Re: AFCON 2021 MOVED UP TO JANUARY!
Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 12:01 am
It should be every four years
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I agree. We can't keep bowing to their wishes. The fans want a biennial competitionpajimoh wrote:The biennial competition is good enough. The 4 year gap will not develop our football. We don't play that much friendly as the European or South Americans.
Inactivity will not be good for African teams and rankings.
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I totally agree but we must sort out the quality of our organisation as well, Cameroon had ample time to organise their drainage in time for the next Afcon but they didn’t even think about it despite the fact the last Afcon was taken off them as hosts, they made CAF look indecisive in their decision as they shouldn’t of changed it to the summer so early anyway!Caf also announced the last tournament was to change from 16 to 24 during the last qualifying campaign giving the weak hosts short notice to fix up.aruako1 wrote:I agree. We can't keep bowing to their wishes. The fans want a biennial competitionpajimoh wrote:The biennial competition is good enough. The 4 year gap will not develop our football. We don't play that much friendly as the European or South Americans.
Inactivity will not be good for African teams and rankings.
Just my own kobo
I absolutely agree, there’s been no legacy and nations like Cameroon need a lot of time to prepare even if you give them an extra two years (as they were given) they still can’t get simple things like drainage sorted out!Bigpokey24 wrote:To be honest 4 years will make the tournament a lot me interesting...the 2 years thing hasn't done jack , money wise, ,fans, infrastructure etc....and to me moving the tournament to January sucks
Didn’t CAF claim they where about to start a African Nations League?pajimoh wrote:The biennial competition is good enough. The 4 year gap will not develop our football. We don't play that much friendly as the European or South Americans.
Inactivity will not be good for African teams and rankings.
Just my own kobo
Even if the drainage was great it makes no sense to host the Nations Cup in torrential rainsEaglezbeak wrote:I totally agree but we must sort out the quality of our organisation as well, Cameroon had ample time to organise their drainage in time for the next Afcon but they didn’t even think about it despite the fact the last Afcon was taken off them as hosts, they made CAF look indecisive in their decision as they shouldn’t of changed it to the summer so early anyway!Caf also announced the last tournament was to change from 16 to 24 during the last qualifying campaign giving the weak hosts short notice to fix up.aruako1 wrote:I agree. We can't keep bowing to their wishes. The fans want a biennial competitionpajimoh wrote:The biennial competition is good enough. The 4 year gap will not develop our football. We don't play that much friendly as the European or South Americans.
Inactivity will not be good for African teams and rankings.
Just my own kobo
Because CAF seems disorganised and indecisive FIFA just don’t respect them hence their decision to host a 24 team World Club Cup a few weeks before the start of the Afcon, FIFA probably know that CAF are not exactly the most efficient or prepared federation out there so they’ll find it easy to point out their faults making it look as if CAF can’t evolve with out external advice!
Some Africans don’t believe in innovation, even Tanzania have a national stadium with a roof that opens and closes, if they need help put the Chinese to use they are not hanging around for nothing!So you want this to carry on for the next 50 years and carry on making excuses about not learning how to deal with your own natural environment, Africans need pioneers and need to make simple changes and think a little you get what you pay for!01bakana wrote:some of you have been in obodo oyibo for too long, smh, drainage and African rain. God help anyone who wants to play football in a tropical thunder storm.
Why must Africa keep doing things just for the benefit of foreigners? How innovative or appropriate do you think it is for some of the poorest nations in the world to spend billions of dollars on stadiums with retractable roofs when 90% of their population will continue to starve to death, all for the convenience and pleasure of white massa Let’s use our heads for onceEaglezbeak wrote:Some Africans don’t believe in innovation, even Tanzania have a national stadium with a roof that opens and closes, if they need help put the Chinese to use they are not hanging around for nothing!So you want this to carry on for the next 50 years and carry on making excuses about not learning how to deal with your own natural environment, Africans need pioneers and need to make simple changes and think a little you get what you pay for!01bakana wrote:some of you have been in obodo oyibo for too long, smh, drainage and African rain. God help anyone who wants to play football in a tropical thunder storm.
Hosting tournaments is a chance to leave a legacy, why carry on building cheap stadiums that are left for goats to graze in when you can have a long term home for sport?It’s not as if these useless governments invest in their people’s well being anyway so if the people need something to clap about and take their minds off the outright no nonsense they witness daily why not?
How about not hosting anything until you learn to look after your people and teach them how to build their nation to their specifications?Since Cameroon are hosting then why not do it to the best of their ability?When this tournament is over what will be the legacy?If 90% of the population are starving that explains why there will be empty stadia once again and it actually backs the reason to play these tournaments every 4 years since the nations involved are just not prepared to do it biannually,I’m just responding to whatever you’re opinion is as I don’t know what CAF will do eventually and like I’ve said Africans don’t seem to have a direction and you’ve stated the majority of them are starving!TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:Why must Africa keep doing things just for the benefit of foreigners? How innovative or appropriate do you think it is for some of the poorest nations in the world to spend billions of dollars on stadiums with retractable roofs when 90% of their population will continue to starve to death, all for the convenience and pleasure of white massa Let’s use our heads for onceEaglezbeak wrote:Some Africans don’t believe in innovation, even Tanzania have a national stadium with a roof that opens and closes, if they need help put the Chinese to use they are not hanging around for nothing!So you want this to carry on for the next 50 years and carry on making excuses about not learning how to deal with your own natural environment, Africans need pioneers and need to make simple changes and think a little you get what you pay for!01bakana wrote:some of you have been in obodo oyibo for too long, smh, drainage and African rain. God help anyone who wants to play football in a tropical thunder storm.
Hosting tournaments is a chance to leave a legacy, why carry on building cheap stadiums that are left for goats to graze in when you can have a long term home for sport?It’s not as if these useless governments invest in their people’s well being anyway so if the people need something to clap about and take their minds off the outright no nonsense they witness daily why not?
Cheers.
TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:Why must Africa keep doing things just for the benefit of foreigners? How innovative or appropriate do you think it is for some of the poorest nations in the world to spend billions of dollars on stadiums with retractable roofs when 90% of their population will continue to starve to death, all for the convenience and pleasure of white massa Let’s use our heads for onceEaglezbeak wrote:Some Africans don’t believe in innovation, even Tanzania have a national stadium with a roof that opens and closes, if they need help put the Chinese to use they are not hanging around for nothing!So you want this to carry on for the next 50 years and carry on making excuses about not learning how to deal with your own natural environment, Africans need pioneers and need to make simple changes and think a little you get what you pay for!01bakana wrote:some of you have been in obodo oyibo for too long, smh, drainage and African rain. God help anyone who wants to play football in a tropical thunder storm.
Hosting tournaments is a chance to leave a legacy, why carry on building cheap stadiums that are left for goats to graze in when you can have a long term home for sport?It’s not as if these useless governments invest in their people’s well being anyway so if the people need something to clap about and take their minds off the outright no nonsense they witness daily why not?
Cheers.
What do you mean? Why should we inconvenience our white Massas? Havent you heard about "rain ball?" please please please... our players will manage.aruako1 wrote:Even if the drainage was great it makes no sense to host the Nations Cup in torrential rainsEaglezbeak wrote:I totally agree but we must sort out the quality of our organisation as well, Cameroon had ample time to organise their drainage in time for the next Afcon but they didn’t even think about it despite the fact the last Afcon was taken off them as hosts, they made CAF look indecisive in their decision as they shouldn’t of changed it to the summer so early anyway!Caf also announced the last tournament was to change from 16 to 24 during the last qualifying campaign giving the weak hosts short notice to fix up.aruako1 wrote:I agree. We can't keep bowing to their wishes. The fans want a biennial competitionpajimoh wrote:The biennial competition is good enough. The 4 year gap will not develop our football. We don't play that much friendly as the European or South Americans.
Inactivity will not be good for African teams and rankings.
Just my own kobo
Because CAF seems disorganised and indecisive FIFA just don’t respect them hence their decision to host a 24 team World Club Cup a few weeks before the start of the Afcon, FIFA probably know that CAF are not exactly the most efficient or prepared federation out there so they’ll find it easy to point out their faults making it look as if CAF can’t evolve with out external advice!
And some Africans have their priorities screw upEaglezbeak wrote: Some Africans don’t believe in innovation,
Thats good for them! We are more interested in jobs, good roads, security, education, agriculture ... who "retractale roof" epp?even Tanzania have a national stadium with a roof that opens and closes,
You can put the Chinese to use in your own house. We have enough Africa contractors who are begging for jobs.if they need help put the Chinese to use
So you want hunger, poor security, bad roads, poor education to carry on for the next 50 years?o you want this to carry on for the next 50 years
An African need pioneers and need to make drastic changes to education, agriculture, security, roads, and think a little-- you get what you pay for.Africans need pioneers and need to make simple changes and think a little you get what you pay for!
Hosting tournaments does not create long-term economic development, as CAF and FIFA steals all the money from the tournaments.Hosting tournaments is a chance to leave a legacy,
why carry on building cheap stadiums that are left for goats to graze in when you can have a long term home for sport?[/quote
Because our Money is better used improving the lives of our citizenry and not to entertain you.
Perhaps they will if people like you are not more interested in frivolous and silly things.]It’s not as if these useless governments invest in their people’s well being anyway
so if the people need something to clap about and take their minds off the outright nonsense they witness daily why not?
We are not interested in that infrastructure! We are interested in bridges, railways, roads, dams etc etc. Go to Nigeria and majority of the infrastructure was built in the 60s/70s. Na life be that?txj wrote:
How can building infrastructure be to the benefit of foreigners? I don't understand the logic.
We are not interested in playing football in rain, winter, snow, frozen pitches or wet pitches. If you want to play in that condition, you can do it in your backyard! is it by force?? If oyibo wants to play in frozen pitches, good for them! Must we do what they do?If football can be played in the winter, snow and frozen pitches and all, we really have no excuse...
You need to read where I said maybe they shouldn’t host these tournaments!danfo driver wrote:And some Africans have their priorities screw upEaglezbeak wrote: Some Africans don’t believe in innovation,
Thats good for them! We are more interested in jobs, good roads, security, education, agriculture ... who "retractale roof" epp?even Tanzania have a national stadium with a roof that opens and closes,
You can put the Chinese to use in your own house. We have enough Africa contractors who are begging for jobs.if they need help put the Chinese to use
SSo you want hunger, poor security, bad roads, poor education to carry on for the next 50 years?o you want this to carry on for the next 50 years
An African need pioneers and need to make drastic changes to education, agriculture, security, roads, and think a little-- you get what you pay for.Africans need pioneers and need to make simple changes and think a little you get what you pay for!
Hosting tournaments does not create long-term economic development, as CAF and FIFA steals all the money from the tournaments.Hosting tournaments is a chance to leave a legacy,
why carry on building cheap stadiums that are left for goats to graze in when you can have a long term home for sport?[/quote
Because our Money is better used improving the lives of our citizenry and not to entertain you.
Perhaps they will if people like you are not more interested in frivolous and silly things.]It’s not as if these useless governments invest in their people’s well being anyway
so if the people need something to clap about and take their minds off the outright nonsense they witness daily why not?
You can sit in your room and be clapping, while the rest of us are on the ground building a better Africa.
You really need me to spell it out for you? OK. The type of infrastructure you’re talking about, if built, will be built only to accommodate foreigners who don’t want the CAN taking place in January. It is not to our advantage in any way to build stadiums with retractable roofs when we can’t afford to feed our population so yes, such infrastructure would be solely for the benefit of foreignerstxj wrote:TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:Why must Africa keep doing things just for the benefit of foreigners? How innovative or appropriate do you think it is for some of the poorest nations in the world to spend billions of dollars on stadiums with retractable roofs when 90% of their population will continue to starve to death, all for the convenience and pleasure of white massa Let’s use our heads for onceEaglezbeak wrote:Some Africans don’t believe in innovation, even Tanzania have a national stadium with a roof that opens and closes, if they need help put the Chinese to use they are not hanging around for nothing!So you want this to carry on for the next 50 years and carry on making excuses about not learning how to deal with your own natural environment, Africans need pioneers and need to make simple changes and think a little you get what you pay for!01bakana wrote:some of you have been in obodo oyibo for too long, smh, drainage and African rain. God help anyone who wants to play football in a tropical thunder storm.
Hosting tournaments is a chance to leave a legacy, why carry on building cheap stadiums that are left for goats to graze in when you can have a long term home for sport?It’s not as if these useless governments invest in their people’s well being anyway so if the people need something to clap about and take their minds off the outright no nonsense they witness daily why not?
Cheers.
How can building infrastructure be to the benefit of foreigners? I don't understand the logic.
If football can be played in the winter, snow and frozen pitches and all, we really have no excuse...
I take it then that it is those foreigners who will use the infrastructure and own it? They will travel from all over Europe to use this infrastructure?TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:You really need me to spell it out for you? OK. The type of infrastructure you’re talking about, if built, will be built only to accommodate foreigners who don’t want the CAN taking place in January. It is not to our advantage in any way to build stadiums with retractable roofs when we can’t afford to feed our population so yes, such infrastructure would be solely for the benefit of foreignerstxj wrote:TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:Why must Africa keep doing things just for the benefit of foreigners? How innovative or appropriate do you think it is for some of the poorest nations in the world to spend billions of dollars on stadiums with retractable roofs when 90% of their population will continue to starve to death, all for the convenience and pleasure of white massa Let’s use our heads for onceEaglezbeak wrote:Some Africans don’t believe in innovation, even Tanzania have a national stadium with a roof that opens and closes, if they need help put the Chinese to use they are not hanging around for nothing!So you want this to carry on for the next 50 years and carry on making excuses about not learning how to deal with your own natural environment, Africans need pioneers and need to make simple changes and think a little you get what you pay for!01bakana wrote:some of you have been in obodo oyibo for too long, smh, drainage and African rain. God help anyone who wants to play football in a tropical thunder storm.
Hosting tournaments is a chance to leave a legacy, why carry on building cheap stadiums that are left for goats to graze in when you can have a long term home for sport?It’s not as if these useless governments invest in their people’s well being anyway so if the people need something to clap about and take their minds off the outright no nonsense they witness daily why not?
Cheers.
How can building infrastructure be to the benefit of foreigners? I don't understand the logic.
If football can be played in the winter, snow and frozen pitches and all, we really have no excuse...
Cheers.
African Presidents using national funds to fly abroad for medical treatment after neglecting their own nations health facilities, government officials buying private jets to spend their nations funds abroad,your governments buy houses abroad and are sending their wives and children abroad etc.......but you are against them building a practical stadium on their own soil that costs nothing compared to what they’ve pillaged and spent abroad why?TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:You really need me to spell it out for you? OK. The type of infrastructure you’re talking about, if built, will be built only to accommodate foreigners who don’t want the CAN taking place in January. It is not to our advantage in any way to build stadiums with retractable roofs when we can’t afford to feed our population so yes, such infrastructure would be solely for the benefit of foreignerstxj wrote:TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:Why must Africa keep doing things just for the benefit of foreigners? How innovative or appropriate do you think it is for some of the poorest nations in the world to spend billions of dollars on stadiums with retractable roofs when 90% of their population will continue to starve to death, all for the convenience and pleasure of white massa Let’s use our heads for onceEaglezbeak wrote:Some Africans don’t believe in innovation, even Tanzania have a national stadium with a roof that opens and closes, if they need help put the Chinese to use they are not hanging around for nothing!So you want this to carry on for the next 50 years and carry on making excuses about not learning how to deal with your own natural environment, Africans need pioneers and need to make simple changes and think a little you get what you pay for!01bakana wrote:some of you have been in obodo oyibo for too long, smh, drainage and African rain. God help anyone who wants to play football in a tropical thunder storm.
Hosting tournaments is a chance to leave a legacy, why carry on building cheap stadiums that are left for goats to graze in when you can have a long term home for sport?It’s not as if these useless governments invest in their people’s well being anyway so if the people need something to clap about and take their minds off the outright no nonsense they witness daily why not?
Cheers.
How can building infrastructure be to the benefit of foreigners? I don't understand the logic.
If football can be played in the winter, snow and frozen pitches and all, we really have no excuse...
Cheers.