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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:10 pm 
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According to various reports online, Manchester United striker, Odion Ighalo is considering making a U turn on his international retirement from the SE.
According to Ighalo, he's been constantly talking to the SE coach, Gerhnot Rohr and NFF President Pinnick. He claimed the long distance between China and Nigeria, and recovery time was one of the main reasons why he quit the SE. Now that he's in the UK, it will be more convenient for him to report for international duty.
What do CEs think?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:15 pm 
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He can get behind Osimehn and sit on the bench. No way should this guy even dream of starting for SE. No way.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:18 pm 
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vancity eagle wrote:
He can get behind Osimehn and sit on the bench. No way should this guy even dream of starting for SE. No way.

I agree, he can't keep up with the pace the SE play at now. He can be an experienced sub, coming off the bench to hold the ball in tight games.

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vancity eagle wrote:
He can get behind Osimehn and sit on the bench. No way should this guy even dream of starting for SE. No way.


He should stay retired,his return could destabilize the team’s progress by talking time from Osihmen, nacho and Dessers.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:33 pm 
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He has done well for Nigeria. It is a good thing to be able to walk away on good terms. Most players are forced out on bad terms.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:37 pm 
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No, please stay away. Too much baggage. Ighalo can be scoring every single goal for the team and people will still be complaining bitterly here about his inclusion.

Time to focus on new players like Osimhen and Cyriel Dessers if he makes the cut.

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I welcome him....great job NFF..we need high profile players. Too many SE strikers play in trash leagues

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If Ighalo can come to camp and prove himself better than Iheanacho and Dessers then I'm all for it.

My only potential problem is Rohrs insistence on sticking with older more established players despite them being inferior, out of loyalty. I feel Rohr may do that with Ighalo if he comes back.


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I'm ok with Ighalo coming back as long he is in form and the coach feels like he has more to offer than one of the younger ones. Ighalo is also a very disciplined player and will be a great influence for the younger players in camp. He will probably not start ahead of Osimhen. Rohr started younger players ahead of Balogun and Mikel. He will not start Ighalo if the younger options are better.

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If Ighalo can come to camp and prove himself better than Iheanacho and Dessers then I'm all for it.

My only potential problem is Rohrs insistence on sticking with older more established players despite them being inferior, out of loyalty. I feel Rohr may do that with Ighalo if he comes back.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:30 am 
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As if you guys don't know Rohr, if Ighalo comes back, he starts come rain, come shine ! The only issue here is Ighalo just doesn't fit the present eagles style of play, just too slow!...And let's be honest Osimhen is an all round better player with more potential.


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His form at Man United will decide. He is playing with his real age or close to his real age. He can still deliver.

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The SE play with pace upfront since AFCON 2019 and Ighalo doesn't have the pace to keep up with the fast attack like Osimhen.
Rewind back to AFCON in Egypt and see how often Musa will burst with pace and put the ball into the box with no one there as Ighalo is lagging behind and can't keep up.
My first choice sub for Osimhen would be Musa, as he is more effective for Nigeria as a striker rather than a winger because of his final ball.
If Ighalo returns to the SE, he should be used in the same way Manchester United use him I.e. bring him on to use his experience to hold the ball in tight games.

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How can anyone criticise the return of the reigning Afcon top scorer (both in qualification and tournament) but say nothing about the pointless inclusion of Musa?

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Dammy wrote:
The SE play with pace upfront since AFCON 2019 and Ighalo doesn't have the pace to keep up with the fast attack like Osimhen.
Rewind back to AFCON in Egypt and see how often Musa will burst with pace and put the ball into the box with no one there as Ighalo is lagging behind and can't keep up.
My first choice sub for Osimhen would be Musa, as he is more effective for Nigeria as a striker rather than a winger because of his final ball.
If Ighalo returns to the SE, he should be used in the same way Manchester United use him I.e. bring him on to use his experience to hold the ball in tight games.

What was Musa’s goal and assist record in the 2019 Afcon including qualifiers?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:50 am 
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Odion Ighalo is in better form than Musa as of today.

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Purity wrote:
Odion Ighalo is in better form than Musa as of today.

Absolutely his inclusion would be practical as he has proven he can still play at the highest level and still has the hunger.

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Eaglezbeak wrote:
Dammy wrote:
The SE play with pace upfront since AFCON 2019 and Ighalo doesn't have the pace to keep up with the fast attack like Osimhen.
Rewind back to AFCON in Egypt and see how often Musa will burst with pace and put the ball into the box with no one there as Ighalo is lagging behind and can't keep up.
My first choice sub for Osimhen would be Musa, as he is more effective for Nigeria as a striker rather than a winger because of his final ball.
If Ighalo returns to the SE, he should be used in the same way Manchester United use him I.e. bring him on to use his experience to hold the ball in tight games.

What was Musa’s goal and assist record in the 2019 Afcon including qualifiers?

My point is that the SE play with a lot of pace upfront and even the best defences can be undone and unsettled by pace. Look back at the recent matches against Ukraine and Lesotho and see how many chances were created by the pace of the SE.
Imagine a scenario where a tiring Osimhen is replaced by an equally pacy Musa against a tiring defence, the SE will teams with pace, something Ighalo doesn't have.
Musa is not effective for Nigeria in the wings and has proven to be better while playing from centre. His 4 world cup goals are not a fluke!

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gochino wrote:
As if you guys don't know Rohr, if Ighalo comes back, he starts come rain, come shine ! The only issue here is Ighalo just doesn't fit the present eagles style of play, just too slow!...And let's be honest Osimhen is an all round better player with more potential.
Oh really?
So why did he not start v Argentina in the WC? :idea:

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Dammy wrote:
Eaglezbeak wrote:
Dammy wrote:
The SE play with pace upfront since AFCON 2019 and Ighalo doesn't have the pace to keep up with the fast attack like Osimhen.
Rewind back to AFCON in Egypt and see how often Musa will burst with pace and put the ball into the box with no one there as Ighalo is lagging behind and can't keep up.
My first choice sub for Osimhen would be Musa, as he is more effective for Nigeria as a striker rather than a winger because of his final ball.
If Ighalo returns to the SE, he should be used in the same way Manchester United use him I.e. bring him on to use his experience to hold the ball in tight games.

What was Musa’s goal and assist record in the 2019 Afcon including qualifiers?

My point is that the SE play with a lot of pace upfront and even the best defences can be undone and unsettled by pace. Look back at the recent matches against Ukraine and Lesotho and see how many chances were created by the pace of the SE.
Imagine a scenario where a tiring Osimhen is replaced by an equally pacy Musa against a tiring defence, the SE will teams with pace, something Ighalo doesn't have.
Musa is not effective for Nigeria in the wings and has proven to be better while playing from centre. His 4 world cup goals are not a fluke!
I'd like to know how pacey Dessers is.
Quick transition is one thing I can agree is part of 'the Nigerian game'.
We could technically be the 'quickest' team in the world, and as long as we add accurate passing and clinical finishing, that will be a deadly cocktail of attributes.

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Dammy wrote:
The SE play with pace upfront since AFCON 2019 and Ighalo doesn't have the pace to keep up with the fast attack like Osimhen.
Rewind back to AFCON in Egypt and see how often Musa will burst with pace and put the ball into the box with no one there as Ighalo is lagging behind and can't keep up.
My first choice sub for Osimhen would be Musa, as he is more effective for Nigeria as a striker rather than a winger because of his final ball.
If Ighalo returns to the SE, he should be used in the same way Manchester United use him I.e. bring him on to use his experience to hold the ball in tight games.

He should be used the same way United uses him because the SE and United plays the same way eh..Kai see logic :rotf: the highest Afcon scorer, the only Nigerian listed among APOY, the only Nigerian currently playing for a big club , shouldn't be selected because in your head he has no pace....smh... pace vs Benin and the almighty Lesotho...ok carry on

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Damunk wrote:
Dammy wrote:
Eaglezbeak wrote:
Dammy wrote:
The SE play with pace upfront since AFCON 2019 and Ighalo doesn't have the pace to keep up with the fast attack like Osimhen.
Rewind back to AFCON in Egypt and see how often Musa will burst with pace and put the ball into the box with no one there as Ighalo is lagging behind and can't keep up.
My first choice sub for Osimhen would be Musa, as he is more effective for Nigeria as a striker rather than a winger because of his final ball.
If Ighalo returns to the SE, he should be used in the same way Manchester United use him I.e. bring him on to use his experience to hold the ball in tight games.

What was Musa’s goal and assist record in the 2019 Afcon including qualifiers?

My point is that the SE play with a lot of pace upfront and even the best defences can be undone and unsettled by pace. Look back at the recent matches against Ukraine and Lesotho and see how many chances were created by the pace of the SE.
Imagine a scenario where a tiring Osimhen is replaced by an equally pacy Musa against a tiring defence, the SE will teams with pace, something Ighalo doesn't have.
Musa is not effective for Nigeria in the wings and has proven to be better while playing from centre. His 4 world cup goals are not a fluke!
I'd like to know how pacey Dessers is.
Quick transition is one thing I can agree is part of 'the Nigerian game'.
We could technically be the 'quickest' team in the world, and as long as we add accurate passing and clinical finishing, that will be a deadly cocktail of attributes.

We definitely have one of the quickest attacks in world football we should play to our strengths.
I believe that the likes of Kingsley Michael and Alhassan Yusuf can add quick accurate passes to our forwards with Ndidi mopping up behind.

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Bigpokey24 wrote:
Dammy wrote:
The SE play with pace upfront since AFCON 2019 and Ighalo doesn't have the pace to keep up with the fast attack like Osimhen.
Rewind back to AFCON in Egypt and see how often Musa will burst with pace and put the ball into the box with no one there as Ighalo is lagging behind and can't keep up.
My first choice sub for Osimhen would be Musa, as he is more effective for Nigeria as a striker rather than a winger because of his final ball.
If Ighalo returns to the SE, he should be used in the same way Manchester United use him I.e. bring him on to use his experience to hold the ball in tight games.

He should be used the same way United uses him because the SE and United plays the same way eh..Kai see logic :rotf: the highest Afcon scorer, the only Nigerian listed among APOY, the only Nigerian currently playing for a big club , shouldn't be selected because in your head he has no pace....smh... pace vs Benin and the almighty Lesotho...ok carry on

BP, in 1994, we had an European silver boot winner, Richard Owubokiri with 30 goals for Boavista, who was left out because his style didn't fit the SE under Westerhoff.
So it's nothing new if Ighalo doesn't fit the pacy game the SE are playing now despite his pedigree.

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In my view, Ighalo is making a mistake because if the coaches are fair then he more likely will be a bench player behind Osimhen if and when he returns. Osimhen makes us far more deadly. Sure, Ighalo has his strengths including drawing fouls and holding up the ball when we throw up very few in attack but Osimhen is far more versatile and has devastating pace. If he accepts a bench role and being used as a change up guy, then okay.

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