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1naija wrote:
ohenhen1 wrote:Chukwuze is already better than V Moses.

The auditor or editor need to edit the article and remove V Moses name.

Has weed been legalized in your area? Chukwueze better than victor moses????
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Akure4Life wrote:Mudasiru Lawal did not make his list

:boo: :boo: :boo:

KPOM. That is the only missing name that made me shake ,my head ooo!
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Enugu II wrote:
Akure4Life wrote:Mudasiru Lawal did not make his list

:boo: :boo: :boo:

KPOM. That is the only missing name that made me shake ,my head ooo!
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Bigpokey24 wrote:
1naija wrote:
ohenhen1 wrote:Chukwuze is already better than V Moses.

The auditor or editor need to edit the article and remove V Moses name.

Has weed been legalized in your area? Chukwueze better than victor moses????
yes weed is now legal in COlorado

Ohenhen1,

Bros, you must be in Lala land. Chukwueze better than Vic Mo? Incredibleee! Now, this is not to say that Chukwueze cannot be better in the future but right now the comparison is a serious INSULT. What exactly has Chukwueze done for Nigeria? Vic Mo basically was one of two key figures that helped win the AFCON 2013 and he took Nigeria to the 2018 WC. Please let me know what Chukwueze has done?
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Akure4Life wrote:Mudasiru Lawal did not make his list

:boo: :boo: :boo:

After intense research and evaluation of the 70s and 80s Green Eagles, the only player from that era that will make modern day SE 11 is Okala. Even Simon Moses is way ahead of Odegbami. Christain Chukwu's backman tactics would have led to several penalties against us.

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1naija wrote:
Akure4Life wrote:Mudasiru Lawal did not make his list

:boo: :boo: :boo:

After intense research and evaluation of the 70s and 80s Green Eagles, the only player from that era that will make modern day SE 11 is Okala. Even Simon Moses is way ahead of Odegbami. Christain Chukwu's backman tactics would have led to several penalties against us.

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KPOM! Simon Moses is better and feared across the entire continent of Africa & beyond.

That's how I told someone after intense research assisted by kaikai that Semi Ajayi is way better than Joseph Yobo and he said I'm a football illiterate. Nonsense :boo:
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Cellular wrote:
Enugu II wrote:
Victor Moses in Super Eagles All Time XI
https://www.aclsports.com/victor-moses- ... l-time-xi/
Calvin Emeka Onwuka January 12, 2020Blogs, Football,

Former Chelsea player Victor Moses makes my first eleven in my All-Time Green/Super Eagles team I was asked to select by Temisan Okomi on twitter. A team that seems to have stirred controversy with followers on the Social Media app.
________________
Since 1960, if you had to choose your Super Eagles/Green Eagles XI, with a substitute bench, who would you put in it?
________________

I decided to have a go and here is my team:

Enyeama; Okechukwu, Chukwu, Odiye; Moses, Keshi, Oliseh, Owolabi; Odegbami, Yekini, Okocha.
Subs: Okala; H Nwosu, Yobo, Kanu, Ekeji.
Coach: Westerhof
Formation: 3-4-3


As I started to think about the players who have won the Green-White-Green of Nigeria from when I can remember – which will be from 1977 to date, it had me stumped first.

Anytime I get asked this question I always try to think as a coach and a formation that can be used in a real match situation. I decided to go for a 3-4-3 formation.

Vincent Enyeama: I saw Emma Okala, Best Ogedegbe, Peter Rufai and a few others keep goal for Nigeria but there was none as consistent as Vinny. In the years I watched him closely, I can’t remember any goal the Super Eagles conceded in which I thought “Vinny could and should have done better there”. That is a special quality.

I chose three centre-backs:

Uche Okechukwu: Between 1989 and 1998 “Big Igbo” (as Westerhof used to call him) was the best Nigerian defender of that generation of Nigerian players. He was unbeatable in the air, tackled fiercely and led his men. He was also a very reader of the game which meant he rarely ever had to go on the floor to win balls.

Christian Chukwu: The first SI Unit of measuring defenders for the Nigeria national team. Took over from Godwin Achebe as the Green Eagles captain in 1975 holding the band till after captaining Nigeria to our first AFCON win in 1980. He was a leader, scoring goals for club and country.

Godwin Odiye: Famous for that own goal in November 1977 as the Green Eagles failed in the campaign to qualify for the 1978 Argentina based FIFA World Cup. Alongside Chukwu, Odiye was incredibly quick, tackled and headed anything that moved. Played for Nigeria at three AFCONs between 1976 and 1980. He speaks candidly here:

I chose four players ahead of the CBs two of who will be wing backs.

Victor Moses: His inclusion is what has caused consternation and has probably led to this blog. In the wing back role that I have chosen for this team to play, I can only give it to Moses. In South Africa when the Super Eagles won the AFCON in 2013 he was vital in the win as a free forward across the front line. In Brazil he contributed his bit with the team that eventually fell to France in the second round. Four years later, Moses was influential as the Super Eagles qualified from a tough qualifying group to make Russia. Played in the wing back role in Russia.

Felix Owolabi: AFCON ’80 winner, Owo Blow played in every role down that left hand side for the Green Eagles. He would be at home as Left back, Inside left or as left winger. He has the energy to play as a wing back and the defensive nous to cover for who will be the nominal left sided player.

Stephen Keshi. Another leader. The Big Boss was at home in central midfield as he would be as centre-back. He and Chukwu would not have been an ideal partnership at CB hence my moving him into midfield where he will form a double pivot with

Sunday Oliseh: Oliseh made his debut in 1993 and held his role till the end of AFCON 2002. He was the one who redefined the role for the Super Eagles after Westerhof had tried Austin Eguavoen and Emeka Ezeugo without much success in the role. Oliseh had it all in that role.

Austin Okocha takes the nominal role of being in the hole behind the two strikers. It was straight battle between Okocha and Henry Nwosu, in the end I plumped for JJ because he was pure magic and in tight situations he could be counted upon to produce a rabbit out of a hat.

Segun Odegbami: Nigeria’s first football superstar and the best player as Nigeria won the AFCON on home soil in 1980 would make any team of all time for anyone who saw him play. I had written about Odegbami in this article

Rashidi Yekini: Nigeria’s all-time leading goalscorer. Goalsfather needs little introduction as without him it would have been extremely difficult to qualify for our first world cup in 1994. He was the top scorer as we won the AFCON in Tunisia in 1994 and was Nigeria’s first African Footballer of the year in 1993.

The team will be coached by Clemens Westerhof. Here is an extensive interview with the former Super Eagles manager

With the team and formation I decided to go with, I have had to leave out Finidi George, Humphrey Edobor, Adokiye Amiesimaka, Emma Amuneke, Ben Iroha, Austin Eguavoen, Henry Nwosu, Patrick Ekeji and many many more. I have chosen a team to play.

Haruna Ilerika – he spoke to us here too , Thompson Usiyan I was too young to have watched them. Usiyan interview

Please feel free to let me know your thoughts.
I remember that we went through this exercise.

Interesting that he chose 3-4-3 and chose Westerhoff when there's no history of Westerhoff playing that system. The team should be 4-4-2.

Even with his 3-4-3 formation. As a wing-back, was VicMo better than Babachampagneyaro? Or even Iroha?
Chief Justice was a better left winger than Amuneke.

Finidi deserves to be on the list before VicMo.
Finidi was a two-way player. He started off as a defender before transitioning to a winger.

There's NO single aspect of VicMo's game that he is better than Finidi. None.
4-4-2 With Amodu as Coach.

1. Enyeama
2. Okpalla
3. Yisa Sofoluwe
4. Muda Lawal
5. Christian Chukwu
6. Stephen Keshi
7. Segun Odegbami
8. Mudashiru Lawal
9. Rashidi Yekini
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Enyeama over Okalla?

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Cellular wrote:
Cellular wrote:
Enugu II wrote:
Victor Moses in Super Eagles All Time XI
https://www.aclsports.com/victor-moses- ... l-time-xi/
Calvin Emeka Onwuka January 12, 2020Blogs, Football,

Former Chelsea player Victor Moses makes my first eleven in my All-Time Green/Super Eagles team I was asked to select by Temisan Okomi on twitter. A team that seems to have stirred controversy with followers on the Social Media app.
________________
Since 1960, if you had to choose your Super Eagles/Green Eagles XI, with a substitute bench, who would you put in it?
________________

I decided to have a go and here is my team:

Enyeama; Okechukwu, Chukwu, Odiye; Moses, Keshi, Oliseh, Owolabi; Odegbami, Yekini, Okocha.
Subs: Okala; H Nwosu, Yobo, Kanu, Ekeji.
Coach: Westerhof
Formation: 3-4-3


As I started to think about the players who have won the Green-White-Green of Nigeria from when I can remember – which will be from 1977 to date, it had me stumped first.

Anytime I get asked this question I always try to think as a coach and a formation that can be used in a real match situation. I decided to go for a 3-4-3 formation.

Vincent Enyeama: I saw Emma Okala, Best Ogedegbe, Peter Rufai and a few others keep goal for Nigeria but there was none as consistent as Vinny. In the years I watched him closely, I can’t remember any goal the Super Eagles conceded in which I thought “Vinny could and should have done better there”. That is a special quality.

I chose three centre-backs:

Uche Okechukwu: Between 1989 and 1998 “Big Igbo” (as Westerhof used to call him) was the best Nigerian defender of that generation of Nigerian players. He was unbeatable in the air, tackled fiercely and led his men. He was also a very reader of the game which meant he rarely ever had to go on the floor to win balls.

Christian Chukwu: The first SI Unit of measuring defenders for the Nigeria national team. Took over from Godwin Achebe as the Green Eagles captain in 1975 holding the band till after captaining Nigeria to our first AFCON win in 1980. He was a leader, scoring goals for club and country.

Godwin Odiye: Famous for that own goal in November 1977 as the Green Eagles failed in the campaign to qualify for the 1978 Argentina based FIFA World Cup. Alongside Chukwu, Odiye was incredibly quick, tackled and headed anything that moved. Played for Nigeria at three AFCONs between 1976 and 1980. He speaks candidly here:

I chose four players ahead of the CBs two of who will be wing backs.

Victor Moses: His inclusion is what has caused consternation and has probably led to this blog. In the wing back role that I have chosen for this team to play, I can only give it to Moses. In South Africa when the Super Eagles won the AFCON in 2013 he was vital in the win as a free forward across the front line. In Brazil he contributed his bit with the team that eventually fell to France in the second round. Four years later, Moses was influential as the Super Eagles qualified from a tough qualifying group to make Russia. Played in the wing back role in Russia.

Felix Owolabi: AFCON ’80 winner, Owo Blow played in every role down that left hand side for the Green Eagles. He would be at home as Left back, Inside left or as left winger. He has the energy to play as a wing back and the defensive nous to cover for who will be the nominal left sided player.

Stephen Keshi. Another leader. The Big Boss was at home in central midfield as he would be as centre-back. He and Chukwu would not have been an ideal partnership at CB hence my moving him into midfield where he will form a double pivot with

Sunday Oliseh: Oliseh made his debut in 1993 and held his role till the end of AFCON 2002. He was the one who redefined the role for the Super Eagles after Westerhof had tried Austin Eguavoen and Emeka Ezeugo without much success in the role. Oliseh had it all in that role.

Austin Okocha takes the nominal role of being in the hole behind the two strikers. It was straight battle between Okocha and Henry Nwosu, in the end I plumped for JJ because he was pure magic and in tight situations he could be counted upon to produce a rabbit out of a hat.

Segun Odegbami: Nigeria’s first football superstar and the best player as Nigeria won the AFCON on home soil in 1980 would make any team of all time for anyone who saw him play. I had written about Odegbami in this article

Rashidi Yekini: Nigeria’s all-time leading goalscorer. Goalsfather needs little introduction as without him it would have been extremely difficult to qualify for our first world cup in 1994. He was the top scorer as we won the AFCON in Tunisia in 1994 and was Nigeria’s first African Footballer of the year in 1993.

The team will be coached by Clemens Westerhof. Here is an extensive interview with the former Super Eagles manager

With the team and formation I decided to go with, I have had to leave out Finidi George, Humphrey Edobor, Adokiye Amiesimaka, Emma Amuneke, Ben Iroha, Austin Eguavoen, Henry Nwosu, Patrick Ekeji and many many more. I have chosen a team to play.

Haruna Ilerika – he spoke to us here too , Thompson Usiyan I was too young to have watched them. Usiyan interview

Please feel free to let me know your thoughts.
I remember that we went through this exercise.

Interesting that he chose 3-4-3 and chose Westerhoff when there's no history of Westerhoff playing that system. The team should be 4-4-2.

Even with his 3-4-3 formation. As a wing-back, was VicMo better than Babachampagneyaro? Or even Iroha?
Chief Justice was a better left winger than Amuneke.

Finidi deserves to be on the list before VicMo.
Finidi was a two-way player. He started off as a defender before transitioning to a winger.

There's NO single aspect of VicMo's game that he is better than Finidi. None.
4-4-2 With Amodu as Coach.

1. Enyeama
2. Okpalla
3. Yisa Sofoluwe
4. Muda Lawal
5. Christian Chukwu
6. Stephen Keshi
7. Segun Odegbami
8. Mudashiru Lawal
9. Rashidi Yekini
10. JJ Okocha
11. Adokiye Amiesimaka

2 Mudas in a team of 11.

I guess what they are saying is true. Too many smokers here. Some already being blanked and not seeing clearly. :taunt: :taunt: :taunt: :taunt: :taunt: :taunt:

Abeg na yoke i dey yoke ooo :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

Seriously though if you must play Yekini in a 4-4-2 formation then Amokachi must be his foil. Playing Yekini without Amokachi in a 4-4-2 is like having a sword without its scaffold as they say.
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Enugu II wrote:
Akure4Life wrote:Mudasiru Lawal did not make his list

:boo: :boo: :boo:
KPOM. That is the only missing name that made me shake ,my head ooo!
Abeg there are just too many missing names from this your team. Even Muda vs Oliseh in the DM position is very debatable.
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azuka wrote:
Cellular wrote:
Cellular wrote:
Enugu II wrote:
Victor Moses in Super Eagles All Time XI
https://www.aclsports.com/victor-moses- ... l-time-xi/
Calvin Emeka Onwuka January 12, 2020Blogs, Football,

Former Chelsea player Victor Moses makes my first eleven in my All-Time Green/Super Eagles team I was asked to select by Temisan Okomi on twitter. A team that seems to have stirred controversy with followers on the Social Media app.
________________
Since 1960, if you had to choose your Super Eagles/Green Eagles XI, with a substitute bench, who would you put in it?
________________

I decided to have a go and here is my team:

Enyeama; Okechukwu, Chukwu, Odiye; Moses, Keshi, Oliseh, Owolabi; Odegbami, Yekini, Okocha.
Subs: Okala; H Nwosu, Yobo, Kanu, Ekeji.
Coach: Westerhof
Formation: 3-4-3


As I started to think about the players who have won the Green-White-Green of Nigeria from when I can remember – which will be from 1977 to date, it had me stumped first.

Anytime I get asked this question I always try to think as a coach and a formation that can be used in a real match situation. I decided to go for a 3-4-3 formation.

Vincent Enyeama: I saw Emma Okala, Best Ogedegbe, Peter Rufai and a few others keep goal for Nigeria but there was none as consistent as Vinny. In the years I watched him closely, I can’t remember any goal the Super Eagles conceded in which I thought “Vinny could and should have done better there”. That is a special quality.

I chose three centre-backs:

Uche Okechukwu: Between 1989 and 1998 “Big Igbo” (as Westerhof used to call him) was the best Nigerian defender of that generation of Nigerian players. He was unbeatable in the air, tackled fiercely and led his men. He was also a very reader of the game which meant he rarely ever had to go on the floor to win balls.

Christian Chukwu: The first SI Unit of measuring defenders for the Nigeria national team. Took over from Godwin Achebe as the Green Eagles captain in 1975 holding the band till after captaining Nigeria to our first AFCON win in 1980. He was a leader, scoring goals for club and country.

Godwin Odiye: Famous for that own goal in November 1977 as the Green Eagles failed in the campaign to qualify for the 1978 Argentina based FIFA World Cup. Alongside Chukwu, Odiye was incredibly quick, tackled and headed anything that moved. Played for Nigeria at three AFCONs between 1976 and 1980. He speaks candidly here:

I chose four players ahead of the CBs two of who will be wing backs.

Victor Moses: His inclusion is what has caused consternation and has probably led to this blog. In the wing back role that I have chosen for this team to play, I can only give it to Moses. In South Africa when the Super Eagles won the AFCON in 2013 he was vital in the win as a free forward across the front line. In Brazil he contributed his bit with the team that eventually fell to France in the second round. Four years later, Moses was influential as the Super Eagles qualified from a tough qualifying group to make Russia. Played in the wing back role in Russia.

Felix Owolabi: AFCON ’80 winner, Owo Blow played in every role down that left hand side for the Green Eagles. He would be at home as Left back, Inside left or as left winger. He has the energy to play as a wing back and the defensive nous to cover for who will be the nominal left sided player.

Stephen Keshi. Another leader. The Big Boss was at home in central midfield as he would be as centre-back. He and Chukwu would not have been an ideal partnership at CB hence my moving him into midfield where he will form a double pivot with

Sunday Oliseh: Oliseh made his debut in 1993 and held his role till the end of AFCON 2002. He was the one who redefined the role for the Super Eagles after Westerhof had tried Austin Eguavoen and Emeka Ezeugo without much success in the role. Oliseh had it all in that role.

Austin Okocha takes the nominal role of being in the hole behind the two strikers. It was straight battle between Okocha and Henry Nwosu, in the end I plumped for JJ because he was pure magic and in tight situations he could be counted upon to produce a rabbit out of a hat.

Segun Odegbami: Nigeria’s first football superstar and the best player as Nigeria won the AFCON on home soil in 1980 would make any team of all time for anyone who saw him play. I had written about Odegbami in this article

Rashidi Yekini: Nigeria’s all-time leading goalscorer. Goalsfather needs little introduction as without him it would have been extremely difficult to qualify for our first world cup in 1994. He was the top scorer as we won the AFCON in Tunisia in 1994 and was Nigeria’s first African Footballer of the year in 1993.

The team will be coached by Clemens Westerhof. Here is an extensive interview with the former Super Eagles manager

With the team and formation I decided to go with, I have had to leave out Finidi George, Humphrey Edobor, Adokiye Amiesimaka, Emma Amuneke, Ben Iroha, Austin Eguavoen, Henry Nwosu, Patrick Ekeji and many many more. I have chosen a team to play.

Haruna Ilerika – he spoke to us here too , Thompson Usiyan I was too young to have watched them. Usiyan interview

Please feel free to let me know your thoughts.
I remember that we went through this exercise.

Interesting that he chose 3-4-3 and chose Westerhoff when there's no history of Westerhoff playing that system. The team should be 4-4-2.

Even with his 3-4-3 formation. As a wing-back, was VicMo better than Babachampagneyaro? Or even Iroha?
Chief Justice was a better left winger than Amuneke.

Finidi deserves to be on the list before VicMo.
Finidi was a two-way player. He started off as a defender before transitioning to a winger.

There's NO single aspect of VicMo's game that he is better than Finidi. None.
4-4-2 With Amodu as Coach.

1. Enyeama
2. Okpalla
3. Yisa Sofoluwe
4. Muda Lawal
5. Christian Chukwu
6. Stephen Keshi
7. Segun Odegbami
8. Mudashiru Lawal
9. Rashidi Yekini
10. JJ Okocha
11. Adokiye Amiesimaka

2 Mudas in a team of 11.

I guess what they are saying is true. Too many smokers here. Some already being blanked and not seeing clearly. :taunt: :taunt: :taunt: :taunt: :taunt: :taunt:

Abeg na yoke i dey yoke ooo :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

Seriously though if you must play Yekini in a 4-4-2 formation then Amokachi must be his foil. Playing Yekini without Amokachi in a 4-4-2 is like having a sword without its scaffold as they say.
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1naija wrote:
azuka wrote:
Cellular wrote:
Cellular wrote:
Enugu II wrote:
Victor Moses in Super Eagles All Time XI
https://www.aclsports.com/victor-moses- ... l-time-xi/
Calvin Emeka Onwuka January 12, 2020Blogs, Football,

Former Chelsea player Victor Moses makes my first eleven in my All-Time Green/Super Eagles team I was asked to select by Temisan Okomi on twitter. A team that seems to have stirred controversy with followers on the Social Media app.
________________
Since 1960, if you had to choose your Super Eagles/Green Eagles XI, with a substitute bench, who would you put in it?
________________

I decided to have a go and here is my team:

Enyeama; Okechukwu, Chukwu, Odiye; Moses, Keshi, Oliseh, Owolabi; Odegbami, Yekini, Okocha.
Subs: Okala; H Nwosu, Yobo, Kanu, Ekeji.
Coach: Westerhof
Formation: 3-4-3


As I started to think about the players who have won the Green-White-Green of Nigeria from when I can remember – which will be from 1977 to date, it had me stumped first.

Anytime I get asked this question I always try to think as a coach and a formation that can be used in a real match situation. I decided to go for a 3-4-3 formation.

Vincent Enyeama: I saw Emma Okala, Best Ogedegbe, Peter Rufai and a few others keep goal for Nigeria but there was none as consistent as Vinny. In the years I watched him closely, I can’t remember any goal the Super Eagles conceded in which I thought “Vinny could and should have done better there”. That is a special quality.

I chose three centre-backs:

Uche Okechukwu: Between 1989 and 1998 “Big Igbo” (as Westerhof used to call him) was the best Nigerian defender of that generation of Nigerian players. He was unbeatable in the air, tackled fiercely and led his men. He was also a very reader of the game which meant he rarely ever had to go on the floor to win balls.

Christian Chukwu: The first SI Unit of measuring defenders for the Nigeria national team. Took over from Godwin Achebe as the Green Eagles captain in 1975 holding the band till after captaining Nigeria to our first AFCON win in 1980. He was a leader, scoring goals for club and country.

Godwin Odiye: Famous for that own goal in November 1977 as the Green Eagles failed in the campaign to qualify for the 1978 Argentina based FIFA World Cup. Alongside Chukwu, Odiye was incredibly quick, tackled and headed anything that moved. Played for Nigeria at three AFCONs between 1976 and 1980. He speaks candidly here:

I chose four players ahead of the CBs two of who will be wing backs.

Victor Moses: His inclusion is what has caused consternation and has probably led to this blog. In the wing back role that I have chosen for this team to play, I can only give it to Moses. In South Africa when the Super Eagles won the AFCON in 2013 he was vital in the win as a free forward across the front line. In Brazil he contributed his bit with the team that eventually fell to France in the second round. Four years later, Moses was influential as the Super Eagles qualified from a tough qualifying group to make Russia. Played in the wing back role in Russia.

Felix Owolabi: AFCON ’80 winner, Owo Blow played in every role down that left hand side for the Green Eagles. He would be at home as Left back, Inside left or as left winger. He has the energy to play as a wing back and the defensive nous to cover for who will be the nominal left sided player.

Stephen Keshi. Another leader. The Big Boss was at home in central midfield as he would be as centre-back. He and Chukwu would not have been an ideal partnership at CB hence my moving him into midfield where he will form a double pivot with

Sunday Oliseh: Oliseh made his debut in 1993 and held his role till the end of AFCON 2002. He was the one who redefined the role for the Super Eagles after Westerhof had tried Austin Eguavoen and Emeka Ezeugo without much success in the role. Oliseh had it all in that role.

Austin Okocha takes the nominal role of being in the hole behind the two strikers. It was straight battle between Okocha and Henry Nwosu, in the end I plumped for JJ because he was pure magic and in tight situations he could be counted upon to produce a rabbit out of a hat.

Segun Odegbami: Nigeria’s first football superstar and the best player as Nigeria won the AFCON on home soil in 1980 would make any team of all time for anyone who saw him play. I had written about Odegbami in this article

Rashidi Yekini: Nigeria’s all-time leading goalscorer. Goalsfather needs little introduction as without him it would have been extremely difficult to qualify for our first world cup in 1994. He was the top scorer as we won the AFCON in Tunisia in 1994 and was Nigeria’s first African Footballer of the year in 1993.

The team will be coached by Clemens Westerhof. Here is an extensive interview with the former Super Eagles manager

With the team and formation I decided to go with, I have had to leave out Finidi George, Humphrey Edobor, Adokiye Amiesimaka, Emma Amuneke, Ben Iroha, Austin Eguavoen, Henry Nwosu, Patrick Ekeji and many many more. I have chosen a team to play.

Haruna Ilerika – he spoke to us here too , Thompson Usiyan I was too young to have watched them. Usiyan interview

Please feel free to let me know your thoughts.
I remember that we went through this exercise.

Interesting that he chose 3-4-3 and chose Westerhoff when there's no history of Westerhoff playing that system. The team should be 4-4-2.

Even with his 3-4-3 formation. As a wing-back, was VicMo better than Babachampagneyaro? Or even Iroha?
Chief Justice was a better left winger than Amuneke.

Finidi deserves to be on the list before VicMo.
Finidi was a two-way player. He started off as a defender before transitioning to a winger.

There's NO single aspect of VicMo's game that he is better than Finidi. None.
4-4-2 With Amodu as Coach.

1. Enyeama
2. Okpalla
3. Yisa Sofoluwe
4. Muda Lawal
5. Christian Chukwu
6. Stephen Keshi
7. Segun Odegbami
8. Mudashiru Lawal
9. Rashidi Yekini
10. JJ Okocha
11. Adokiye Amiesimaka

2 Mudas in a team of 11.

I guess what they are saying is true. Too many smokers here. Some already being blanked and not seeing clearly. :taunt: :taunt: :taunt: :taunt: :taunt: :taunt:

Abeg na yoke i dey yoke ooo :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

Seriously though if you must play Yekini in a 4-4-2 formation then Amokachi must be his foil. Playing Yekini without Amokachi in a 4-4-2 is like having a sword without its scaffold as they say.
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txj wrote:Enyeama over Okalla?

too many weed smokers here....I warned about legalizing pot...

Txj,

Bia, are you stating you will take Okala over Enyeama? On this, I am with Cellular. Enyeama over Okala for me.
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azuka wrote:
Cellular wrote:
Cellular wrote:
Enugu II wrote:
Victor Moses in Super Eagles All Time XI
https://www.aclsports.com/victor-moses- ... l-time-xi/
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Former Chelsea player Victor Moses makes my first eleven in my All-Time Green/Super Eagles team I was asked to select by Temisan Okomi on twitter. A team that seems to have stirred controversy with followers on the Social Media app.
________________
Since 1960, if you had to choose your Super Eagles/Green Eagles XI, with a substitute bench, who would you put in it?
________________

I decided to have a go and here is my team:

Enyeama; Okechukwu, Chukwu, Odiye; Moses, Keshi, Oliseh, Owolabi; Odegbami, Yekini, Okocha.
Subs: Okala; H Nwosu, Yobo, Kanu, Ekeji.
Coach: Westerhof
Formation: 3-4-3


As I started to think about the players who have won the Green-White-Green of Nigeria from when I can remember – which will be from 1977 to date, it had me stumped first.

Anytime I get asked this question I always try to think as a coach and a formation that can be used in a real match situation. I decided to go for a 3-4-3 formation.

Vincent Enyeama: I saw Emma Okala, Best Ogedegbe, Peter Rufai and a few others keep goal for Nigeria but there was none as consistent as Vinny. In the years I watched him closely, I can’t remember any goal the Super Eagles conceded in which I thought “Vinny could and should have done better there”. That is a special quality.

I chose three centre-backs:

Uche Okechukwu: Between 1989 and 1998 “Big Igbo” (as Westerhof used to call him) was the best Nigerian defender of that generation of Nigerian players. He was unbeatable in the air, tackled fiercely and led his men. He was also a very reader of the game which meant he rarely ever had to go on the floor to win balls.

Christian Chukwu: The first SI Unit of measuring defenders for the Nigeria national team. Took over from Godwin Achebe as the Green Eagles captain in 1975 holding the band till after captaining Nigeria to our first AFCON win in 1980. He was a leader, scoring goals for club and country.

Godwin Odiye: Famous for that own goal in November 1977 as the Green Eagles failed in the campaign to qualify for the 1978 Argentina based FIFA World Cup. Alongside Chukwu, Odiye was incredibly quick, tackled and headed anything that moved. Played for Nigeria at three AFCONs between 1976 and 1980. He speaks candidly here:

I chose four players ahead of the CBs two of who will be wing backs.

Victor Moses: His inclusion is what has caused consternation and has probably led to this blog. In the wing back role that I have chosen for this team to play, I can only give it to Moses. In South Africa when the Super Eagles won the AFCON in 2013 he was vital in the win as a free forward across the front line. In Brazil he contributed his bit with the team that eventually fell to France in the second round. Four years later, Moses was influential as the Super Eagles qualified from a tough qualifying group to make Russia. Played in the wing back role in Russia.

Felix Owolabi: AFCON ’80 winner, Owo Blow played in every role down that left hand side for the Green Eagles. He would be at home as Left back, Inside left or as left winger. He has the energy to play as a wing back and the defensive nous to cover for who will be the nominal left sided player.

Stephen Keshi. Another leader. The Big Boss was at home in central midfield as he would be as centre-back. He and Chukwu would not have been an ideal partnership at CB hence my moving him into midfield where he will form a double pivot with

Sunday Oliseh: Oliseh made his debut in 1993 and held his role till the end of AFCON 2002. He was the one who redefined the role for the Super Eagles after Westerhof had tried Austin Eguavoen and Emeka Ezeugo without much success in the role. Oliseh had it all in that role.

Austin Okocha takes the nominal role of being in the hole behind the two strikers. It was straight battle between Okocha and Henry Nwosu, in the end I plumped for JJ because he was pure magic and in tight situations he could be counted upon to produce a rabbit out of a hat.

Segun Odegbami: Nigeria’s first football superstar and the best player as Nigeria won the AFCON on home soil in 1980 would make any team of all time for anyone who saw him play. I had written about Odegbami in this article

Rashidi Yekini: Nigeria’s all-time leading goalscorer. Goalsfather needs little introduction as without him it would have been extremely difficult to qualify for our first world cup in 1994. He was the top scorer as we won the AFCON in Tunisia in 1994 and was Nigeria’s first African Footballer of the year in 1993.

The team will be coached by Clemens Westerhof. Here is an extensive interview with the former Super Eagles manager

With the team and formation I decided to go with, I have had to leave out Finidi George, Humphrey Edobor, Adokiye Amiesimaka, Emma Amuneke, Ben Iroha, Austin Eguavoen, Henry Nwosu, Patrick Ekeji and many many more. I have chosen a team to play.

Haruna Ilerika – he spoke to us here too , Thompson Usiyan I was too young to have watched them. Usiyan interview

Please feel free to let me know your thoughts.
I remember that we went through this exercise.

Interesting that he chose 3-4-3 and chose Westerhoff when there's no history of Westerhoff playing that system. The team should be 4-4-2.

Even with his 3-4-3 formation. As a wing-back, was VicMo better than Babachampagneyaro? Or even Iroha?
Chief Justice was a better left winger than Amuneke.

Finidi deserves to be on the list before VicMo.
Finidi was a two-way player. He started off as a defender before transitioning to a winger.

There's NO single aspect of VicMo's game that he is better than Finidi. None.
4-4-2 With Amodu as Coach.

1. Enyeama
2. Okpalla
3. Yisa Sofoluwe
4. Muda Lawal
5. Christian Chukwu
6. Stephen Keshi
7. Segun Odegbami
8. Mudashiru Lawal
9. Rashidi Yekini
10. JJ Okocha
11. Adokiye Amiesimaka

2 Mudas in a team of 11.

I guess what they are saying is true. Too many smokers here. Some already being blanked and not seeing clearly. :taunt: :taunt: :taunt: :taunt: :taunt: :taunt:

Abeg na yoke i dey yoke ooo :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

Seriously though if you must play Yekini in a 4-4-2 formation then Amokachi must be his foil. Playing Yekini without Amokachi in a 4-4-2 is like having a sword without its scaffold as they say.
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But I will vex una some more and add Mikel. :taunt:

1. Enyeama
2. Okpalla
3. Yisa Sofoluwe
4. Mudashiru Lawal
5. Christian Chukwu
6. Stephen Keshi
7. Segun Odegbami
8. Mikel Obi
9. Rashidi Yekini
10. JJ Okocha
11. Adokiye Amiesimaka
THERE WAS A COUNTRY...

...can't cry more than the bereaved!

Well done is better than well said!!!
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txj wrote:Enyeama over Okalla?

too many weed smokers here....I warned about legalizing pot...
Txj, what's your own line up?
THERE WAS A COUNTRY...

...can't cry more than the bereaved!

Well done is better than well said!!!
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My problem with people who add Mikel to Nigeria’s best XI is what position they are putting him in. Most people choose JJ as the 10 but put Mikel in a midfield position and also choose 2 wingers...so that implies that Mikel is the DM...BUT...when did Mikel ever play DM for Nigeria? Which game? We cannot import Chelsea’s system and say this works for Nigeria. I never thought Chelsea’s style would work for Nigeria and we never really tried it. I for one could not choose Mikel as a DM over Oliseh, Ndidi...even Mutiu

The truth is that Mikel can’t make it into a Nigeria XI. He just can’t. No one would choose him over JJ, and our fondness for the 4-4-2 means his only slot is as DM...a position he never played for Nigeria. As in Never. In a 4-3-3, you could potentially make the argument for Mikel as the central midfielder, but that throws the entire team out of balance. In a 4-3-3, I wouldn’t be choosing people like Finidi and Odegbami. I’d be going more for the Amokachis and Amunekes (and maybe Kanu) of this world to partner a Rashidi Yekini
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Kanu still not on the list?
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Enyeama,
Yisa Sofoluwe, Keshi, CCC, Babayaro
Mikel, JJ Oliseh
Finidi,Yekini, Amunike

Best SE players hands down....
I will make Keshi Captain
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Based on the players that I watched;

--------Enyeaama

-Nwanu --West---Keshi----Babayaro

Finidi----Ndidi---*Okocha--Ikpeba

---------Kanu ---Osihmen-----
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So many names comes to mind.

Christian Madu
Henry Nwosu
Ademola Adesina
Bright Omokaro
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ANC wrote:
deanotito wrote:
1naija wrote:Victor moses is one of the best players to ever play for Nigeria. I put him on the same level as Finidi and Amuneke (before he got injured).

LOL...he’s not even as good as Tijani Babangida...though a tad bit better than Ikpeba was as a winger.

:shock: Tijani who? :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:


Ikpeba > Victor Moses >>>>>> Tijani.

Ikpeba by the way was being played out of position, he's stated preferred position is supporting striker.
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danfo driver wrote:
ANC wrote:
deanotito wrote:
1naija wrote:Victor moses is one of the best players to ever play for Nigeria. I put him on the same level as Finidi and Amuneke (before he got injured).

LOL...he’s not even as good as Tijani Babangida...though a tad bit better than Ikpeba was as a winger.

:shock: Tijani who? :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:


Ikpeba > Victor Moses >>>>>> Tijani.

Ikpeba by the way was being played out of position, he's stated preferred position is supporting striker.
I forgot how little people on Cybereagles know about football. See this one, Tufia!

tijani = ikedia = musa
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