position he never played for Nigeria. As in Never. In a 4-3-3, you could potentially make the argument for Mikel as the central midfielder, but that throws the entire team out of balance. In a 4-3-3, I wouldn’t be choosing people like Finidi and Odegbami. I’d be going more for the Amokachis and Amunekes (and maybe Kanu) of this world to partner a Rashidi Yekini
deanotito,

You can claim that he rarely played as DM for Nigeria but stating that he NEVER did, as far as I recollect, will be inaccurate. In fact, at the last WC, I believe it was Rohr's negotiation to move him (Mikel) to DM and to move Vic Moses to WB that angered both Mikel and Vic Mo. It is believed that it precipitated Vic Mo's retirement and Mikel's absence from the team for a while.
Nope. Not true. Rohr moved him to CM...With Ndidi on the field and Etebo, he was never DM. The contention was if Iwobi should be the AM while Mikel should be the CM. That’s what angered Mikel. He wanted the AM role but in the first game, was largely ineffective in it.

First game: Mikel was AM
2nd and third games: CM

So I say again....Mikel has never played DM for Nigeria. So why would we force him into an XI doing just that???
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deanotito wrote:
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deanotito wrote:My problem with people who add Mikel to Nigeria’s best XI is what position they are putting him in. Most people choose JJ as the 10 but put Mikel in a midfield position and also choose 2 wingers...so that implies that Mikel is the DM...BUT...when did Mikel ever play DM for Nigeria? Which game? We cannot import Chelsea’s system and say this works for Nigeria. I never thought Chelsea’s style would work for Nigeria and we never really tried it. I for one could not choose Mikel as a DM over Oliseh, Ndidi...even Mutiu

The truth is that Mikel can’t make it into a Nigeria XI. He just can’t. No one would choose him over JJ, and our fondness for the 4-4-2 means his only slot is as DM...a position he never played for Nigeria. As in Never. In a 4-3-3, you could potentially make the argument for Mikel as the central midfielder, but that throws the entire team out of balance. In a 4-3-3, I wouldn’t be choosing people like Finidi and Odegbami. I’d be going more for the Amokachis and Amunekes (and maybe Kanu) of this world to partner a Rashidi Yekini
deanotito,

You can claim that he rarely played as DM for Nigeria but stating that he NEVER did, as far as I recollect, will be inaccurate. In fact, at the last WC, I believe it was Rohr's negotiation to move him (Mikel) to DM and to move Vic Moses to WB that angered both Mikel and Vic Mo. It is believed that it precipitated Vic Mo's retirement and Mikel's absence from the team for a while.
Nope. Not true. Rohr moves him to CM...With Ndidi on the field and Etebo, he was never DM. The contention was if Iwobi should be the AM while Mikel should be the CM. That’s what angered him.

First game: Mikel was AM
2nd and third games: CM

So I say again....Mikel has never played DM for Nigeria. So why would we force him into an XI doing just that???

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1naija wrote:
deanotito wrote:My problem with people who add Mikel to Nigeria’s best XI is what position they are putting him in. Most people choose JJ as the 10 but put Mikel in a midfield position and also choose 2 wingers...so that implies that Mikel is the DM...BUT...when did Mikel ever play DM for Nigeria? Which game? We cannot import Chelsea’s system and say this works for Nigeria. I never thought Chelsea’s style would work for Nigeria and we never really tried it. I for one could not choose Mikel as a DM over Oliseh, Ndidi...even Mutiu

The truth is that Mikel can’t make it into a Nigeria XI. He just can’t. No one would choose him over JJ, and our fondness for the 4-4-2 means his only slot is as DM...a position he never played for Nigeria. As in Never. In a 4-3-3, you could potentially make the argument for Mikel as the central midfielder, but that throws the entire team out of balance. In a 4-3-3, I wouldn’t be choosing people like Finidi and Odegbami. I’d be going more for the Amokachis and Amunekes (and maybe Kanu) of this world to partner a Rashidi Yekini

I WOULD!!!!!
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ANC wrote:
deanotito wrote:
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deanotito wrote:My problem with people who add Mikel to Nigeria’s best XI is what position they are putting him in. Most people choose JJ as the 10 but put Mikel in a midfield position and also choose 2 wingers...so that implies that Mikel is the DM...BUT...when did Mikel ever play DM for Nigeria? Which game? We cannot import Chelsea’s system and say this works for Nigeria. I never thought Chelsea’s style would work for Nigeria and we never really tried it. I for one could not choose Mikel as a DM over Oliseh, Ndidi...even Mutiu

The truth is that Mikel can’t make it into a Nigeria XI. He just can’t. No one would choose him over JJ, and our fondness for the 4-4-2 means his only slot is as DM...a position he never played for Nigeria. As in Never. In a 4-3-3, you could potentially make the argument for Mikel as the central midfielder, but that throws the entire team out of balance. In a 4-3-3, I wouldn’t be choosing people like Finidi and Odegbami. I’d be going more for the Amokachis and Amunekes (and maybe Kanu) of this world to partner a Rashidi Yekini
deanotito,

You can claim that he rarely played as DM for Nigeria but stating that he NEVER did, as far as I recollect, will be inaccurate. In fact, at the last WC, I believe it was Rohr's negotiation to move him (Mikel) to DM and to move Vic Moses to WB that angered both Mikel and Vic Mo. It is believed that it precipitated Vic Mo's retirement and Mikel's absence from the team for a while.
Nope. Not true. Rohr moves him to CM...With Ndidi on the field and Etebo, he was never DM. The contention was if Iwobi should be the AM while Mikel should be the CM. That’s what angered him.

First game: Mikel was AM
2nd and third games: CM

So I say again....Mikel has never played DM for Nigeria. So why would we force him into an XI doing just that???

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Facts please. What game? I will recant if I am wrong. But as Enugu II has alluded to, even if I am wrong, it would be a change from “never” to “rarely”...and the larger point still stands.

But let me know the game
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deanotito wrote:
ANC wrote:
deanotito wrote:
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deanotito wrote:My problem with people who add Mikel to Nigeria’s best XI is what position they are putting him in. Most people choose JJ as the 10 but put Mikel in a midfield position and also choose 2 wingers...so that implies that Mikel is the DM...BUT...when did Mikel ever play DM for Nigeria? Which game? We cannot import Chelsea’s system and say this works for Nigeria. I never thought Chelsea’s style would work for Nigeria and we never really tried it. I for one could not choose Mikel as a DM over Oliseh, Ndidi...even Mutiu

The truth is that Mikel can’t make it into a Nigeria XI. He just can’t. No one would choose him over JJ, and our fondness for the 4-4-2 means his only slot is as DM...a position he never played for Nigeria. As in Never. In a 4-3-3, you could potentially make the argument for Mikel as the central midfielder, but that throws the entire team out of balance. In a 4-3-3, I wouldn’t be choosing people like Finidi and Odegbami. I’d be going more for the Amokachis and Amunekes (and maybe Kanu) of this world to partner a Rashidi Yekini
deanotito,

You can claim that he rarely played as DM for Nigeria but stating that he NEVER did, as far as I recollect, will be inaccurate. In fact, at the last WC, I believe it was Rohr's negotiation to move him (Mikel) to DM and to move Vic Moses to WB that angered both Mikel and Vic Mo. It is believed that it precipitated Vic Mo's retirement and Mikel's absence from the team for a while.
Nope. Not true. Rohr moves him to CM...With Ndidi on the field and Etebo, he was never DM. The contention was if Iwobi should be the AM while Mikel should be the CM. That’s what angered him.

First game: Mikel was AM
2nd and third games: CM

So I say again....Mikel has never played DM for Nigeria. So why would we force him into an XI doing just that???

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Facts please. What game? I will recant if I am wrong. But as Enugu II has alluded to, even if I am wrong, it would be a change from “never” to “rarely”...and the larger point still stands.

But let me know the game

During the WC, Rohr pleaded with both, Mikel and V.moses to play the roles which they play at Chelsea;RWB and DM;
Nigeria won that game.
it was a must win game.
I forgot which one though, likely the second group stage game.
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ANC wrote:
deanotito wrote:
ANC wrote:
deanotito wrote:
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deanotito wrote:My problem with people who add Mikel to Nigeria’s best XI is what position they are putting him in. Most people choose JJ as the 10 but put Mikel in a midfield position and also choose 2 wingers...so that implies that Mikel is the DM...BUT...when did Mikel ever play DM for Nigeria? Which game? We cannot import Chelsea’s system and say this works for Nigeria. I never thought Chelsea’s style would work for Nigeria and we never really tried it. I for one could not choose Mikel as a DM over Oliseh, Ndidi...even Mutiu

The truth is that Mikel can’t make it into a Nigeria XI. He just can’t. No one would choose him over JJ, and our fondness for the 4-4-2 means his only slot is as DM...a position he never played for Nigeria. As in Never. In a 4-3-3, you could potentially make the argument for Mikel as the central midfielder, but that throws the entire team out of balance. In a 4-3-3, I wouldn’t be choosing people like Finidi and Odegbami. I’d be going more for the Amokachis and Amunekes (and maybe Kanu) of this world to partner a Rashidi Yekini
deanotito,

You can claim that he rarely played as DM for Nigeria but stating that he NEVER did, as far as I recollect, will be inaccurate. In fact, at the last WC, I believe it was Rohr's negotiation to move him (Mikel) to DM and to move Vic Moses to WB that angered both Mikel and Vic Mo. It is believed that it precipitated Vic Mo's retirement and Mikel's absence from the team for a while.
Nope. Not true. Rohr moves him to CM...With Ndidi on the field and Etebo, he was never DM. The contention was if Iwobi should be the AM while Mikel should be the CM. That’s what angered him.

First game: Mikel was AM
2nd and third games: CM

So I say again....Mikel has never played DM for Nigeria. So why would we force him into an XI doing just that???

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Facts please. What game? I will recant if I am wrong. But as Enugu II has alluded to, even if I am wrong, it would be a change from “never” to “rarely”...and the larger point still stands.

But let me know the game

During the WC, Rohr pleaded with both, Mikel and V.moses to play the roles which they play at Chelsea;RWB and DM;
Nigeria won that game.
it was a must win game.
I forgot which one though, likely the second group stage game.
No. That was not the issue. The contention was that Mikel could not be the creative force. I said it after the first game. And many others did as well. And he was switched to a deeper role. I was in the stadium. At no time was Mikel the DM. Deeper does not mean DM.

What you people are contending is that in a midfield with Mikel, Etebo and Ndidi, Mikel was the DM???

I know that is patently false because I was there. But besides what I saw, what angel* coach would do that? You make Mikel DM and Ndidi AM or CM?
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I was not at the game, but it was reported in the media that the coach asked both players to switch roles.
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How many key assists did Mikel provide for the SE in all his playing career?
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ANC wrote:I was not at the game, but it was reported in the media that the coach asked both players to switch roles.
That was not what was reported by the media to the best of my knowledge. I saw no single media report saying Mikel was switched to DM. What was said was that Mikel was not a number 10 and Rohr eventully consented to not playing him in that role.

But forget the media. Even if you weren’t at the stadium. You watched it on TV. Did it appear to you that Mikel played DM???
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Tobi17 wrote:How many key assists did Mikel provide for the SE in all his playing career?
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ANC wrote:I was not at the game, but it was reported in the media that the coach asked both players to switch roles.
That was not what was reported by the media to the best of my knowledge. I saw no single media report saying Mikel was switched to DM. What was said was that Mikel was not a number 10 and Rohr eventully consented to not playing him in that role.

But forget the media. Even if you weren’t at the stadium. You watched it on TV. Did it appear to you that Mikel played DM???
deanotito,

Here are two tactical analyses that stress the position played by Mikel:

https://footballbh.net/2018/06/25/nigeria-2-0-iceland/
https://totalfootballanalysis.com/match ... vs-iceland

Enjoy.

Further, here is what was reported by the media before the game.
Mikel: I’ll Sacrifice, Play Defensive Midfield For Super Eagles Success
https://www.completesports.com/mikel-il ... s-success/
25 June 20, 2018 5:44 pm

Super Eagles captain Mikel Obi has promised to do whatever it takes to ensure the team advance into the latter stages of the Russia 2018 World Cup, Completesportsnigeria.com reports.

The Eagles are currently bottom of their group and must beat Iceland on Friday to keep hopes alive.


The Nigerian side lost their opening match 2-0 to Croatia while debutants Iceland held group favourites Argentina to a 1-1 draw.


Mikel, playing in an advanced midfield role, was one of the Super Eagles’ worst performers on Saturday, with many fans calling for him to be subsequently dropped or given a withdrawn role.

Even former Nigeria captain Austin Jay Jay Okocha advised coach Gernot Rohr to either drop Mikel or make him play deeper.

When asked about playing in defensive midfield on Wednesday, Mikel said: “If I have to sacrifice for this team to progress, I will.

“If I have to sacrifice a position, go play wherever, I will do that for this team to win games.”

Mikel played as a defensive midfielder for most of his successful 11-year stay at Chelsea but has often been deployed further upfield for the national team.

Mikel’s former coach at Chelsea Jose Mourinho has also advised that the Nigeria captain should be a ‘number 6’, a defensive midfielder.

Below, is how I saw that game (v Iceland) on television in terms of how Mikel played (Read the rating section)

https://eaglecity.blogspot.com/2018/06/ ... -hope.html
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deanotito what did you say about cybereagles members not knowing anything about football?
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Moses better than Finidi.??? :o People have started sniffing too much glue here.
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ANC wrote:deanotito what did you say about cybereagles members not knowing anything about football?

I haven’t even read Enugu’s links but I am pretty sure in my near 20 year association with CE, I have never said CE members do not know anything about football. I don’t think I’ve ever even uttered words close to that. There’s always the odd ignoramous, but to make a generalization like that??naah

Enugu, I will click your links and rebut when I have less wine in my system than I do now :lol:


But the larger point stands. I contend that Mikel has never played DM for Nigeria but even if he has, it’s in a very small minority of his games. Is your point that in those games, Mikel was masterful enough to displace Oliseh/Ndidi in an Eagles XI??? Impossible. People slot Mikel into an Eagles XI because they can’t deal with the fact that the most celebrated club footballer really doesn’t merit making into our all time squad.
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Yisa Sofoluwe > Moses
Ademola Adesina > Mikel
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Victor Moses in Super Eagles All Time XI
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Former Chelsea player Victor Moses makes my first eleven in my All-Time Green/Super Eagles team I was asked to select by Temisan Okomi on twitter. A team that seems to have stirred controversy with followers on the Social Media app.
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Since 1960, if you had to choose your Super Eagles/Green Eagles XI, with a substitute bench, who would you put in it?
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I decided to have a go and here is my team:

Enyeama; Okechukwu, Chukwu, Odiye; Moses, Keshi, Oliseh, Owolabi; Odegbami, Yekini, Okocha.
Subs: Okala; H Nwosu, Yobo, Kanu, Ekeji.
Coach: Westerhof
Formation: 3-4-3


As I started to think about the players who have won the Green-White-Green of Nigeria from when I can remember – which will be from 1977 to date, it had me stumped first.

Anytime I get asked this question I always try to think as a coach and a formation that can be used in a real match situation. I decided to go for a 3-4-3 formation.

Vincent Enyeama: I saw Emma Okala, Best Ogedegbe, Peter Rufai and a few others keep goal for Nigeria but there was none as consistent as Vinny. In the years I watched him closely, I can’t remember any goal the Super Eagles conceded in which I thought “Vinny could and should have done better there”. That is a special quality.

I chose three centre-backs:

Uche Okechukwu: Between 1989 and 1998 “Big Igbo” (as Westerhof used to call him) was the best Nigerian defender of that generation of Nigerian players. He was unbeatable in the air, tackled fiercely and led his men. He was also a very reader of the game which meant he rarely ever had to go on the floor to win balls.

Christian Chukwu: The first SI Unit of measuring defenders for the Nigeria national team. Took over from Godwin Achebe as the Green Eagles captain in 1975 holding the band till after captaining Nigeria to our first AFCON win in 1980. He was a leader, scoring goals for club and country.

Godwin Odiye: Famous for that own goal in November 1977 as the Green Eagles failed in the campaign to qualify for the 1978 Argentina based FIFA World Cup. Alongside Chukwu, Odiye was incredibly quick, tackled and headed anything that moved. Played for Nigeria at three AFCONs between 1976 and 1980. He speaks candidly here:

I chose four players ahead of the CBs two of who will be wing backs.

Victor Moses: His inclusion is what has caused consternation and has probably led to this blog. In the wing back role that I have chosen for this team to play, I can only give it to Moses. In South Africa when the Super Eagles won the AFCON in 2013 he was vital in the win as a free forward across the front line. In Brazil he contributed his bit with the team that eventually fell to France in the second round. Four years later, Moses was influential as the Super Eagles qualified from a tough qualifying group to make Russia. Played in the wing back role in Russia.

Felix Owolabi: AFCON ’80 winner, Owo Blow played in every role down that left hand side for the Green Eagles. He would be at home as Left back, Inside left or as left winger. He has the energy to play as a wing back and the defensive nous to cover for who will be the nominal left sided player.

Stephen Keshi. Another leader. The Big Boss was at home in central midfield as he would be as centre-back. He and Chukwu would not have been an ideal partnership at CB hence my moving him into midfield where he will form a double pivot with

Sunday Oliseh: Oliseh made his debut in 1993 and held his role till the end of AFCON 2002. He was the one who redefined the role for the Super Eagles after Westerhof had tried Austin Eguavoen and Emeka Ezeugo without much success in the role. Oliseh had it all in that role.

Austin Okocha takes the nominal role of being in the hole behind the two strikers. It was straight battle between Okocha and Henry Nwosu, in the end I plumped for JJ because he was pure magic and in tight situations he could be counted upon to produce a rabbit out of a hat.

Segun Odegbami: Nigeria’s first football superstar and the best player as Nigeria won the AFCON on home soil in 1980 would make any team of all time for anyone who saw him play. I had written about Odegbami in this article

Rashidi Yekini: Nigeria’s all-time leading goalscorer. Goalsfather needs little introduction as without him it would have been extremely difficult to qualify for our first world cup in 1994. He was the top scorer as we won the AFCON in Tunisia in 1994 and was Nigeria’s first African Footballer of the year in 1993.

The team will be coached by Clemens Westerhof. Here is an extensive interview with the former Super Eagles manager

With the team and formation I decided to go with, I have had to leave out Finidi George, Humphrey Edobor, Adokiye Amiesimaka, Emma Amuneke, Ben Iroha, Austin Eguavoen, Henry Nwosu, Patrick Ekeji and many many more. I have chosen a team to play.

Haruna Ilerika – he spoke to us here too , Thompson Usiyan I was too young to have watched them. Usiyan interview

Please feel free to let me know your thoughts.
No Finidi or Mikel? Nonsense. :boo:
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Re: Victor Moses Named in Nigeria's All-Time XI

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deanotito wrote:
Enugu II wrote:
deanotito wrote:My problem with people who add Mikel to Nigeria’s best XI is what position they are putting him in. Most people choose JJ as the 10 but put Mikel in a midfield position and also choose 2 wingers...so that implies that Mikel is the DM...BUT...when did Mikel ever play DM for Nigeria? Which game? We cannot import Chelsea’s system and say this works for Nigeria. I never thought Chelsea’s style would work for Nigeria and we never really tried it. I for one could not choose Mikel as a DM over Oliseh, Ndidi...even Mutiu

The truth is that Mikel can’t make it into a Nigeria XI. He just can’t. No one would choose him over JJ, and our fondness for the 4-4-2 means his only slot is as DM...a position he never played for Nigeria. As in Never. In a 4-3-3, you could potentially make the argument for Mikel as the central midfielder, but that throws the entire team out of balance. In a 4-3-3, I wouldn’t be choosing people like Finidi and Odegbami. I’d be going more for the Amokachis and Amunekes (and maybe Kanu) of this world to partner a Rashidi Yekini
deanotito,

You can claim that he rarely played as DM for Nigeria but stating that he NEVER did, as far as I recollect, will be inaccurate. In fact, at the last WC, I believe it was Rohr's negotiation to move him (Mikel) to DM and to move Vic Moses to WB that angered both Mikel and Vic Mo. It is believed that it precipitated Vic Mo's retirement and Mikel's absence from the team for a while.
Nope. Not true. Rohr moved him to CM...With Ndidi on the field and Etebo, he was never DM. The contention was if Iwobi should be the AM while Mikel should be the CM. That’s what angered Mikel. He wanted the AM role but in the first game, was largely ineffective in it.

First game: Mikel was AM
2nd and third games: CM

So I say again....Mikel has never played DM for Nigeria. So why would we force him into an XI doing just that???
Nope. Mikel was the holding midfielder against Iceland and Argentina after Rohr switched to 352. No need to revise history. Go and rewatch the footage. Mikel also played holding midfield in some competitive games for Berti Vogts.
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I will base this on players I saw play and sorry Keshi does not make the list for me, granted I saw him in the twilight of his career but I though he was clumsy on the ball:

-------------Enyeama---------------------------

Babayaro…….Taribo…...Okechukwu…….Iroha


Adepoju -------Okocha------------Oliseh

Finidi ------Yekini------------Odegbami

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