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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:36 pm 
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Guess we have returned to the days of fighting for shirt. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Does the SE have Gray, Mahrez or Albrighton on our team or players of their caliber?


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:58 pm 
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Well, let's see if he follows with action. Good thing is at least they will have a good sense of what exists rather than blaming lack of data or a manufactured claim of lack of worthy talent.



Chief, it is not just his campaign.

There are many facets of nation-building. One of which is to support the primary sport most Naijarians play. A sport majority play at home than at 'the abroad'.

Sustainable development of talent is still best done in Naijaria before you now create a market for them.

It amuses me when people who caught breaks throughout their lives snicker at opportunities extended to people who were not as fortunate.

You have to be able to show players that you can be scouted regardless of where you ply your trade and that includes Naijaria.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 3:05 pm 
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Omo this move sounds like a man must wack move. The NFF must improve the standard through the right channels, first - Get Naija clubs competing in African championship competitions and advance into the later stages. They can't graduate into the national team by right. Majority of the players in Europe have fought their way off the bench in far more competitive leagues than Naija's leagues so it's a case of putting the cart before the horse. This move will backfire badly.

This is not to say Rohr should ignore the local league but I don't believe he must watch every game. Last time Rohr watched a local game I believe he had valuable documents stolen. I doubt the sincerity of this move in so many ways.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 3:06 pm 
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I know better now with the persistent campaign for home based players by the same people who eulogised Keshi because he pandered to their whims!
BTW, I have it on good authority that this story is bullshit and Rohr has no intention of throwing the camp open for home based players.
So the purveyors should try something else!

Was Keshi under Pressure or he did it for money :mrgreen: That´s what we need to know. Thanks!


Keshi was under tremendous pressure. He was under pressure that was tied directly to the release of funds to do his job. That is how the NFF gets coaches.

Even Westerhof wasn't immune to the purse-string blackmail until he got direct access to the VP and he sorta was able to have a freer hand... note, not a free hand, but a freer hand.

Remember Keshi saying there were people working against the team...

Then Oliseh said the same... even that they were trying to kill him. He wisely left the job for them.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 3:25 pm 
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It doesn't matter what Keshi or Amodu did, or which homebased "gems" were unearthed in the past.

We are in a completely new era. We have never in our history had the current depth in quality players covering almost every position.

We are at a point where the likes of Ejuke who was a top player in Holland cannot even get an invite, a player like Dennis who is courted by top clubs can barely get a look in.

We could have a situation where Bazee, Lookman, Dennis, Ejuke all will not make the team. These players would have been guaranteed locks for any past squad years ago.

In striking position, it is likely Iheanacho will not be good enough, we have Osimehn, Dessers, Sadiq who is being courted by top clubs, we have Maja, we have even Musa who can be deployed up top.

We have so much depth in midfield that key players of the recent past like Etebo will be mostly confined to the bench. Up and comers like Alhassan Yusuf, Kingsley Michael, new additions Aribo and Ejaria.

Defence we are stacked too.

So where exactly is the room for homebased players ? There is no room.

Nigeria has thousands of players playing abroad in better leagues. Why on earth would we look to local leagues.

Even Brazil and Argentina who actually have very good domestic leagues, how many players do they chose from there ?

How many players do Morocco, Algeria chose from their local leagues ?

Abeg all this talk is just nonsense.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 4:22 pm 
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It doesn't matter what Keshi or Amodu did, or which homebased "gems" were unearthed in the past.

We are in a completely new era. We have never in our history had the current depth in quality players covering almost every position.

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We heard that before Amodu and before Keshi but both coaches proved otherwise. We are hearing it again. Fact is that the production of players in Nigeria has not stopped and is unlikely to stop in foreseeable future.


We are at a point where the likes of Ejuke who was a top player in Holland cannot even get an invite, a player like Dennis who is courted by top clubs can barely get a look in.

We could have a situation where Bazee, Lookman, Dennis, Ejuke all will not make the team. These players would have been guaranteed locks for any past squad years ago.

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Not really. Nothing has changed. This is an era where a division III player is still called up, is is not? It is possible that the very Division III player can go on and Starr for Nigeria in this ERA. This is simply a process of opportunity. Who has it, and who does not? There is no objective criteria here or has there ever been one.


In striking position, it is likely Iheanacho will not be good enough, we have Osimehn, Dessers, Sadiq who is being courted by top clubs, we have Maja, we have even Musa who can be deployed up top.

We have so much depth in midfield that key players of the recent past like Etebo will be mostly confined to the bench. Up and comers like Alhassan Yusuf, Kingsley Michael, new additions Aribo and Ejaria.

Defence we are stacked too.

So where exactly is the room for homebased players ? There is no room.

Nigeria has thousands of players playing abroad in better leagues. Why on earth would we look to local leagues.

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Because invitation is not issued to leagues but to individual players.

Even Brazil and Argentina who actually have very good domestic leagues, how many players do they chose from there ?

How many players do Morocco, Algeria chose from their local leagues ?

Abeg all this talk is just nonsense.
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Okay, so we have to look to Algeria before making our decision? Okay, let us just hope that the all powerful team that you project can easily dispose of the likes of Uganda and Kenya and easily win the AFCON. Here, I am not even talking abut the World Cup. The test is overwhelming just the African opposition. That will be the test and not simply about loading the team with Europe-born players.

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